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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19404267 United States 07/09/2012 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | censored on queen forums Dont you people realise i just want Freddie to be respected and given his damn credit,I dont want him and his life to be portrayed as one short joke. Dont you people have any respect for him? Sacha Baron Cohen is a ham, he can only do panto type roles. Was Freddie's stage perfomance acclaimed as it was merely the result of someone akin and equal to that of Cohen a panto actor ? was his private mind that of a panto character? why does everyone think he can be treated with such casual dismissal? and contempt, that his life is so callously dismissed and its depth worthy of such an actor who has no skill and no depth, he would be fitting to someone so shallow? Is it merely because you dont see him as a real person but only as a stooge? Well if his image was so easily dismissed as to equate it portrayable by a pantomine actor why bother making a biopic about his life? As such a joke of a human being, surely is far too one dimensional to be of interest to anyone. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19404267 United States 07/09/2012 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | adam sandler played stupid roles like sbc until he played a dramatic role in punch drunk love,imho one of his best.he may surprise you. Quoting: miserkocho adam sandler always had an element of real ife intereactions eith people in his silly roles, that requires some skill at acting, even if minimal. Sacha doesnt do that. think about it and you will see, there is no attempt at any true reality in his roles. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19404267 United States 07/09/2012 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | adam sandler played stupid roles like sbc until he played a dramatic role in punch drunk love,imho one of his best.he may surprise you. Quoting: miserkocho adam sandler always had an element of real ife intereactions eith people in his silly roles, that requires some skill at acting, even if minimal. Sacha doesnt do that. think about it and you will see, there is no attempt at any true reality in his roles. No roles no attempt And therefore no practice |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19404267 United States 07/09/2012 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the ability to put a poor rating on this is the only argument aganist it's truth. Instead of being a coward, why not try and counertact my argument with a plausable defence of sacha as an credible dramatic actor? The answer is you actually cannot ,because my argument is right, and everyone knows it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16131912 Canada 07/09/2012 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its silly to care whether or not he can 'properly or respectfully' portray freddie mercury.... he is not freddie mercury, he is an actor freddie mercury was freddie mercury, and anyone who gives enough of a shit to find out about him will do so/or has already done, before a shitastic hollywood movie comes out- and in the case that they're just finding out about him through the movie, if they have any intelligence whatsoever they will seek reference in other places. this is the problem with the world you people care about the stupidest shit |
Ardhanarishvara User ID: 12662903 United Kingdom 07/09/2012 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well he's capable of maintaining at least three different characters, and portraying them as real people in front of other real people. That suggests he's a good actor, even if they are only comedy. Truth is we've never seen him in a non-comedy roll. So we just don't know how well he'll handle it. :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19404267 United States 07/09/2012 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont you people realise i just want Freddie to be respected and given his damn credit, I dont want him and his life to be portrayed as one short joke. Dont you people have any respect for him? Sacha Baron Cohen is a ham, he can only do panto type roles. Was Freddie's stage perfomance acclaimed as it was , merely the result of someone akin and equal to that of Cohen, a panto actor ? was his private mind that of a panto character? why does everyone think he can be treated with such casual dismissal? and contempt, that his life is so callously dismissed and its depth worthy of such an actor, who has no skill and no depth, he would be fitting to someone so shallow? Is it merely because you dont see him as a real person but only as a stooge? A vehicle for a clown actor? Since when do biopics so activlly and obviously seek to denegrate, and dismiss the personhood of the people they are meant to be in honour of, by having a dramatic disaster ape them? Well if his image was so easily dismissed as to equate it portrayable by a pantomine actor why bother making a biopic about his life? As such a joke of a human being, surely is far too one dimensional to be of interest to anyone. Mercury requires a masterful performance, not a disaster performer of bufoonery. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16131912 Canada 07/09/2012 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mercury requires nothing of sheeple ass fucking hollywood, his career speaks for itself... it is impossible to capture that in film. youve seen every other shitty bio film im sure, they were far from capturing the real essence of any of their main characters. get over it, get over thinkin someone wants to censor you. nobody fucking cares buddy |
