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Danke OP! hf


Good post OP, can u recommend sites/literature on this topic please?



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Yes, I can. One book especially:

Not in HIS image by John Lamb Lash. One hell of an eye opener and a really well researched book about the roots of paganism, gnosticism, the purpose of the church and the origin of the gaia sophia myth.
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Great post OP! You speak the truth, here in East Texas if you even mention meditation people look at you like you have a pterodactyl on your head. Its ridiculous.
 Quoting: Everwayne 11673630


Same here in bavaria. Totally indoctrinated, brainwashed mainstream victims. It's a wonder if you make it out here with an open mind. Although the land itself is totally magic ...
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Great post!
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I agree with much of what you have to say, but just FYI, crowley was a dark magician who used initiates as puppets for dark purposes and to this still does. However, with that said, maybe without Crowley, we wouldn't be at the capstone event we are at today in such a short period of time.
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I'm well aware.
But without him, there would be no NASA, no 60's psychedelic revolution, no awareness of the Dark Brotherhood, and lots of other things fo sure. (also, no scientology, which wouldn't be a bad thing)
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


There was ALWAYS awareneSS of the black brotherhood by the white because we let them have center stage for a while because without our blessing, they simply could not operate. Their time is now over for the son of the morning has arrived. Their dark depraved tricks and back room molesting of people's souls will soon end.
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I was referring to the broad masses of people.
And I don't want to go too deep into the whole crowley subject. It has been discussed enough and we don't want to give our attention to the dark ones, do we? Maybe he wasn't a very good example for a mystic.
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History is a lie.

We are in time loop.

All the events set in motion are heading towards a single date in the future 2093.

Basically, if we qualify, we will evolve to the next stage and meet the entities involved in trapping us in the time loop.

If we don't qualify, we start back from square one - the stone age.
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You are referring to the archons, right?
I looked deeply into the subject and I must say I am not 100% sure they exist. It might be a trick by TPTB to abandon hope....although it all matches and makes sense....
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lots of truth here... next year events will start to force a change back to the old ways in many areas
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Honestly... My hope for the future is that a Big solar flare fries all the electrics and we are forced to live by the old ways...although it sounds utopian, I believe that would be best. We would once again come closer together because alone noone could survive
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Ever wondered why there is such an overwhelming resistance regarding spirituality? It is like you certainly become an outcast when you adress such topics in public. For example, try and talk to your friends about Out of Body experiences. Even if your friends experienced this phenomenon first hand - when you talk about it in a group of people, you will get ridiculed. Try it, here on GLP. The alpha-male-muscle-boys will stomp you down with one of their funny&cool insults, laugh at you and not even consider you might be right. The sad thing is, they don't realize they follow an indoctrinated pattern.

This system of ridicule has been set in place carefully at the beginning of the western civilisation by TPTB. It is essential to keep humanity trapped. And it works just fine! Although from time to time people slip through their net, the mayority stays "sheeple". We will progress, eventually. But with a fully functional spiritual system, we'd have been over the finish line long time ago.

You see, the destruction of indogenous folks all around the world happened for a reason. Instructed by the roman catholic church, the spanish conquistadores went over to south america and butchered the mayans and their likes. They burned their books or took the most important scriptures into custody where they remain until today in the hidden vatican library.

The same goes for the native europeans. The knowledge of the druids was wiped out by the roman empire. Not because they wanted their goods, but because the pagan belief system posed a threat to the supressing christian belief system.

The native american indians and their shamans... Wiped out. I never understood why they did this. Of course because their belief system was connected to the spirit world, which offered genuine first hand spiritual experience, and that could not be tolerated.

Another example is the destruction of the library of Alexandria.... How covinient for them...the cradle of information, burned... The knowledge of the mystery schools destroyed so that only a few chosen could use it against the rest of us.

The system of religion is a trap to keep us from true spiritual experiences. You don't need to work on you soul, because the saviour of your particular religion will manage it in the end. You just need to worship him.

The entheogenic plants of the world are hatef by most of the population. Why? Most of the haters never even tried them and insult the users as dirty "hippies" or "vegetables" . They can't help themselves. They didn't break free yet and just keep repeating the nefarious insults they were programmed to shout.

