Watching YOU: Orwells Darkest Dreams have FINALLY been REALIZED...and no one cares.

I have yet to see a real good discussion about THE PRESIDENT, where someone did not bring up Clinton.

And, it's pretty much always the side supporting Bush.

I, on the other hand, don't trust any of those politicians.

Show me their actions, and by those shall I know them.

I know this current president by now.

And he does NOT fall on the Saint side.

He DOES fall on the tyrant side.

Peace.
David.

The only reason I bring clinton up is because you think this all takes place during the time Bush has been in office and either you don't know better or you are lying.

I'm not saying Clinton was better or worse than Bush. Both can walk off a cliff for all I care.

All I am refuting is the fact that you think Bush is an evil genius that has taken a paradise on earth to hell in a handbasket. You are wrong about 95% of your assertions.

The status of our country has been going this direction for many years and decades. I believe the whole political system went downhill after Eisenhower. Maybe before, but I haven't researched that far back yet.

Should clinton be brought up in this debate? Yes when you give credit to Bush for things Clinton did. Yes, when you spout things that happened during his presidency. If I said GW Bush ordered the Bomb on Hiroshima, would you not correct me?

Is Bush a great president? No. Has he done things you don't like. Probably. Does that mean he has done all of the lies you claim for him to have done? No.

I have to go now, but loved debating with all of you. Hope your evening will be enjoyable.

Oh 2212 and 16550 are both me. GLP keeps changing my ID back and forth.

#2212:
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"The status of our country has been going this direction for many years and decades."
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Only if you consider that our beloved government has been infiltrated by those who would seek to disrupt peace and liberty.

It has just be ever-so-obvious in this administration that all is not well in Halls of Washington. People are finally begining to see that voting for John Democrat or Jim Republican will change nothing other than the face that is SUPPOSED to represent them in Congress.

I, for one, am starting to adore Bush. Without his ineptitude I am all but certain that a NWO would be well on its way to being fully implemented. Thanks to him and his overzealous cronies they exposed themselves and have crippled the effort - if not have sunken the entire ship itself.

Thank you Bush! Your uncaring demeanor and lack of restraint have sucessfully undermined everything those NWO-ites have been working and waiting so patiently for.

Now get the hell out.

I am FULLY aware that this Country has had many who are not seeking the greater good. Well, they thought they were, but look at where we are now.

I have never claimed that these problems started with Bush.

They are now, however, at the point where you can read the bood "1984", and see some ASTOUNDING similarities.

Every day, something comes out.

Show your papers, citizen.

Well, I have travelled the world enough to know that we don't have as many enemies as they claim we do.

And any that we do have, we are pissing them off more now, and all their relatives and friends are now joining the fight.

War is not Peace.

Pain is not Pleasure.

Outsourcing jobs is not good for the economy.

You are not a terrorist if you desire a return to Constitutional Democracy.

And I am a patriot.
Patriots are the dilligent.

As Thomas Jefferson put it, that is the price we pay for Democracy.

Eternal Vigalence.

And somehow, we took our eye off the ball.

And now, we must reclaim it.

Peace.
David.

Bump.

Comparing Bush to Clinton, repubs to dems, is like teenagers comparing dick sizes. Grow to fuck up, asshole.

"The only reason I bring clinton up is because you think this all takes place during the time Bush has been in office and either you don't know better or you are lying."

show me where i have ever said that all has taken place during only bush's terms?

"I'm not saying Clinton was better or worse than Bush. Both can walk off a cliff for all I care."

i don't see why any time bush and his presidency is talked of...always...clinton is brought up. i don't know why you felt the need to bring up clinton...?

"All I am refuting is the fact that you think Bush is an evil genius that has taken a paradise on earth to hell in a handbasket. You are wrong about 95% of your assertions."

ummmm...when have i ever said that bush is an evil genius? or that this is a paradise on earth that's going to hell in a handbasket? you have your opinion and i'll have mine.


"The status of our country has been going this direction for many years and decades. I believe the whole political system went downhill after Eisenhower. Maybe before, but I haven't researched that far back yet."

well, the USA was going after iraq's oil since the 1920's so that was long before eisenhower...keep researching...the USA was warned by presidents before eisenhower...

"Should clinton be brought up in this debate? Yes when you give credit to Bush for things Clinton did. Yes, when you spout things that happened during his presidency. If I said GW Bush ordered the Bomb on Hiroshima, would you not correct me?"

guess you don't know anything about the clinton and steel as you didn't post about it at all...come to think of it...which of my questions to you did you answer?

"Is Bush a great president? No. Has he done things you don't like. Probably. Does that mean he has done all of the lies you claim for him to have done? No."

hope you have a good night/day/whatever time it is your way...

All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.
~George Orwell




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