Real DOOM!?! Nibiru, Planet X, Nemesis, Asteriods!?! Please Help!!! Could this Explain ALOT!?!

im no astrophysicist but i think it something like, light would curve or bend or something and there would be a dealy that we could pick up.

Two things. Firstly, space is really, really big. Earth is a very small target. So I'd tend to doubt the likelyhood of such an occurrence.

Second, such an object would have effects on other objects. Until GOTO telescopes worldwide fail to accurately track things in the heavens, this demonstrably has not occurred, so I am confident there are no invisible heavenly objects messing with our predicted motions.

Hope those help.

Another brainwashed Zetard knowing nothing about astronomy but tidbits that somehow support Nancy's fear mongering.

Lear about various types of telescopes: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The name "telescope" covers a wide range of instruments. Most detect electromagnetic radiation.. /snip/... Telescopes may be classified by the wavelengths of light they detect:

- X-ray telescopes, using shorter wavelengths than ultraviolet light
- Ultraviolet telescopes, using shorter wavelengths than visible light
- Optical telescopes, using visible light
- Infrared telescopes, using longer wavelengths than visible light
- Submillimetre telescopes, using longer wavelengths than infrared light

Oh,wait til the universe burps and speeds up..every atom will be reconfigured...is your last name brown?

If I wasn't clear enough before: even if a physical size of the white dwarf star is relatively small, its electromagnetic signature is huge. It would be impossible NOT to detect it if it would be near our solar system.

Okay?

On the 27th of this month 2 asteriods were found that are 23 meters and 8 meters across, they passed by Earth at .1 Ld and .05 LD, on the 28th and the 29th, 1 and 2 days later with our great telescopes. This is not unusual, alot of times we don't see them until they zip past earth. My point was that what if they weighed as much as a piece of a white dwarf, they would effect earth, and why is this not possible. That sure would explain all the correlations with certain asteriods and earthquakes that pass by earth all the time. How did you get that I agree with Nancy (Zetas) out of this??? Please open your mind...or tell me why this is not possible. White dwarfs and red giants exsist, and they do explode.I don't think I want to be around one if hit. [link to spaceweather.com] The bottom of the page shows the 2 asteriods I mentioned above.

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Okay, So when a red giant,goes super nova, and explodes, are you saying that it just disintegrates into nothing and disappears? The hubble telescopes show something totally different.Wouldn't this be gas and the core? Every picture of a super nova that I have seen show stuff shooting out for millions of light years. Why couldn't pieces end up orbiting our sun? Or even create our kuiper belt, or our moon, from hitting another body in the solar system, as far as that goes.Plus from the NASA site, they are supposedly made up of carbon, so how big of a electromagnetic signature would something the size of a 600 ton baseball have, a billion or two years after nuclear fusion has stopped? Let alone a 6 ton marble? What if something the size of a basketball killed off the dinosaurs?

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Did your telescope work after the earths axis shifted after the last 2 big earthquakes? Or did it recalibrate, just like every GPS unit on the planet?

This gets into the asteriod/earthquake correlation; Thread: AMAZING new discovery... earthquakes influenced by asteroids!

You are correct I do not know everything, and I have never claimed too. I was asking if it was possible. I thought thats how new ideas were born, throwing shit at the wall, to see what sticks.I didn't know we had everything in space figured out already.Good thing you know it all or we might be in trouble. I thought that the mainstream news has been running articles about a possible new discovery of a new planet in or around our solar system. I believe the irregular orbit of Neptune and the comets coming out of the kuiper belt that shouldn't be coming from there,unless there is a object pushing or pulling them out of orbit and sending them into the inner solar system has NASA stumped.But since you know it all, theres no reason to think outside the box. Can you look through your telescope and find me a baseball or marble? I don't think NASA can, or they can and are not telling us. Maybe the magnetic fluff that the solar system is going thru has stopped you from thinking. Sure seems like something strange is going on with this planet.

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Wow, tough crowd, getting all the one stars anyone could want. Maybe they are pieces of a red giant that exploded and are very heavy though.LOL

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Assuming this is a serious question and you are not a troll:


This is not the way stars develop: star -> red giant -> white dwarf -> black dwarf.



Yes, it would: a lot of gas but no dense material like iron or stony chunks.



Quite easy: Something, that weighs millions, billions or trillions of lbs would affect the orbits of all planets in a big scale. That this is not the case is shown by moon and solar eclipses calculated decades ago or by the upcoming Venus transit.



No, there is a minimum mass for a white dwarf (~ 0.25 M-Sun) and thus a minimum size. A white dwarf the size of a baseball or even a big asteroid is not possible.
Besides, a white dwarf at 0.25 M-Sun would be easy detectable: X-ray, UV, visible, IR and gravitational influence.



See above.



Yes.



No - they just cool down until 0° Kelvin (black dwarf). Since this process takes longer than the universe til now exists, there are no white dwarfs cooler than ~ 4000 K.