Fluoride, Aspartame, etc. in our water supplies and mercury in our lamps keep us dumb and numb. The fastfood culture was invented to keep us at low energy levels through a nutrition deficit so we cannot use our endocrine system, especially the pineal gland to break free from the illusion. The whole "humans-are-flesh-eaters" thing might be a gigantic hoax for all we know. Why else would there be so much hatred against vegetarianism? Look it up, here on GLP. Vegetarians are stomped into the ground, only for a personal decision. People who grow their own fruits and vegetables in the garden are now considered as criminals and codex alimentarius strongly underlines this...

The knowledge of the pineal gland has been kept out of the mainstream for too long. They knew it since Rene Descardes and possibly much longer (egypt, eye of horus). The educational system is designed to keep us ignorant and slogans like "ignorance is bliss" are randomly thrown out there so we believe this stuff.

If you only inform yourself about the spirit realms, other dimensions, things like NDE's or OBE's, meditation, visualization, crystals or all the other things that might help you break free from the illusion that is only accessible through the fully functional human mind, you are considered a nutjob, batshit crazy or similar insults.

All the spiritualists like Castaneda, Crowley, Leary, J.c Lilly, R.A Wilson, Blavatsky, N. Roerich, Osho, etc. are considered evil, crazy or
Posessed, while cults like Heavens Gate (the Mountain Dew suicide cult) are pushed in the Media - so we know - spiritualists must be freaks!

After nearly a decade of research in this area, I came to the conclusion that this is all intentional. There is no other explanation. TPTB don't want us to break free - because then they can't do whatever the do to us anymore. I didn't figure out completely what they are doing to us and why they only can do it in this illusion. TPTB are most likely working for the Archons who are the creators of this realm. And yes, YHVH is one of them. But one thing is certain. If we break free, the game is over for them.
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


All very well put. So what do we do to break free? That is the question. Diet helps, no t.v. helps, no religion helps, lots of time in nature helps, but I think help from above needs to step in as well. It is time for the human race to demand the truths and for our freedom. I demand these things of the Universe, for humanity. It is time. I for one am soooo very tired. How about you?
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The worst thing to happen for organized religion is for people to touch and get to know their souls. They must say and do anything to keep that from happening, for once it happens, religion crumbles.

GREAT post.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


The ego itself is designed to keep you away from your higher self.
Ever tried meditating or inducing an OBE?
First come the thoughts which distract you, the. The Itching... Etc, etc.
The system is totally developed to keep us focused into 3d
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Right on dude. I have had the same feeling. If we all discovered ayahuasca a few hundred years ago mainstream religions we would be living in a far different world. The Shamans have a deep understanding of nature and the infinate potential of being human and creative.
Plant based shamanism is very difficult but forces you to look inward and release the demons that we keep inside. Since my huge letting go experinces the world has been transforming, I have a great understanding of the universe and contact with my higher self. You cannot supress someone if they find their true spirit, once you break out of your shell you cannot go back into it.
You also cannot preach this, you have to look and find it yourself. After experinceing the mundane for years many start to think there seems to be something else missing in which I have to connect with. Or one may seem to be extremely bored or need a change for something, this is your spirit calling out to you.
taking mushrooms and ayahusaca with intent was the greatest thing I have ever done and my life has been totally transformed because of it. If you have the courage the universe will move obsticles, it is quite incredible to witness and experince.
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Absolutely 100% accurate.
I have been the hardcore pc-gamer nerd in my youth.
Nowadays that is all totally boring. Only topics of the soul and mind can keep me entertained, since i unlocked my higher self through psychedelic experiences.
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clappa
Right!!
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Ever wondered why there is such an overwhelming resistance regarding spirituality? It is like you certainly become an outcast when you adress such topics in public. For example, try and talk to your friends about Out of Body experiences. Even if your friends experienced this phenomenon first hand - when you talk about it in a group of people, you will get ridiculed. Try it, here on GLP. The alpha-male-muscle-boys will stomp you down with one of their funny&cool insults, laugh at you and not even consider you might be right. The sad thing is, they don't realize they follow an indoctrinated pattern.