Ardhanarishvara User ID: 12662903 United Kingdom 07/09/2012 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | censored on queen forums Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19404267 Dont you people realise i just want Freddie to be respected and given his damn credit, I dont want him and his life to be portrayed as one short joke. Dont you people have any respect for him? Sacha Baron Cohen is a ham, he can only do panto type roles. Was Freddie's stage perfomance acclaimed as it was , merely the result of someone akin and equal to that of Cohen, a panto actor ? was his private mind that of a panto character? why does everyone think he can be treated with such casual dismissal? and contempt, that his life is so callously dismissed and its depth worthy of such an actor, who has no skill and no depth, he would be fitting to someone so shallow? Is it merely because you dont see him as a real person but only as a stooge? A vehicle for a clown actor? Since when do biopics so activlly and obviously seek to denegrate, and dismiss the personhood of the people they are meant to be in honour of, by having a dramatic disaster ape them? Well if his image was so easily dismissed as to equate it portrayable by a pantomine actor why bother making a biopic about his life? As such a joke of a human being, surely is far too one dimensional to be of interest to anyone. Mercury requires a masterful performance, not a disaster performer of bufoonery. You don't know that he can only do "panto" roles, because you've never seen him play a serious role. His ability in serious roles is yet to be demonstrated. It's unlikely that this biopic will be a "short joke"; they tend to be respectful. All biopics tend to be a little distorted from the truth, but a freddie biopic would be interesting and SBC looks a little like him too, and is comfortable playing sexually ambiguous roles. :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19404267 United States 07/09/2012 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well he's capable of maintaining at least three different characters, and portraying them as real people in front of other real people. That suggests he's a good actor, even if they are only comedy. Quoting: Ardhanarishvara Truth is we've never seen him in a non-comedy roll. So we just don't know how well he'll handle it. such risks are not taken such chance is not part of such money the only benefit to a casting of cohen is because of an active knoweldge of his "talents" known thus far. In other words he has said he wants to do it, and there is agreement amongst those who know exactly what he has already done. that is resume, that is how it works. They agree knowing only what he has done. and let me assure you, that is all he has done- what you know they know, because there is nothing else in his whole career. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19267692 United States 07/09/2012 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it really that important? I couldn't give a crap who plays him, I have no interest in wasting an evening on that movie anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19267692 well, you needed to express you have no interest obviously, so i have done you a favour . Really? That's how things work in your mind? No wonder you're mindlessly slobbering over who's going to play Freddie Mercury. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19404267 United States 07/09/2012 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it really that important? I couldn't give a crap who plays him, I have no interest in wasting an evening on that movie anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19267692 well, you needed to express you have no interest obviously, so i have done you a favour . Really? That's how things work in your mind? No wonder you're mindlessly slobbering over who's going to play Freddie Mercury. I am making the point cohen cannot act, he cannot convince - unless he is trying overtly hard to hide by the use of the absurd., when he is still his eyes are like those of a rabbit caught in headlights he is exposed as a non actor! |
uju User ID: 19368922 China 07/09/2012 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He'll probably be great as Freddie and all this talk about being a ham and pantomime roles? that's exactly why he fits the bill. On many occasions Freddie referred to himself as a ham, "it's all pantomime" etc.. So what do you naysayers think Bohemian Rhapsody is? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19404267 United States 07/09/2012 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it really that important? I couldn't give a crap who plays him, I have no interest in wasting an evening on that movie anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19267692 well, you needed to express you have no interest obviously, so i have done you a favour . Really? That's how things work in your mind? No wonder you're mindlessly slobbering over who's going to play Freddie Mercury. Again i gave your a cause for relief of your own absurdity. You should thank me for providing these oppertunities of distraction for you, from your obvious dilemma. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19404267 United States 07/09/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He'll probably be great as Freddie and all this talk about being a ham and pantomime roles? that's exactly why he fits the bill. Quoting: uju 19368922 On many occasions Freddie referred to himself as a ham, "it's all pantomime" etc.. So what do you naysayers think Bohemian Rhapsody is? you really dengrate Freddie as a performer is you think Cohen is equal to the task of Freddies overall performance, which involves so much expression both physically , and facially emotionally expressed. The sheer wieght of his insight into physically expression of his vocals is beyond anything CAohen is capable of. And you fail to notice,Freddie had a real private life where he wasn't superman, what of cohen then? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19404267 United States 07/09/2012 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He'll probably be great as Freddie and all this talk about being a ham and pantomime roles? that's exactly why he fits the bill. Quoting: uju 19368922 On many occasions Freddie referred to himself as a ham, "it's all pantomime" etc.. So what do you naysayers think Bohemian Rhapsody is? you really denegrate Freddie as a performer if you think Cohen is equal to the task of Freddie's overall stage performance. which involves so much expression both physically ,and facially ,emotionally expressed. The sheer weight of his insight into the physical expression of his vocals is beyond anything Cohen is capable of. And you fail to notice ,Freddie had a real private life where he wasn't superman, so what of cohen then? |