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I just left the Church (as an organisation) and I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.

 
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What a moron
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I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


About the same here. Haven't belonged to organized religion in many years, but I'm more spiritual than when I did. BTW, why did they charge you 50 bucks?
 Quoting: INK3



That I asked them, too. They couldn't give me a straight answer so someone mumbled: its custom in this state ... But i have to say, I had to pay the money to the civil registry office, not the church per se.
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Organized religion is totally man-made in order to control the masses - so to speak.

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is that bad ??
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Organized religion is totally man-made in order to control the masses - so to speak.
There is some higher power that had to have created this mess that we all live in - cosmic dust sparks stars, etc..
The ptb do not want us to know or uncover how or why things are the way they are - because I believe that They really do not know either.hiding
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You are right. But the guys who brought this institution to life directly worked for the demiurge or the bad guy.
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churches are allowed anynonmous income in the US....

basically, they do not have to account for who gives them their offerings....

that concept is a part of the basic definition of 'freedom'
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I don't get why you had to pay them . I just stopped being a Catholic when I learned the truth about the Church and became born-again of the Spirit .

In fact , it is God's desire that we leave the Whore of Babylon .

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Revelation 18:4
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I have to call it a day for now... Have to make some work on the house... Be back later.
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In fact , it is God's desire that we leave the Whore of Babylon .


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Prime Meridian


the Horizontal of Babylon....all about Sunrise and Sunset
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I have to call it a day for now... Have to make some work on the house... Be back later.
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


i hear ya....thanks for the thread -- great topic hf
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I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••






I never intend to put myself or mankind above my SAVIOUR, EVER!!


If I were part of the catholic church I would have left to, just like my mother did!!!


NO religion, just you and GOD and a real Holy King James Bible....this is all we have the truest thing I know even though I am a backslider and sinner....

I will never, not believe in my creator GOD!!!

Never forget he loves and forgives us!!!
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I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


Du kannst eine Beziehung zu Gott&dem Universum auch ohne die Kirche haben!
Die Punkte, welche dir zusagen kannst du ja weiterhin leben!

Grüße aus Ostwestfalen!
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Organized religion is totally man-made in order to control the masses - so to speak.

 Quoting: spiritnut


is that bad ??
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Maybe you want someone else telling you what to do, but I personally don't. We are NOT children any longer, and don't need someone to dictate morality. If you do, you need more help than that church can give you.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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churches are allowed anynonmous income in the US....

basically, they do not have to account for who gives them their offerings....

that concept is a part of the basic definition of 'freedom'
 Quoting: Sugarelf


But you have to ask yourself, WHY does the state give them this right when they don't give others that? I have no issue with this freedom you speak of, in fact we all should have it.

But when you consider that EVERYONE else has to play by a different set of rules than churches do, it makes you wonder just what the reason for that is. It MUST serve them a purpose of some sort to single them out above all others.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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I have lost belief in the christian concepts of god as a male patriarch and jesus as the saviour long long time ago. I don't think god wants to be worshiped as the big guy. That sounds too much like crappy human stuff of a wrecked psyche.

Since then, I replaced all that with a new belief: god is both, male and female. (S)He is the unity of those two opposites. Anything else doesn't make sense. If you think Jesus is the saviour, I got news for you: the saviour is a concept invented to keep the people inactive and dosile.

Enlightenment is the goal. And all the people hoping for a saviour are running down the cliffs because they don't even try to reach it.

As the logic conclusion, I left the roman-catholic church today. They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.

I know i will get bashed for saying this out loud, since GLP has become the mainbase for religious zealots, but I have no problem with that.

But before you bash me, keep this in mind:

I am no atheist, I still pray to the highest power: the all-creator of everything that exists. Don't you christians intend to do the same?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


friend I don't want to be rude..but ask yourself this simple question...do you believe you were artificially and genetically created by a higher being..to basically be an organic robot...or do you believe you are natural product of your parents? that will tell you the truth of whether you believe in fake hierarchal order systems or naturel bipolar existence.