This system of ridicule has been set in place carefully at the beginning of the western civilisation by TPTB. It is essential to keep humanity trapped. And it works just fine! Although from time to time people slip through their net, the mayority stays "sheeple". We will progress, eventually. But with a fully functional spiritual system, we'd have been over the finish line long time ago.

You see, the destruction of indogenous folks all around the world happened for a reason. Instructed by the roman catholic church, the spanish conquistadores went over to south america and butchered the mayans and their likes. They burned their books or took the most important scriptures into custody where they remain until today in the hidden vatican library.

The same goes for the native europeans. The knowledge of the druids was wiped out by the roman empire. Not because they wanted their goods, but because the pagan belief system posed a threat to the supressing christian belief system.

The native american indians and their shamans... Wiped out. I never understood why they did this. Of course because their belief system was connected to the spirit world, which offered genuine first hand spiritual experience, and that could not be tolerated.

Another example is the destruction of the library of Alexandria.... How covinient for them...the cradle of information, burned... The knowledge of the mystery schools destroyed so that only a few chosen could use it against the rest of us.

The system of religion is a trap to keep us from true spiritual experiences. You don't need to work on you soul, because the saviour of your particular religion will manage it in the end. You just need to worship him.

The entheogenic plants of the world are hatef by most of the population. Why? Most of the haters never even tried them and insult the users as dirty "hippies" or "vegetables" . They can't help themselves. They didn't break free yet and just keep repeating the nefarious insults they were programmed to shout.

Fluoride, Aspartame, etc. in our water supplies and mercury in our lamps keep us dumb and numb. The fastfood culture was invented to keep us at low energy levels through a nutrition deficit so we cannot use our endocrine system, especially the pineal gland to break free from the illusion. The whole "humans-are-flesh-eaters" thing might be a gigantic hoax for all we know. Why else would there be so much hatred against vegetarianism? Look it up, here on GLP. Vegetarians are stomped into the ground, only for a personal decision. People who grow their own fruits and vegetables in the garden are now considered as criminals and codex alimentarius strongly underlines this...

The knowledge of the pineal gland has been kept out of the mainstream for too long. They knew it since Rene Descardes and possibly much longer (egypt, eye of horus). The educational system is designed to keep us ignorant and slogans like "ignorance is bliss" are randomly thrown out there so we believe this stuff.

If you only inform yourself about the spirit realms, other dimensions, things like NDE's or OBE's, meditation, visualization, crystals or all the other things that might help you break free from the illusion that is only accessible through the fully functional human mind, you are considered a nutjob, batshit crazy or similar insults.

All the spiritualists like Castaneda, Crowley, Leary, J.c Lilly, R.A Wilson, Blavatsky, N. Roerich, Osho, etc. are considered evil, crazy or
Posessed, while cults like Heavens Gate (the Mountain Dew suicide cult) are pushed in the Media - so we know - spiritualists must be freaks!

After nearly a decade of research in this area, I came to the conclusion that this is all intentional. There is no other explanation. TPTB don't want us to break free - because then they can't do whatever the do to us anymore. I didn't figure out completely what they are doing to us and why they only can do it in this illusion. TPTB are most likely working for the Archons who are the creators of this realm. And yes, YHVH is one of them. But one thing is certain. If we break free, the game is over for them.
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


All very well put. So what do we do to break free? That is the question. Diet helps, no t.v. helps, no religion helps, lots of time in nature helps, but I think help from above needs to step in as well. It is time for the human race to demand the truths and for our freedom. I demand these things of the Universe, for humanity. It is time. I for one am soooo very tired. How about you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317305


I feel he same way, friend. So very very tired of the "kids games, played by 70 year old men" and all the bullshit. It is so tiring when you look through the illusion and wait for the others to get it.

And yes, diet is a crucial part of breaking free. Might be the most important part, but the first step should be: turn off your TV. If you can't completely stop watching, connect your pc to your tv and watch at least what is interesting to you. Don't let them feed you intellectually. As mentioned, psychedelics can help, but are obviously not for everyone. MeditAtion serves the same purpose. With a smaller ego, you will make more progress in shorter time. IMO, it's impossible to break the ego completely, because it grows back.
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5* and karma, OP =)

I think we're well underway into what the new age is going to be centered upon. War/famine/poverty, the clash of Christianity and Islam, and from the ashes the saving grace of Paganism.

