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The Hero's Journey

 
Miscreant

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We create every moment and excercise choices all the time. After working with materials and substances to create objects (alchemy) for a while, one may come to understand that all one was doing was inner work all along.

This is only true for me. I believe that art is a real gateway and shamanic journey in itself.
99.999% of what affects our reality will be undetectable by our senses. Man must learn to think for himself rather than follow blindly what he has been taught.

-Buckminster Fuller
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miscreant,

what will you do now? do you feel any promptings to create in other venues, or just sit and watch the old world melt :-).
asgardhr

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Freyja-It appears that the wei wu wei movement is in full swing these days. So, I guess you will just have to paint a beautiful world for them!
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"So put your hands down my pants and I'll bet you'll feel nuts
Yes I'm Siskel, yes I'm Ebert and you're getting two thumbs up"


"So live each and every day that you may look any man in the face and tell him to go to hell...! Edgar Cayce, reading 1739-6
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why am a always the last one at the wei wu wei party?

whew


thomas....where the hell have you been!
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01/03/2006 03:33 PM
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i like the james legge version
kind grew up with it
middle path
actually means knot
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asgardhr

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I went for the Feng/English myself.

I believe that wei wu wei really means not interfering with the processes of the universe, rather than being mindless. There has been considerable Buddhist contamination of Taoism as well.
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"what will you do now? do you feel any promptings to create in other venues, or just sit and watch the old world melt :-)."

That's the million-dollar question. I have a few ideas... one is to open up an art studio for adults with 3-4 hour long sessions. They can set up their own stations (oils, easels, still lifes) and keep them there.

There's nothing like it here, but I studied with David Zuccharini in Maryland in this kind of setting and really got a lot out of it.

That would be bumping it up to the next level (teacher).
99.999% of what affects our reality will be undetectable by our senses. Man must learn to think for himself rather than follow blindly what he has been taught.

-Buckminster Fuller
asgardhr

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Field trips are a blast [and a challenge]. Sometimes the teacher took us into the streets and we had to sketch people [quickly!].
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find it very difficult to be mindless
have no problem with the the no brainer
tho
cecirdr

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Thanks for the tip asgardhr. We are planning to visit the southern Oregon coast in the spring. I'll probably take mucho more pix...I've culled my webstie WAY down from what it used to be. I think I'll probably end up with a whole gallery just for waves...oh my...the power and the form of the waves here in Oregon is amazing!

Miscreant, you've had an interesting observation about no longer feeling like doing. IMO, either way doing or *appearing* to not do is just fine...and is still doing because it is allowing...being. I know very little of my past lives, but if a spark isn't there to create *traditional* types of objects d'art, that surely doesnt' mean you're not creating. Just being "here" is certainly creative...and much more so (IMO) than most of us give credit for.

Three is no such thing as an observer, you can try to play the role of being outside the creation and watching...but it's impossible. You are watching AND acting.

Oh...and freyja, don't worry 'bout the world melting. It ain't gonna happen in my universe. Now...I can't speak for yours and which version of me you're interacting with, but this chick's got plans...big plans...some may call it "delusions of grandeur". hahahaha!

Ceci
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6. Freedom to Live
Mastery leads to freedom from the fear of death, which in turn is the freedom to live. This is sometimes referred to as living in the moment, neither anticipating the future nor regretting the past.


so here we are!
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asgardhr - here is some confirmation for you.

The original blueprint for the planet Earth was for creating and experiencing, and we will be restoring that. It was designed to be a playground and place for Source energy to experience itself.
cecirdr

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What's wei wu wei?

Ceci
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Right on 296.

And the gods will walk endless strands.
Miscreant

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"6. Freedom to Live
Mastery leads to freedom from the fear of death, which in turn is the freedom to live. This is sometimes referred to as living in the moment, neither anticipating the future nor regretting the past.


so here we are!"

chorus
99.999% of what affects our reality will be undetectable by our senses. Man must learn to think for himself rather than follow blindly what he has been taught.

-Buckminster Fuller
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Wei wu wei is: doing 'not doing'.
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ceci the master of Wei wu wei...now you have a name for what you *do*.

Allan Watts introduced me to wei wu wei....although I think tantra also covers it quite well.

..... if I ever had to pick a belief system...it would be tantra and wei we wei.
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Coooool. Interesting synchronicty is I just (several days ago) picked up an i ching set. The text to explain it is by Wu Wei. Hahahaha! I was able to google wei wu wei, but only found the name wu wei...that's why I wanted clarification.

I remember dreaming one time of being on trial. I felt the panic as I tried to expalin my case...the detail I tried to represent to the court was excruciatingly laborious. Then the feeling washed over me...I didn't have to do any of that. My story is built by my beliefs and is therefore immune to my acting. The acting represents a belief that beliefs alone do not shape the world. It represented a fundemental fear. So in the dream, I had an aha experience, sat back in my chair and relaxed. The trial went smoothly and I was "acquitted".

Ceci
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Freyja...hahahha! Yes...now I have a word for "it".

um, now.....what's wei we wei?

Ceci
asgardhr

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>>> ..... if I ever had to pick a belief system...it would be tantra and wei we wei. <<<

But since deep down you are truly a heretic and a heathen, you will never let 'em cloak you with any existing belief system!
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i do adore my heathen nature asgardhr...it is a great feeling to embrace that and be out of the *closet* so to speak with my earthy heathen ways.

free
cecirdr

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I'm actually glad I kept myself ignorant of these other belief systems. That way it's a strong event for me to discover that I've "reinvented" the wheel.

I don't have any draw to "study" this wei wu wei belief system other that to find it intriguing that me, myself, and I had a similar conclusion.

Now...need to go look up tantra.

Ceci
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osho is great for tantra IMHO.
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ceci...wei we wei is a typo! s/r wei wu wei.

lmao
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wei we wei

K&#259;n redoubled, and may be taken as representing the crash or peal of thunder; but we have seen that the attribute or virtue of the trigram is

'moving, exciting power;'
asgardhr

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Are ye talking about Thor?!

cheers
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We are like unproductive gods.
cecirdr

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rofl

Wei we wei...hahaha! I googled it and found out it was a typo. Hehehe...goes to show how little I know.

Funny thing is...as a lil kid my dad used to play a count your toes game...ya know the one. The first little piddy went to the market, the second one stayed home, etc...and the end is the last little piddy cried wee, weee, weee...all the way home.

lmao

Ceci
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That reminds me. My uncle still has my nose! Damn.
99.999% of what affects our reality will be undetectable by our senses. Man must learn to think for himself rather than follow blindly what he has been taught.

-Buckminster Fuller