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I just left the Church (as an organisation) and I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.

 
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I just left the Church (as an organisation) and I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
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I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


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Also, god is no-body. It's The spark that enflames your consciousness and the impulse that let's the tree grow. But even more than that, I think it is the great administrator that let's the galaxys rotate and the planets align. In sacred geometric order. Why else would the earth be in the goldocks zone. Why else would the sun have the exact same size as the moon on our sky-panorama. Someone had to lay out the rules and design the fractal concepts of plant-growth and all other living entities.
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I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
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Congrats.... good for you... now you can walk on your own legs, make up your own mind about the world. Soo.... Welcome to the other side =)
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Congrats.... good for you... now you can walk on your own legs, make up your own mind about the world. Soo.... Welcome to the other side =)
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Thanks dude! I guess i've been on the other side quite some time now. But now it's official. I don't serve them anymore.
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Congrats.... good for you... now you can walk on your own legs, make up your own mind about the world. Soo.... Welcome to the other side =)
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Thanks dude! I guess i've been on the other side quite some time now. But now it's official. I don't serve them anymore.
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Congratulation, now you are a WISE one.hf
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Congrats.... good for you... now you can walk on your own legs, make up your own mind about the world. Soo.... Welcome to the other side =)
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Thanks dude! I guess i've been on the other side quite some time now. But now it's official. I don't serve them anymore.
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Congratulation, now you are a WISE one.hf
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Arent't those the guys that were tortured to death in the dark ages? :)
Yaaay!
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You're a Woman , ain't you ? Looks like pride got the better of you .
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I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


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hf

Grüße aus Nürnberg ;)
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You're a Woman , ain't you ? Looks like pride got the better of you .
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Nope, i am male. And a humble family father.
And this has nothing to do with pride.
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You're a Woman , ain't you ? Looks like pride got the better of you .
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Nope, i am male. And a humble family father.
And this has nothing to do with pride.
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Ok , then you can ignore my comment . Good luck in your en devours .
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Re: I just left the Church (as an organisation) and I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


churches help support communities on earth
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The Kingdom of God is within You.hf

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You're a Woman , ain't you ? Looks like pride got the better of you .
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Nope, i am male. And a humble family father.
And this has nothing to do with pride.
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Ok , then you can ignore my comment . Good luck in your en devours .
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All I'm offering is the truth Neo, nothing more.
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You're a Woman , ain't you ? Looks like pride got the better of you .
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Nope, i am male. And a humble family father.
And this has nothing to do with pride.
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Ok , then you can ignore my comment . Good luck in your en devours .
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1doh1
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Why are you hitting yourself in the face ?
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I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


churches help support communities on earth
 Quoting: Sugarelf


In the last 50 years maybe. Before that, they did more harm than good. Also the polarity between the differend belief systems is the reason for many many deaths.

And here in bavaria, we have a really high amount of pedophile priests. So please - tell me more about the good churches!
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The Kingdom of God is within You.hf

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churches serve God and Man
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That is true. But it's surrounded by lots of barb wire, Crocodiles and land mines (which have been put there by humans, of course)
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I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


churches help support communities on earth
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In the last 50 years maybe. Before that, they did more harm than good. Also the polarity between the differend belief systems is the reason for many many deaths.

And here in bavaria, we have a really high amount of pedophile priests. So please - tell me more about the good churches!
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


you are speaking of the bad

so are you claiming that all churches are 100% bad just becuase of the actions of some ??

basically, how do you justify complete elimination....
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churches serve God and Man
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And that is what they td you. Behind closed doors, it's a whole other game
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The Kingdom of God is within You.hf

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churches serve God and Man
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And that is what they td you. Behind closed doors, it's a whole other game
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


all about the First Amendment


if churches go, then the entire Bill of Rights will go along with the Second Amendment....
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I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••
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churches help support communities on earth
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In the last 50 years maybe. Before that, they did more harm than good. Also the polarity between the differend belief systems is the reason for many many deaths.

And here in bavaria, we have a really high amount of pedophile priests. So please - tell me more about the good churches!
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


you are speaking of the bad

so are you claiming that all churches are 100% bad just becuase of the actions of some ??

basically, how do you justify complete elimination....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Of course not. What I say is this: The church doesn't help the communities because they want to help, but to gain more influence over their communities... Obviously. Or why do you think the vatican invested massively in real estate over the last decades?
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churches serve God and Man
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And that is what they td you. Behind closed doors, it's a whole other game
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all about the First Amendment


if churches go, then the entire Bill of Rights will go along with the Second Amendment....
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Yeah well. They made the communities dependent on them. You just prove my point
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churches help support communities on earth
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In the last 50 years maybe. Before that, they did more harm than good. Also the polarity between the differend belief systems is the reason for many many deaths.

And here in bavaria, we have a really high amount of pedophile priests. So please - tell me more about the good churches!
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


you are speaking of the bad

so are you claiming that all churches are 100% bad just becuase of the actions of some ??

basically, how do you justify complete elimination....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Of course not. What I say is this: The church doesn't help the communities because they want to help, but to gain more influence over their communities... Obviously. Or why do you think the vatican invested massively in real estate over the last decades?
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the vatican is the Church and is not church

you seem to be speaking of specific Churches as opposed to simply churches
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In the last 50 years maybe. Before that, they did more harm than good. Also the polarity between the differend belief systems is the reason for many many deaths.

And here in bavaria, we have a really high amount of pedophile priests. So please - tell me more about the good churches!
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


you are speaking of the bad

so are you claiming that all churches are 100% bad just becuase of the actions of some ??

basically, how do you justify complete elimination....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Of course not. What I say is this: The church doesn't help the communities because they want to help, but to gain more influence over their communities... Obviously. Or why do you think the vatican invested massively in real estate over the last decades?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


the vatican is the Church and is not church

you seem to be speaking of specific Churches as opposed to simply churches
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I speak about the organisation "church".
But I have to admit, I don't know all the details about the church in the US of A.

All i can tell are my experiences with the german roman-catholic church. And believe me - they are creepy.

Also, I talk more about the spiritual matters than the material ones.
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I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


About the same here. Haven't belonged to organized religion in many years, but I'm more spiritual than when I did. BTW, why did they charge you 50 bucks?
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I speak about the organisation "church".

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which isn't one single tangible entity


the term 'church', used in the singular, is intangible
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Organized religion is totally man-made in order to control the masses - so to speak.
There is some higher power that had to have created this mess that we all live in - cosmic dust sparks stars, etc..
The ptb do not want us to know or uncover how or why things are the way they are - because I believe that They really do not know either.hiding
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