>>So you see, 19.47, I don't listen to ignorant men who tell me I can lose what Christ has already accomplished for me -- I do indeed listen to the scripture and the voice of the Holy Spirit. I could reference numerous other passages as well ... and I'm sure you can cite all the passages that ones who don't understand their identity and destiny in Christ commonly use to try and perpetuate the Satanic lie that Christ's Work was insufficient and it depends on the strength of man.<<

47217:

Welcome.

I clipped your comment out because I want to be clear on something. I can see that a battle rages on these pages over whether or not Christ's work on the cross is sufficient or do we need works.

If you have seen anything I posted here I trust that you see that I am a brother in Christ and have a different spin on the issue (more based on faith , than works). However, for now, I just want to clarify if you think that *anyone* who believes that salvation can be lost is "ignorant" and "perpetuating Satan's lies" because there is no doubt in MY heart that "by grace, you are saved through faith, and that not of yourself, it is a gift of God."

Please do respond.