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Foveras (OP) User ID: 18547850 Greece 07/06/2012 03:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Foveras (OP) User ID: 18547850 Greece 07/06/2012 03:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a scenario that I talked about many months before. At the time here in Greece it was a conspiracy theory. Now it is coming closer and closer. I am think of alternatives for my family just in case. Here is a link about the pension funds here in Greece. It is estimated that without the government help they will soon collapse. [link to translate.google.gr] Love responsibility, keep saying, I alone will save the world If it gets lost, myself only is responsible N.Kazantzakis |
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Foveras (OP) User ID: 18547850 Greece 07/06/2012 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even with the rise of poverty in Greece, it is still a lot better off than most of the world. Greece has been living a pretty darn good life without paying for it for a long time. I can't phantom all the complaining coming from Greeks. I don't know Greece's specific suicide numbers but I'm sure it pales to suicide rate in East Asia. Instead of grumbling about austerity measures, Greeks need to rise up and send all your corrupt politicians and bankers to jail but then again you would rather fight among yourselves or drink coffee at your cafe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18355406 Ok then if thinks are so great here, come and move here. You will have great beaches, sun and the rest. No thinks are not good and is a situation is not reversible. The mankind should try so that all the developing country's to become like the developed. Not the opposite. Cause then it will be a day that it will be your turn Love responsibility, keep saying, I alone will save the world If it gets lost, myself only is responsible N.Kazantzakis |
Foveras (OP) User ID: 18547850 Greece 07/06/2012 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to translate.google.gr] Love responsibility, keep saying, I alone will save the world If it gets lost, myself only is responsible N.Kazantzakis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18723832 United States 07/06/2012 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well it all started in Greece (the basis of our modern day structure) I guess its only right that it all starts to crumble with Greece. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6220641 Yep. I am still not certain that WW3 will start in the Middle East. I am starting to think that it might be a worldwide revolution. A civil war in most countries in the world, as the people of the world try to take on the New World Order. I know that we are on the brink or civil war here in the US. Our population is divided straight down the middle, and the rightwings and the leftwings hate each other more and more every day, not to mention that most of us dislike Obama. The president knows its coming, that is why he did the NDAA and is putting drones inh the air. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18355406 France 07/06/2012 04:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even with the rise of poverty in Greece, it is still a lot better off than most of the world. Greece has been living a pretty darn good life without paying for it for a long time. I can't phantom all the complaining coming from Greeks. I don't know Greece's specific suicide numbers but I'm sure it pales to suicide rate in East Asia. Instead of grumbling about austerity measures, Greeks need to rise up and send all your corrupt politicians and bankers to jail but then again you would rather fight among yourselves or drink coffee at your cafe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18355406 Ok then if thinks are so great here, come and move here. You will have great beaches, sun and the rest. No thinks are not good and is a situation is not reversible. The mankind should try so that all the developing country's to become like the developed. Not the opposite. Cause then it will be a day that it will be your turn Maybe when the world can afford to, they will really try to help developing countries. Imagine that a boat has sunk and everyone is trying to prevent drowning to death. When every country is struggling to survive, they can't have someone piggybacking on a drowning victim. They will both drown. It is better that one of them gets to the shore first and then throw in a life line. Also, I somewhat agree with what Lagarde said, <Making clear that the IMF has no plans to relent on its austerity requirements for the country, Lagarde said she was aware that many Greeks were struggling to access services like healthcare because of the country’s economic crisis, but believed people in other countries deserved more sympathy. “I think more of the little kids from a school in a little village in Niger who get teaching two hours a day, sharing one chair for three of them, and who are very keen to get an education,”> Let's make it clear that Greece is not the only country struggling in the world. Also, the terms set by EU is pretty good compared to the Austerity measures forced by IMF during the 1990's financial crisis. So, maybe it's time to stop complaining and to start striving to recover. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18355406 France 07/06/2012 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, it's funny how OP wants developed nations to prevent Greece, a developed nation, from falling to a developing status but the articles OP linked show that Greece is a selfish nationalistic country who does not want to help other countries. <The announcement of the Golden Dawn says "came the big moment to show what we deserve and how we are united," and urges its members to contact their area of Nice because, as noted, "for obvious security reasons, the guidelines will not be given public ". The announcement is insulting reference to "illegal immigrants from Pakistan, Albania, Africa and other debris," which-as mentioned-"piled in our country in collaboration with the local absolute ethnoprodotes SYRIZA ANTARSYA, anarchist groups and other 'progressive' " > |