All of the occult symbolism is in our midst, ready for the newly converted Pagan sheeple to stand in awe at how their benefactors knew 'the truth' all along and had it all worked out for them.

But even in Paganism is a method of control. True awakening lies in the realization that we are not unique. We all share identical experiences. It is the unique relationship each of us holds with the creator that can make our perspective of the shared experiences feel different. For me, at least, that is what spirituality is about - coming to an understanding of one's relationship with the creator. Religious doctrine will always impede one's efforts in this regard as any doctrine, be it set in stone or a living one, leaves no room for perspective.

There is spiritual wealth and then there is worldly wealth. One to serve others and one to serve self. You are absolutely right, OP - TPTB must at all costs prevent as many as possible from attaining spiritual wealth. He who has wealth of spirit will never bow to another for worldly goods and will rather give up his own possessions for another to achieve more spiritual wealth. All the gold in the world will fail to hold domain over a pure heart.

Good post OP, can u recommend sites/literature on this topic please?
 Quoting: Tyrone

"The Master Game" by Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval is an excellent source.
 Quoting: Psychedelicat


Maybe the starting point for the big clash are the zion olympics 2012 ... Who knows... But it will happen, definately. And the following new age religion will be the fake salvation. Hopefully, enough people are aware of that. If so, it is our one big chance to break free and develop our own spiritual system
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book hf OP!
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book hf OP!
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I want you to pat your head and rub your belly while adding a captcha text blindfolded.

Because what you write is outstanding!

and everyone should read this.
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I want you to pat your head and rub your belly while adding a captcha text blindfolded.

Because what you write is outstanding!

and everyone should read this.
hf
yeah!
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Mighty kind of you! I feel flattered ;)
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Alan Watts - The Social Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are
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something i never understood about this pineal gland activation stuff, what is the purpose / prize ? does one get anything useful out of it except personal experiences?

i'm very sceptical about this new age thing, but at least it offers people information how to have spiritual experiences without organized religion.

personally i dont consider psychedelic experiences to be spiritual per se, but more "personal" experiences, where you learn about yourself and the your consciousness.

i think its borderline mentally ill to start believing in beings from other dimensions etc through hallucinations and your imagination. thats how religion works..

but each to its own, my brothers and sisters!
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Great post OP! You speak the truth, here in East Texas if you even mention meditation people look at you like you have a pterodactyl on your head. Its ridiculous.
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something i never understood about this pineal gland activation stuff, what is the purpose / prize ? does one get anything useful out of it except personal experiences?

i'm very sceptical about this new age thing, but at least it offers people information how to have spiritual experiences without organized religion.

personally i dont consider psychedelic experiences to be spiritual per se, but more "personal" experiences, where you learn about yourself and the your consciousness.

i think its borderline mentally ill to start believing in beings from other dimensions etc through hallucinations and your imagination. thats how religion works..

but each to its own, my brothers and sisters!
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Well, you can see it as borderline mentally ill.
Or you could see it as a liberation. The normal-day consciousness is only a very limited part of reality. The rest has been stolen from us.
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something i never understood about this pineal gland activation stuff, what is the purpose / prize ? does one get anything useful out of it except personal experiences?

i'm very sceptical about this new age thing, but at least it offers people information how to have spiritual experiences without organized religion.

personally i dont consider psychedelic experiences to be spiritual per se, but more "personal" experiences, where you learn about yourself and the your consciousness.

i think its borderline mentally ill to start believing in beings from other dimensions etc through hallucinations and your imagination. thats how religion works..

but each to its own, my brothers and sisters!
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Well, you can see it as borderline mentally ill.
Or you could see it as a liberation. The normal-day consciousness is only a very limited part of reality. The rest has been stolen from us.
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but isnt believing in interdimensional beings etc basically the same as believing in say the christian god? in my opinion it dumbs down the psychedelic/personal/spiritual experience..
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Not only Crowley but Osho also had issues.

