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The Great Conspiracy - Spirituality, Shamanism, Magick and YOU

 
The Norwalk Avenger

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Ever wondered why there is such an overwhelming resistance regarding spirituality? It is like you certainly become an outcast when you adress such topics in public. For example, try and talk to your friends about Out of Body experiences. Even if your friends experienced this phenomenon first hand - when you talk about it in a group of people, you will get ridiculed. Try it, here on GLP. The alpha-male-muscle-boys will stomp you down with one of their funny&cool insults, laugh at you and not even consider you might be right. The sad thing is, they don't realize they follow an indoctrinated pattern.

This system of ridicule has been set in place carefully at the beginning of the western civilisation by TPTB. It is essential to keep humanity trapped. And it works just fine! Although from time to time people slip through their net, the mayority stays "sheeple". We will progress, eventually. But with a fully functional spiritual system, we'd have been over the finish line long time ago.

You see, the destruction of indogenous folks all around the world happened for a reason. Instructed by the roman catholic church, the spanish conquistadores went over to south america and butchered the mayans and their likes. They burned their books or took the most important scriptures into custody where they remain until today in the hidden vatican library.

The same goes for the native europeans. The knowledge of the druids was wiped out by the roman empire. Not because they wanted their goods, but because the pagan belief system posed a threat to the supressing christian belief system.

The native american indians and their shamans... Wiped out. I never understood why they did this. Of course because their belief system was connected to the spirit world, which offered genuine first hand spiritual experience, and that could not be tolerated.

Another example is the destruction of the library of Alexandria.... How covinient for them...the cradle of information, burned... The knowledge of the mystery schools destroyed so that only a few chosen could use it against the rest of us.

The system of religion is a trap to keep us from true spiritual experiences. You don't need to work on you soul, because the saviour of your particular religion will manage it in the end. You just need to worship him.

The entheogenic plants of the world are hatef by most of the population. Why? Most of the haters never even tried them and insult the users as dirty "hippies" or "vegetables" . They can't help themselves. They didn't break free yet and just keep repeating the nefarious insults they were programmed to shout.

Fluoride, Aspartame, etc. in our water supplies and mercury in our lamps keep us dumb and numb. The fastfood culture was invented to keep us at low energy levels through a nutrition deficit so we cannot use our endocrine system, especially the pineal gland to break free from the illusion. The whole "humans-are-flesh-eaters" thing might be a gigantic hoax for all we know. Why else would there be so much hatred against vegetarianism? Look it up, here on GLP. Vegetarians are stomped into the ground, only for a personal decision. People who grow their own fruits and vegetables in the garden are now considered as criminals and codex alimentarius strongly underlines this...

The knowledge of the pineal gland has been kept out of the mainstream for too long. They knew it since Rene Descardes and possibly much longer (egypt, eye of horus). The educational system is designed to keep us ignorant and slogans like "ignorance is bliss" are randomly thrown out there so we believe this stuff.

If you only inform yourself about the spirit realms, other dimensions, things like NDE's or OBE's, meditation, visualization, crystals or all the other things that might help you break free from the illusion that is only accessible through the fully functional human mind, you are considered a nutjob, batshit crazy or similar insults.

All the spiritualists like Castaneda, Crowley, Leary, J.c Lilly, R.A Wilson, Blavatsky, N. Roerich, Osho, etc. are considered evil, crazy or
Posessed, while cults like Heavens Gate (the Mountain Dew suicide cult) are pushed in the Media - so we know - spiritualists must be freaks!

After nearly a decade of research in this area, I came to the conclusion that this is all intentional. There is no other explanation. TPTB don't want us to break free - because then they can't do whatever the do to us anymore. I didn't figure out completely what they are doing to us and why they only can do it in this illusion. TPTB are most likely working for the Archons who are the creators of this realm. And yes, YHVH is one of them. But one thing is certain. If we break free, the game is over for them.
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


Bravo.

As for what I think, I think you have described, in part, the Luciferian Agenda. Sometimes it helps to frame things in another perspective. We are constantly evolving into higher and higher energy forms. Our destiny is to emanate to a higher resonance. I am trying to not flavor this with religious overtones, but it is an important point. The administrator of the terran realm, by some called Satan, by some Kal Niranjan, it's his JOB to make sure as many of our souls/essences remain in his purview.

It's like if you were put in charge of a chicken coop. You have NO INTEREST in allowing those chickens to escape because to do so would threaten your vitality/effectiveness. Now, imagine that the chickens started developing systems, methods and beliefs that allowed them the chance of one day escaping the coop (Like a New Age version of Chicken Run). What would you do? You can't kill the chickens outright, nor can you reveal yourself to them because they wouldn't understand you anyways and if they did understand what reality was like, they would revolt.

The answer? Send in your own chickens to break down the ones in the coop, to keep them in there as long as possible. If one gets out, so be it, but that's only few and far between.

If the chicken coop analogy doesn't work, try Plato's Cave. The point I am making is that we are meant to seek our own path to that higher realm. The other point I am making is that EVERYTHING-EVERYTHING-EVERYTHING in this terrestrial realm is meant to keep us here. Including kids. Think about the differing attitudes about offspring that other cultures have, and you realize that our own kids have been turned into the objects of love addictions that constantly keep us on the look out for our family's interests above everyone else's. If you think about it, that's just a group version of me-me-me, it becomes us-us-us. Add the toxic catalyst of identity politics and it should be no wonder why things are the way they are in the states.