A white dwarf does not go supernova and explode - see above.



Who said this?



The nebula you see is expanding gas, not debris.



Because there is no nebula / supernova close to us.



The kuiper belt is a remnant from the formation of our solar system - nothing from outside.



The inner core of a white dwarf is indeed made mostly of carbon, but in a state, that radiates a lot of radiaton in different wavelength from x-rays to far infrared - not to mention the gravitational effects.
And as mentioned above: a basball or marble like white dwarf is not possible.



Not all GoTo telescops are GPS aided telescopes. Indeed most of them are not - and most owners never updated the firmware. And still they work properly.
But make the calculation: The axis tilted by some inches - how many milliarcseconds are this.
BTW: The 9.0 quake, that produced the tsunami in 2004 tilted the axis by ~1.6 inch. The 8.6 quake in March 2005 in the same region tilted it by ~1.2 inch - but in the opposite direction. Over the years the over all movement is negligible.



Even if Truthwalker thinks so - there is no correlation between earthquakes and asteroids. It's within the statistics.
And his orbit calculations of past events are way of because he uses the 2-body-model instead of the Horizon app.



There are sources like wikipedia where you expand your kowledge. Even if you doubt this sources - they give you basic ideas how things work.



No.



No, scientists don't have everything in space figured out already. But the theories they have, fit best with what they observe. New theories are always welcome - but they must also fit.



It's not a discovery - it's just a theory. And its not new, it's old news in new clothes: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]



There are no irregularities in Neptuns orbit - they initialy calculated the mass of Neptun slightly incorrect. From satellite flybys the found the correct mass and could rule out any irregularity.



May be there is a havy object in or near the Oorts cloud one lightyear or more away.
May be during the early solar system a star passed close to the solar system. But this is long time ago.
Comets from the Oorts cloud need millions of years until the are in the inner solar system - thus these events happened millions of years ago.



No - because they can't exist - see above.



Our solar system is already in the "magnetic fluff" - since some 10,000 years.



No, nothing strange - it's just the natural variability of the nature.


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What about a piece of one, that has lost its radioactivity, from the red giant exploding, a billion years ago? A white dwarf is just the compressed core of a red giant,after nuclear fusion has stopped, A black dwarf is just a white dwarf that has cooled off Correct?So the heavy core is the same,in both, where does that core go when it explodes and goes supernova?
Okay, So when a white dwarf goes super nova, and explodes, are you saying that it just disintegrates into nothing and disappears? The hubble telescopes show something totally different. Every picture of a super nova that I have seen show stuff shooting out for millions of light years. Why couldn't pieces end up orbiting our sun? Or even created our kuiper belt, or our moon as far as that goes.Plus from the NASA site, they are supposedly made up of carbon, so how big of a electromagnetic signature would something the size of a 600 ton baseball have? Let alone a 6 ton marble? What if something the size of a basketball killed off the dinosaurs?

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Something to think about..Thanks...as scientist are having older theories replaced by new ones daily... keep up the good work O.P.
I give you 5 stars!!

Quite easy: Something, that weighs millions, billions or trillions of lbs would affect the orbits of all planets in a big scale. That this is not the case is shown by moon and solar eclipses calculated decades ago or by the upcoming Venus transit.


Could it have lets say a 3600yr to 12000yr orbit and be what the Mayans, Hopi,pyramid builders and alot of other cultures were trying to warn us about? We are just talking about a little piece of an exploding red giant. Not the entire core.

Who am I imitading?

OP your thread and theory is total BS. If ANY object with that mass existed within our solar system it's affects would have already been detected. Furthermore, if the object existed it would have already been spotted by NASA or the thousands of amateur astronomers worldwide

Stop spreading fear with your posts. I have already posted many videos here on GLP that will disprove any crazy idea that your planet x exists. You should just go back to watching your NBA and NFL and get these crazy thoughts out of your mind

There are thousands of videos just like this one showing that Neptune is being affected by something. Even the MSM have had to come out the last few weeks, along with NASA, to finally admit that it looks like something is there. I am talking about a small piece of red giant, not the whole core of a white dwarf. [link to www.youtube.com]

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Thanks for the input bud, but from everything I learned from what you explained, and where you sent me to research, I think this makes more sense now. If your still around I did a bunch of editing, please give this a quick re-read, and comment again. Just please try to keep an open mind.TY

If your speaking about the waves from the center of the universe hitting the planets- i agree with this. Once this happens the structure of everything will shift. I believe it will raise in frequency. Things will become more INTENSE- if a person is negative- their negativity will consume them. If a person is positive- their positivity will overwhelm them and those around them. So is such with everything else.

Also to everyone assuming that we as a species know everything about space- your absolutely incorrect. The only thing we KNOW for certain- is that we know Nothing for certain. This theory the OP suggested could actually become a possible event. Chances are probably slim, but even with all of our telescopes and science- that doesn't mean a damn thing...... We haven't even discovered our own ocean floors for christ sake, and you expect me to believe we have correct calculations for space and how objects in space behave? SMH!

you're one crazy bitch

Thread: Nibiru can be seen by using a red filter

There is the "Ribbon" which our solar system is working it's way through right now.

