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New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark

 
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New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
[link to alpo-j.asahikawa-med.ac.jp]

Mark on right image reminds me of the Wesley mark of 2009, it is that dark...
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Wesley mark is rumored to have come from a thermal vent shaft caused by LWHRU ignition...

[link to www.amazon.com]

Are we seeing another shaft appear here?
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
[link to alpo-j.asahikawa-med.ac.jp]

compare to Wesley "impact" mark....
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

Hubble shot of Wesley mark....
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Have you read the book linked? What's the gist?
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Have you read the book linked? What's the gist?
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It has a free preview if you want the gist.

Also go here for more....

[link to jabbingjupiter.yolasite.com]
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Astronomers have been remarking for several days that the disturbance in the NEB is great.

These are the darkest marks I have seen in a very long while. It indicates carbon when it is that dark, but that has to come only from extreme heating of elements inside Jupiter.
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
"... there is a large bright storm in the SEB and the NEB is...completely ripped up.
The join between NEB and EZ has some interesting dark stuff...
The EZ contains a wavy line of dark stuff passing underneath the two dark spots, would looks good at high res."

from Anthony Wesley remarking on the spots...

The darkest ones actually fall more in the EZ (Equatorial Zone)
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"... there is a large bright storm in the SEB and the NEB is...completely ripped up.
The join between NEB and EZ has some interesting dark stuff...
The EZ contains a wavy line of dark stuff passing underneath the two dark spots, would looks good at high res."

from Anthony Wesley remarking on the spots...

The darkest ones actually fall more in the EZ (Equatorial Zone)
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[link to alpo-j.asahikawa-med.ac.jp] people of G-d.htm
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Have you read the book linked? What's the gist?
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


It has a free preview if you want the gist.

Also go here for more....

[link to jabbingjupiter.yolasite.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1166283


OP

I've heard of this theory before but my question is why? Why would this be desirable?
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Reasons:

Religious manipulation (cited by Clarke and Cooper)

Slight warming effect could help with anticipated new ice age (cited by Cooper)

To find out if current star theories are correct

Extreme reason: depopulation of Earth while elite flee to bunkers. This is only possible if a Jupiter ignition is strong enough to throw some of its mass to Earth's atmosphere and disturb it strongly.

To warm up Jupiter's moon's for exploration reasons, possible far future colonization
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Have you read the book linked? What's the gist?
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


there's already a thread on the topic about which the book was written:

Thread: JUPITER IGNITION!!!!!!!
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Another minor reason: extend growing season by a couple days, growing latitudes by a couple degrees?

Decrease energy needed for lighting streets, etc.
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Have you read the book linked? What's the gist?
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


there's already a thread on the topic about which the book was written:

Thread: JUPITER IGNITION!!!!!!!
 Quoting: John Everytard


I think that is a different theory.
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Reasons:

Religious manipulation (cited by Clarke and Cooper)

Slight warming effect could help with anticipated new ice age (cited by Cooper)

To find out if current star theories are correct

Extreme reason: depopulation of Earth while elite flee to bunkers. This is only possible if a Jupiter ignition is strong enough to throw some of its mass to Earth's atmosphere and disturb it strongly.

To warm up Jupiter's moon's for exploration reasons, possible far future colonization
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1166283



Soon Jupiter will be going behind the moon, and the Angel of the Lord took me and showed me something behind the moon explodes and causes meteor chunks to come flying from behind the moon and going to earth.


Just a thought????

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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
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Here it is in color. It looks just like another Wesley scar has erupted!
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Here it is in color. It looks just like another Wesley scar has erupted!
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Antonio Lasala (254mm Newtonian) who made the image...
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
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Seen here as early as 7/7/12 by Hideo Einaga. It has gotten stronger since then.
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Have you read the book linked? What's the gist?
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


there's already a thread on the topic about which the book was written:

Thread: JUPITER IGNITION!!!!!!!
 Quoting: John Everytard


I think that is a different theory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1166283


the theory is that nuclear reactions have started on Jupiter due to the crashing of nuclear-powered satellites into the atmosphere of the planet, pushing the planet Jupiter towards becoming a star.

seems like the same theory to me...
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Have you read the book linked? What's the gist?
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


there's already a thread on the topic about which the book was written:

Thread: JUPITER IGNITION!!!!!!!
 Quoting: John Everytard


I think that is a different theory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1166283


the theory is that nuclear reactions have started on Jupiter due to the crashing of nuclear-powered satellites into the atmosphere of the planet, pushing the planet Jupiter towards becoming a star.

seems like the same theory to me...
 Quoting: John Everytard


ok
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
[link to alpo-j.asahikawa-med.ac.jp]

Seen here as early as 7/7/12 by Hideo Einaga. It has gotten stronger since then.
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Color one clarifies that it is dark in RGB also now.
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Here it is in color. It looks just like another Wesley scar has erupted!
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This one from July 8th in color is definitely stronger.
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
I'll post the pics from the 9th asap....none available yet.
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
Technical data:

Largest and darkest of several new very dark eruptions in NEB and EZ of Jupiter (with likeness to Wesley mark):

7/7/12
19.11 (UT), 3.11 (EDT)
L1:11
L2:25
L3:46
Approx. 10 degrees North lat.

Further darkening on 7/8/12
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Einaga image from the 9th of July. Resolution not that good but the mark stands out still...
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
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Mark on right image reminds me of the Wesley mark of 2009, it is that dark...
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The best resolution image on the right, that mark is MASSIVE and DEEP. That mark is easily the size of Earth!
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Best one yet, Chris Go's image clarifies it. It looks for normal, more blue. Not like a mark anymore, just a disturbance. North is up in that one, I believe.
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
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The latest infrared images from the past few days seems to indicate an deeper underlying disturbance that is hidden by the upper clouds (higher clouds). IR points it out as the very dark area in the EZ band. This is what was prominent on the very first image I posted that exposed this lower area using IR.

It's being covered by a thin layers of white clouds over it.
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Re: New Jupiter mark is very dark in NEB....almost as dark as 2009 Wesley mark
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Summary of the dark marks so far, by Rogers...
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Summary of the dark marks so far, by Rogers...
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Dark splotch labeled "14" in the lower left is the most prominent, and the one I have been primarily following.





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