Because whether we like it or not... we (and everything else in the universe were created under one constant condition...and that condition is bipolar interaction.

meaning no matter what we choose to believe or delude ourselves we will never escape the fact the we were naturally or artificially created by bipolar energy and matter....which means that even if there was a godlike singularity..it would be naturally bipolar and unstable too...the rest is delusion really to try and seperate and control the outcomes of this fundemental truth. Which ironnically (and onserveably) can never change.

so it doesn't matter what we believe ..one way or the other..if you understand what I'm saying..and luckily every gets re-used and recycled in the infinite bipolar process
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Re: I just left the Church (as an organisation) and I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
churches are allowed anynonmous income in the US....

basically, they do not have to account for who gives them their offerings....

that concept is a part of the basic definition of 'freedom'
 Quoting: Sugarelf


But you have to ask yourself, WHY does the state give them this right when they don't give others that?
 Quoting: ajk


churches are the first line of defence when famine and hungar become problems in communities
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churches are allowed anynonmous income in the US....

basically, they do not have to account for who gives them their offerings....

that concept is a part of the basic definition of 'freedom'
 Quoting: Sugarelf


But you have to ask yourself, WHY does the state give them this right when they don't give others that?
 Quoting: ajk


churches are the first line of defence when famine and hungar become problems in communities
 Quoting: Sugarelf


That isn't a good enough reason. And remember the state controls famines and shit anyway, and what food we can get, etc.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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churches are allowed anynonmous income in the US....

basically, they do not have to account for who gives them their offerings....

that concept is a part of the basic definition of 'freedom'
 Quoting: Sugarelf


But you have to ask yourself, WHY does the state give them this right when they don't give others that?
 Quoting: ajk


churches are the first line of defence when famine and hungar become problems in communities
 Quoting: Sugarelf


That isn't a good enough reason. And remember the state controls famines and shit anyway, and what food we can get, etc.
 Quoting: ajk


why isn't it ??

Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness....

the government's primary function is to protect life....and churches are the first line of defense against hungar
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i am a pastor and i guess you would consider mepretty conservative. but let me tell you the conclusion i have come to. this has taken several hard years. a church has an agenda. they cant help it and they might see it as good intentions and have nothing evil behind it, but there is an agenda. as long as a church has a building and bills to pay there is an agenda. the message of Christ is offensive to a lot of people. huge parts of that message are left out, manipulated or simply rewritten so pastors and board members dont offend to the point of losing tithes. it is what it is. the bible never once described the church as an opulent building with stained glass and a gift shop. the original church was called the ecclesia which simply means a group of people moving forward.

i do however believe that Jesus was the fulfillment of the law. not because my pastor told me so but because of the extensive research i have done. do you realize that the new test passes all criteria for what academia would consider a historic document? we have more evidence to support he NT than most stuff we teach in high school history books. however i do believe that is a heart issue and between you and God. i do believe that we are lead to worship in different ways because we are very different people. so i would never judge or disagree with you. that is intimate between you and God.

good luck in your quest. God bless.
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They even charged me 50 bucks for it... But the high feeling i have right now was totally worth it.
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


Lol! But good for you to have broken away the bars of that prison!
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the message of Christ is offensive to a lot of people.
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he defended the churches when he said: when 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, i am there
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Wish I could type this out a THOUSAND TIMES.

GOOD FOR YOU.......GOOD FOR YOU......

just picture that statement FILLING THIS SPACE.

I was also raised catholic and hated every minute of going to church every Sunday...but my mom was a divorced lady and got her 'strength' from the church......(how, I have no idea!!)

But it got her thru a lot of negative things in her life....hey, to each their own.....me? I left home at 19 and only go into a church for a wedding, nothing else. And I always tell my friends, when I do go into a church, to watch out for the bolt of lightening!! lol...

I am spiritual and not religious....DESPISE all organized religions, every one of them!!

"Do unto others'...is what my dad always taught us.....he seldom went to church..it was my older brother and mom who were 'religious'...

I go into orbit when I think of all the wealth the catholic church has, and I think the Vatican should be bombed off the face of the earth.........I better stop before my blood pressure goes sky-high!!

anyway, you get my drift!!!!

and congratulations again for leaving.......you say they CHARGED YOU $50 for leaving? I'd tell them where they could go with their damn $50........did you actually pay it??

and what would they have done if you hadn't??

anyway, you ARE MUCH BETTER OFF NOW.......

and reading your post has made my day!!!!!!

ENJOY YOUR NEW ORGANIZED-RELIGION-FREE LIFE, MY FRIEND!!!
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I stopped going at 13 years of age and haven't been back since.


Organized religion is bullshit.

I am closer to god than any of those sick freaks they got running those places.
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I stopped going at 13 years of age and haven't been back since.


Organized religion is bullshit.

I am closer to god than any of those sick freaks they got running those places.
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


many find comfort and community with organized religion and being an active member of church....

not all of them have 'sick freaks' running them....





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