The IBEX mission set out to provide some clues as to what the ribbon is comprised of.

[link to io9.com]

Add to this mystery, we wonder why the Sun is unusually bright while the experts know that solar flares and CMEs are the real threat to our planet.

[link to www.upi.com]

Low earth orbit satellites have fallen. Non-periodic comets are shooting across our bow.

There is one thing that is constant in our universe: Things are always changing.

Right now, they are changing at an incredible rate and are defying the forecasts.

Actually everything he said made perfect sense and explained why the OP is wrong.

There's no word, now, on how the 'ribbon' of energy was made. Scientists believe that it is a result of the heliosphere interacting with the magnetic field created by the galaxy, but don't know specifics. The unexpected finding leaves people with a clearer view of what the edge of the solar system looks like, even if no one knows why it looks that way.

Oh sure they know, just don't know hot to tell sheeple and don't disturbe much their routine - field, grass, cot



[link to video.godlikeproductions.com]

Sorry, it's just too troublesome te re-read all your posts - if you have a question, feel free to ask.



Right.


When a star goes supernova, the inner core collapses and the outer gaseous hull is shed away by the explosion. The inner core is the white dwarf that just cools down (no more energy left to explode). A nice example is the Ring Nebula in Lyra.
Only under very special circumstances the inner core can also explode (mass transfer in a dubble star system from a red giant to the white dwarf). But even than only gas is expelled, nothing like pieces of iron or rock.



As mentioned above, there are no pieces of ultra-dense material.



Not into nothing - in gas atoms like gaseous iron, carbon etc. In space it is diluted very fast to a (near) vacuum.



The nebula you see consists of ionized atoms, not of solid material.



Sure they end up in our solar system - as single atoms.



No, as mentioned in my first post, the kuiper belt, Moon and also the Oorts cloud ar remnants of the formation of our solar system. Not parts coming from outside.



Yes, when a star like the Sun ends its life as a white dwarf and cools down it will be a hundred trillion carat diamond :-)



Again - I mentioned this in my first post: The minimum mass for a white dwarf is ~0.2 solar masses. This would make a body at least the size of Pluto.
Therefor white dwarfs (or parts of it) the size of a baseball or marble can not exist.



No: unstable orbits - Planet X debunked countless times before.
A stable 3600yr to 12000yr orbit is possible, but this object never would come close to the inner solar system.



Since little pieces of red giants (or white dwarfs) are gas atoms - no harm.
Of course the atoms can aggregate over millions of years - but then they are just asteroids, not super-dense objects.


This is described all very simplified - if you are interested in this matter, please look it up in wikipedia.


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scientists, astronomers, 'experts'.


four words to remember.

you don't know shit.

No doubt Sagittarius has an invisible (as is itself) effect on the whole solar system.
The dwarf galaxy\'s outsize influence stems from the assumption that although Sagittarius today is a mere fraction of the Milky Way\'s mass, it should once have rested inside a hefty cocoon of dark matter, known as a dark matter halo, some 100 billion times the mass of the sun. (Dark matter is a mysterious, theorized substance thought to account for one quarter of the universe\'s mass, some five times as much as ordinary matter provides.) Sagittarius\'s merger with the Milky Way is not a simple collision—the dwarf galaxy has followed a looping, spiraling inward orbit for the past few billion years that has drawn it repeatedly into contact with the Milky Way. As Sagittarius approached the Milky Way, passed through its disk, and circled back again, the dark halo of Sagittarius would have slammed into the plane of the Milky Way twice, knocking the disk askew and stirring up the formation of its spiral arms.

\"We have this dramatic perturbation to the entire disk—it\'s coming straight down onto it in the last two impacts at least,\" Purcell says of the circuitous path around and through the Milky Way that Sagittarius took in the simulations. \"You can\'t really get away from causing a spiral structure if you have an impact from a galaxy that\'s as massive as we think Sagittarius was.\"

wait till something baseball sized comes through at speed we can not see or comprehend and puncture through and destroy our planet... better yet, a rough planet.... and those speeds... is it possible? everything is possible, do not fear.You'll only be fearing yourself.

If they had the mass of a white dwarf we would have seen their gravitational effects long before they reached us. That's what we've been trying to tell you. Those asteroids go unnoticed until they're very close to us because they're small AND low mass, they don't detectably affect anything unless they hit it. A white dwarf mass object would perturb the positions of the planets, and no, GOTO scopes like mine do not have GPS and do not get online updates, in fact the memory chips can only be altered by physically removing them. Furthermore, amateurs like measure the positions of solar system objects astrometrically, completely independent of the telescope's own GOTO capabilities and memory. Those readings show that there is no massive object anywhere near the inner solar system, and certainly no white dwarf.