Namaste...

Haha! I love you all!

What a strange and confusing world we exist on!
What a strange and confusing scenario we find ourselves in!

I understand the majority's point of view quite easily (I think?). Let me see if I got this right:

Love is everything, thus not a polarity but the fabric of existence itself. To take away love is to take away God/Source/ALL. Fear is an illusion that is the bi-product of Duality and as soon as we ascend beyond it - become all encompassing divine love.

With that said, being a former student of Buddhism I can see very easily where Kal is coming from. One of the biggest things I was taught was that there is no good and evil and that we must move beyond those choices to become enlightened. I later took this as meaning Love was ALL, and that Fear was the bi-product of choosing "good" (judging fear as wrong) and choosing "bad" (judging punishment as unfair). Recent contemplations have led me to question my above understanding.

I do not speak for Kal ( he'll most likely tell you that himself), but...

I believe his perception is that love is a polarity rather than the fabric of existence. Love will seek to eliminate Fear, Fear will defend itself by fighting back for its right to exist. Conflict will never end if the above is true (it might honestly not be, these are just musings admittedly).

I've never had the chance to speak with an enlightened Buddhist guru in person... So these are just guesses on my behalf. With that said, most "high-level" (been around for awhile) students I've spoken with conveyed to me that to eliminate (and to truly UNDERSTAND the reason behind your doing so) pleasure will eliminate pain. They paradoxically tell me that they are not recieving pleasure or pain but are also not numb to them.

:boggle:

The only way I can see this as being true is if Love is not the reason for bliss. If Fear is not the reason for pain. If it is only our PERCEPTION of it that we deem these energies as beneficial or harmful. To move beyond "gaining" love and to move beyond "losing" fear. With nothing to lose and nothing to gain we must be in perfect equilibrium - and thus, in bliss.

You're guess is as good as mine how this state of perception is achieved, most likely constant meditation and contemplation (or lackthereof).

I have very very selfish and selfless reasons for being here. I want to eliminate my own pain and after that, give the option to eliminate others' pains (honoring free will). If love is the way for me to do this, YES! If seeing past both "polarities" is the way for me to do this, YES!

I have no attachment to a particular style of thought. All I want is deliverance from this hell! To escape this constant insanity! I might be judging your (everyone's) motvies but I feel like that is the only true reason for searching in meaning beyond yourself. After all, if your're not looking to escape from pain and live in bliss you must already be there. (^_-)