I agree w/ some of what you said but most of the names on that are not people I would personally recommend using are role models.
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something i never understood about this pineal gland activation stuff, what is the purpose / prize ? does one get anything useful out of it except personal experiences?

i'm very sceptical about this new age thing, but at least it offers people information how to have spiritual experiences without organized religion.

personally i dont consider psychedelic experiences to be spiritual per se, but more "personal" experiences, where you learn about yourself and the your consciousness.

i think its borderline mentally ill to start believing in beings from other dimensions etc through hallucinations and your imagination. thats how religion works..

but each to its own, my brothers and sisters!
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Well, you can see it as borderline mentally ill.
Or you could see it as a liberation. The normal-day consciousness is only a very limited part of reality. The rest has been stolen from us.
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


but isnt believing in interdimensional beings etc basically the same as believing in say the christian god? in my opinion it dumbs down the psychedelic/personal/spiritual experience..
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In my opinion, the christian god exists, or existed. Only he is not the prime creator, but the exact opposite. A negative energy sucker.

And if he really does not exist, we created him in our minds... Which makes him kind of real.

I don't think this dumbs down the pschedelic experience. Look at ayahuasca. You interact with various interdimensional, or "illusory" entities, which can teach you lots of stuff.

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Not only Crowley but Osho also had issues.

I agree w/ some of what you said but most of the names on that are not people I would personally recommend using are role models.
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Im aware that these people are kinda freakish...
There's a thin line between genious and insanity, they say.
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Unlearn everything ... then start over.

That's what I had to. Always knowing something just ain't right. Seeing it firsthand,I can't even begin to explain ...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Not only Crowley but Osho also had issues.

I agree w/ some of what you said but most of the names on that are not people I would personally recommend using are role models.
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Im aware that these people are kinda freakish...
There's a thin line between genious and insanity, they say.
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It's not a matter of being freakish as it is a matter of living up to the principles you espouse.

Those two, no doubt, had genius intelligence.

But as far as an 'awakened person' goes I would tend to leave that to a few select folk such as Sri Ramana Maharshi and Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj.

But a person who thinks orgies will bring awakening and another who uses other peoples money to buy 200 Rolls Royces...I have to question their spiritual awakening.
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Re: The Great Conspiracy - Spirituality, Shamanism, Magick and YOU
The difference is between spirituality itself and a spiritualist. Spirituality is very important. Finding one's own soul is the key to being free and living a happy life. But, it's a personal journey, and so when a spiritualist comes along, usually they convey some key truths about life but also embed their own self serving tidbits within those truths thereby possibly steering people away from their soul and not actually into the light. That's where I have a problem. It's not the spirituality, but those that claim to be the ones to dispense it to the rest of us when it's really a personal journey.

Look to some of the great teachers like Jesus or the Buddha. They went away for awhile and acquired great wisdom. But then spiritualists came along and built up a giant context surrounding that wisdom, resulting in various religious texts that were used to manipulate and control people. Maybe instead, people should have learned form the examples of Jesus and the Buddha and just gone on a similar personal journey of enlightenment instead of assuming that spiritual wisdom is a one size fits all dogmatic process.

So, again the difference is between the spirituality itself (very important) versus the spiritualists, who possibly could have a positive impact, but inevitably will also embed their own selfishness into their "teachings" rendering them hopelessly inferior to a person merely looking within themselves and discovering the truth for themselves.
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Re: The Great Conspiracy - Spirituality, Shamanism, Magick and YOU
There are other methods to reach the same goals you're looking towards.

There are ways to arm yourself against TPTB.

Ascension is something that could be done tomorrow night in a coiler's basement. Afterall, we're only talking about changing our energetic frequencies.

Why do you think the works of Tesla and Rife are just as suppressed?

We live in an energetic universe. As a group of people we seem oblivious to that fact sometimes.

Here is my advice: voltage doesn't kill, current does. You'd be amazed at what a certain high voltage and a particular frequency can do to....enlighten you, so to speak.

There already is a very grand plan. Everyone shall play their part. Just know what side to pick when the time comes.





GLP