Hell is a fairy tale

Luke 1:37. . ."For with God nothing will be impossible". This one statement would seem to contradict quite a *lot* of fossilized christian beliefs, wouldn't it?

That is not the doctrine of the scriptures and it does not agree with the teachings of the church fathers. You are a heretic.

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The ones long before the Catholic Church was even thought up. That would include the Apostles, and several generations of their predecessors, long before 325 AD when the council of Trent created a centralized body, or Christianity was even legal.

Well..name them..and find the quotes where they specifically mentioned hell as a place of eternal torture.

Bet you cant.

"Mr. Aldridge! Are you considering the question or are you just. . .dead?"

I'm sorry to tell you this, but Hell is a real place. It is a place of COMPLETE separation from God. It is the opposite of everything God is. God is love, so Hell is hate. God is joy, so Hell is misery. God is peace, so Hell is chaos. I cannot count the number of scriptures that make it clear to us that Hell is real. Jesus said it would be better to cut off your hand than go there.

While that may be scary, we don't have to be afraid. Hell was such an awful place, that God sent Jesus to die for our sins. Jesus paid the price for our sins so that we would never have to go there. All you have to do is accept Him.

Last Edited by Dease on 06/03/2012 12:20 PM

How about Jesus Christ...remember Him? He taught more on Hell, and the threat of eternal torment to unrepentant mankind than any of the Church Fathers. That is where their doctrine originated, with Jesus Christ Himself.

Have you considered "THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH?
Why did our loving Father allow The Law of SIN AND DEATH?
Is the Old Nature the nature of Satan himself?
The Blood of Christ is the most potent weapon in all creation!
The mark of the beast is the Old Nature!
Only The Blood Of Jesus Christ can cleanse a soul of the old nature!
THIS IN A NUTSHELL IS WHY A MAN MUST BE BORN AGAIN!

Revelation 20: 7 - 10

7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

2 Peter 3:8


But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Are you certain there are a thousand years?
Is it possible the thousand years are actually the three days Christ was in hades, after all Christ did redeem multitudes from hades, which meant He was in eternity....and He came also to the future to redeem us in our time.
My Bible tells me that Satan is already destroyed!

No, there's no such state. Psalm 139 says God is even in "hell" (sheol), and Revelation 14 says those in the lake of fire will be in the presence of the Lamb. There's no separation - that's a popular myth.


And there's quite a bit more to it than just accepting Him. Repentance and self-death are absolutely vital.

I don't believe in fairytales and no one wants to go to Hell, we've made the wrong decision and it's easy to see.

Nope, He warned them of a maggot-infested landfill. If your precious doctrine of eternal revenge originated with Jesus, why did God wait so ridiculously long to bother informing mankind about it? In the 3 or 4 thousand years between Adam & Eve and Jesus, where does God announce that sinners go to a realm of endless burning? I've asked this question several times, but no one will step up and solve the dilemma: where in the OT does God plainly spell it out? He didn't mention Hell to A&E, Cain, Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc. and that covers at least 2,000 years into man's history.

If your beloved torture chamber is so real, why did God keep it a secret for so long? And why did the heathen peoples (whom Israel was commanded to *avoid*) have all sorts of stories and beliefs of afterlife damnation? How did the Baal and Ashtar worshipers have this vital "truth" which God apparently withheld from His own people?

WTF?

I've got one for you...Why did God wait until Moses to reveal His name? From Adam to Moses was a few thousand years, and if salvation is in the name of the Lord, why did God wait so long to announce it. It was the first thing on Moses mind when he confronted the burning bush?

Here is another one...Why did God wait until Jesus time to send the Messiah? Why did God go several hundred years without a prophet in Israel to save them?

Here is what I have found in my study..."But in the fullness of time..." Revelation of truth is progressive, and it only comes in the fulness of time. Through the oral tradition, the Old testament saints went into the heart of the earth to a dimensional prison called Paradise. It is not really a prison of sorts but a holding area, and Hell, a principality, is the gatekeeper of this dimensional prison.

But located in the same area of the earth, is another prison of fire and of torment, also in "Hell" or what was understood in ancient times as the underworld. The Old Testament saints understood that the underworld was the place where souls were held until judgment. Why can't you?

The old testament sheol was never a fiery underworld. It was simply known as "the grave", and everyone went there, not just the wicked. At the end of Genesis 37, when Jacob's sons told him that Joseph was dead, he said "For I will go down into sheol unto my son mourning". This wasn't Hell he was referring to.

Throughout the old testament, God always urged the prophets to plainly warn people of their predicament, lest blood be on their own hands for not speaking up. . .yet He Himself appears to have neglected for ages and ages to alert His favored people of the *worst* possible fate imaginable. Maybe He wanted them to be surprised when they landed on the grill down there?

God gave Moses volumes of detailed instructions and directives, including info on how to handle menstruation. Yet He neglected to mention one word about any kind of afterlife, particularly one involving endless burning torture. Obviously, we can only conclude that God was more concerned that the Israelites were wiping their butts properly than He was with alerting them to an eternal fate that no sane person would conceive of wishing upon anyone.

Like I said, it remains *the* biggest idol in the house, because christians don't believe Jesus actually saves sinners.

Hell and Heaven are a state of mind . . .

BTW, here's what else comes "in the fullness of time":

"That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all [things] in Christ"