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Foveras (OP) User ID: 18547850 Greece 07/06/2012 04:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, it's funny how OP wants developed nations to prevent Greece, a developed nation, from falling to a developing status but the articles OP linked show that Greece is a selfish nationalistic country who does not want to help other countries. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18355406 <The announcement of the Golden Dawn says "came the big moment to show what we deserve and how we are united," and urges its members to contact their area of Nice because, as noted, "for obvious security reasons, the guidelines will not be given public ". The announcement is insulting reference to "illegal immigrants from Pakistan, Albania, Africa and other debris," which-as mentioned-"piled in our country in collaboration with the local absolute ethnoprodotes SYRIZA ANTARSYA, anarchist groups and other 'progressive' " > When poverty comes people become desperate. You have to understand that this situation is contagious and will spread to all the south Europe. It is a matter of wrong policies that lead to this problem. Greece is the scape goat cause due to serious state problems it was easy to be hit. I'm not saying that people here did thinks correct. But the same systemic problems exist in most developed country's. They are just hidden better, but eventually will come out. Anyway I think if we see a Greek civil war it will spread to other country's and that wont be good with the combination of Syria and Arabic spring. Love responsibility, keep saying, I alone will save the world If it gets lost, myself only is responsible N.Kazantzakis |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9979056 Germany 07/06/2012 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it´s called RE- VO- LU - TION dummies! Once the hunt for those belonging to the ruling class will be unleashed in the streets and on the shores of athens,and the "golden dawn" comes that will take EVERYTHING away from capitalist exploiters the alienated propagandists of austerity will realize they just pushed the cradle of democracy into the hands of communists and nationalists. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 788508 Spain 07/06/2012 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even with the rise of poverty in Greece, it is still a lot better off than most of the world. Greece has been living a pretty darn good life without paying for it for a long time. I can't phantom all the complaining coming from Greeks. I don't know Greece's specific suicide numbers but I'm sure it pales to suicide rate in East Asia. Instead of grumbling about austerity measures, Greeks need to rise up and send all your corrupt politicians and bankers to jail but then again you would rather fight among yourselves or drink coffee at your cafe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18355406 Your time of fun is coming: .."French bank Italian Exposure: As Italy pops with outrageous funding yields (just like Greece), France will be forced to bailout its banks once again, leaving the socialist country facing the dilemma of potentially having to ask for a bailout itself. As you may know from my previous writings, the French banking system is bigger than France itself so a true bailout cannot practically come from within..." [link to boombustblog.com] |
Marxist User ID: 13374925 New Zealand 07/06/2012 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even with the rise of poverty in Greece, it is still a lot better off than most of the world. Greece has been living a pretty darn good life without paying for it for a long time. I can't phantom all the complaining coming from Greeks. I don't know Greece's specific suicide numbers but I'm sure it pales to suicide rate in East Asia. Instead of grumbling about austerity measures, Greeks need to rise up and send all your corrupt politicians and bankers to jail but then again you would rather fight among yourselves or drink coffee at your cafe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18355406 And you think this will change anything in capitalism? It's like trying to use a brothel as a church during the weekends. Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains! |
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Marxist User ID: 13374925 New Zealand 07/06/2012 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even with the rise of poverty in Greece, it is still a lot better off than most of the world. Greece has been living a pretty darn good life without paying for it for a long time. I can't phantom all the complaining coming from Greeks. I don't know Greece's specific suicide numbers but I'm sure it pales to suicide rate in East Asia. Instead of grumbling about austerity measures, Greeks need to rise up and send all your corrupt politicians and bankers to jail but then again you would rather fight among yourselves or drink coffee at your cafe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18355406 Your time of fun is coming: .."French bank Italian Exposure: As Italy pops with outrageous funding yields (just like Greece), France will be forced to bailout its banks once again, leaving the socialist country facing the dilemma of potentially having to ask for a bailout itself. As you may know from my previous writings, the French banking system is bigger than France itself so a true bailout cannot practically come from within..." [link to boombustblog.com] France is no socialist country. Its a socialised capitalist country. Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19218446 Croatia 07/06/2012 05:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how right you are my friend.. before we know it, we indeed shall all be in the same boat. This^^^ I feel sorry for you and yours, my Greek friend. Life sucks on many levels, now and always. But I wonder that on political level, your country even in these dark days don't give up on Macedonia, and won't let this tinny country to use it's only name - Republic of Macedonia?! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19114383 Serbia 07/06/2012 05:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neither a revolution, nor a civil war. It will be, if something else doesn't happen before that, a massacre. People are just not ready to fight the psychopaths. Normal people lack emotionless, cold calculation, lack of empathy, and computer-like precision and efficiency of psychopathic mind. In order to fight a psychopath, one has to understand a psychopath, to think like a psychopath, to detach oneself from everything but the goal to be achieved - extermination of the other side. Psychopaths are engineered to exterminate humanity, and that means that the only solution to the problem is extermination of the psychopaths. But people identify themselves only with the visible. The flag, the country, the color of the uniform. Can you imagine what would happen if, within a single military unit, a psychopathic officer was recognized by a common soldier and, instead of shooting at the 'enemy combatants', that soldier pointed his gun at the psychopath that was giving him the orders and blew the head of that engineered son-of-a-bitch? Chaos? The word doesn't even come close to describing what would happen if people suddenly turned the table on their masters and started systematically killing one psychopath after another. Massacre of the people by the psychopaths is a much more likely outcome. "Call each thing by its right name." |
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Foveras (OP) User ID: 18547850 Greece 07/06/2012 05:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how right you are my friend.. before we know it, we indeed shall all be in the same boat. This^^^ I feel sorry for you and yours, my Greek friend. Life sucks on many levels, now and always. But I wonder that on political level, your country even in these dark days don't give up on Macedonia, and won't let this tinny country to use it's only name - Republic of Macedonia?! No politician would dare to do that. It is easier to bankrupt the country than to do this. It is a matter of pride especially at the places of the Greek Macedonia. Love responsibility, keep saying, I alone will save the world If it gets lost, myself only is responsible N.Kazantzakis |
Marxist User ID: 13374925 New Zealand 07/06/2012 05:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neither a revolution, nor a civil war. It will be, if something else doesn't happen before that, a massacre. People are just not ready to fight the psychopaths. Normal people lack emotionless, cold calculation, lack of empathy, and computer-like precision and efficiency of psychopathic mind. In order to fight a psychopath, one has to understand a psychopath, to think like a psychopath, to detach oneself from everything but the goal to be achieved - extermination of the other side. Psychopaths are engineered to exterminate humanity, and that means that the only solution to the problem is extermination of the psychopaths. But people identify themselves only with the visible. The flag, the country, the color of the uniform. Can you imagine what would happen if, within a single military unit, a psychopathic officer was recognized by a common soldier and, instead of shooting at the 'enemy combatants', that soldier pointed his gun at the psychopath that was giving him the orders and blew the head of that engineered son-of-a-bitch? Chaos? The word doesn't even come close to describing what would happen if people suddenly turned the table on their masters and started systematically killing one psychopath after another. Massacre of the people by the psychopaths is a much more likely outcome. "Call each thing by its right name." These people aren't psychopaths. They're ordinary people like you or I. They are our neighbours, friends and family. To confront their privilege, we will need to understand the nature of the system. Calling them psychopaths does nothing other than make bogeymen of them. Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains! |