That is why many orthodox religions stress things like asceticism and abstinence. It's not because they're just being 'party poopers', it's because look at what happens when you allow people to become sex addicts. There's a reason the divorce rate in the US has been over 50% for a long time. People don't stay married, they don't even date for that long. Everything is, in some way, shape or form, a me-me-me thing that is all a trap to keep us from finding our true common destiny as energy beings that don't need clothes and cars.

How we get there is so far beyond irrelevant that it's not worth putting labels on. I think all religions have something to offer otherwise they wouldn't have become religions. That's not to say any religion gets a carte blanche but it also irks me that at the slightest mention of something slightly evoking Christian imagery (I'm Catholic) I get smacked down for talking about my "Christian Bullshit". Yes it bugs me because it shuts down so many conversations before they have a chance of happening. It's like I want to say "I didn't order the Crusades... chill."

I'm like Strider the Ranger, totally cool but also really honest about human nature and the tendency it has to fuck things up. I'm also pretty critical of Western (American and European) culture, mainly with certain elements of it, like the empirical method, that have caused us to have something of a complex regarding how we deal with information. This is in spite of growing up in Southern CA, about as urban a jungle as you can find. I benefit from technology, it's true, but it's also true that in some areas, machines and technology have come to have power over us, and that's something that deserves looking into.

Take a look at this document and see if it does not blow your mind. You may not like or agree with parts of it, maybe any of it. I also don't pretend to believe that this is the absolute truth. What I do know, however, is that the current crop of explanations for various things just don't add up to me. This... text, helped to put some of those things into perspective.

[link to 3108.info]

If ANY of this interests you, I am always looking to share ideas and yes, conspiracy theories. I know that some of my ideas are a little weird, but that's ok. I just consider it as belonging to a minority. However, I believe that it is my job, as well as the rest of this minority, to do something to tip the balance of power in the other direction in whatever way we can. What we do has effects on other planes of existence apart from and outside our own.

You can find me on Facebook at [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Please 'Like' my page, I think it's important to get the word out to those who have ears to hear.

Nahualli

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Sooo true! People cant handle stuff outside the box they become mad and want to hurt you,even hippies behave like this in sweden. They just want to dance even if the whole building is on fire they dont care, hey dont be so negativ man think happy thougts and it will all be ok. Yea right. I had to leave the city, now i live in the middle of a great forest with no neighbours a big foodgarden and lots of animals. Paradise is a state of mind and you can find it if you leave the electro smog/cage.
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I agree with much of what you have to say, but just FYI, crowley was a dark magician who used initiates as puppets for dark purposes and to this still does. However, with that said, maybe without Crowley, we wouldn't be at the capstone event we are at today in such a short period of time.
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I'm well aware.
But without him, there would be no NASA, no 60's psychedelic revolution, no awareness of the Dark Brotherhood, and lots of other things fo sure. (also, no scientology, which wouldn't be a bad thing)
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


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Ever wondered why there is such an overwhelming resistance regarding spirituality? It is like you certainly become an outcast when you adress such topics in public. For example, try and talk to your friends about Out of Body experiences. Even if your friends experienced this phenomenon first hand - when you talk about it in a group of people, you will get ridiculed. Try it, here on GLP. The alpha-male-muscle-boys will stomp you down with one of their funny&cool insults, laugh at you and not even consider you might be right. The sad thing is, they don't realize they follow an indoctrinated pattern.

This system of ridicule has been set in place carefully at the beginning of the western civilisation by TPTB. It is essential to keep humanity trapped. And it works just fine! Although from time to time people slip through their net, the mayority stays "sheeple". We will progress, eventually. But with a fully functional spiritual system, we'd have been over the finish line long time ago.

You see, the destruction of indogenous folks all around the world happened for a reason. Instructed by the roman catholic church, the spanish conquistadores went over to south america and butchered the mayans and their likes. They burned their books or took the most important scriptures into custody where they remain until today in the hidden vatican library.

The same goes for the native europeans. The knowledge of the druids was wiped out by the roman empire. Not because they wanted their goods, but because the pagan belief system posed a threat to the supressing christian belief system.

The native american indians and their shamans... Wiped out. I never understood why they did this. Of course because their belief system was connected to the spirit world, which offered genuine first hand spiritual experience, and that could not be tolerated.

Another example is the destruction of the library of Alexandria.... How covinient for them...the cradle of information, burned... The knowledge of the mystery schools destroyed so that only a few chosen could use it against the rest of us.

The system of religion is a trap to keep us from true spiritual experiences. You don't need to work on you soul, because the saviour of your particular religion will manage it in the end. You just need to worship him.

The entheogenic plants of the world are hatef by most of the population. Why? Most of the haters never even tried them and insult the users as dirty "hippies" or "vegetables" . They can't help themselves. They didn't break free yet and just keep repeating the nefarious insults they were programmed to shout.

Fluoride, Aspartame, etc. in our water supplies and mercury in our lamps keep us dumb and numb. The fastfood culture was invented to keep us at low energy levels through a nutrition deficit so we cannot use our endocrine system, especially the pineal gland to break free from the illusion. The whole "humans-are-flesh-eaters" thing might be a gigantic hoax for all we know. Why else would there be so much hatred against vegetarianism? Look it up, here on GLP. Vegetarians are stomped into the ground, only for a personal decision. People who grow their own fruits and vegetables in the garden are now considered as criminals and codex alimentarius strongly underlines this...

The knowledge of the pineal gland has been kept out of the mainstream for too long. They knew it since Rene Descardes and possibly much longer (egypt, eye of horus). The educational system is designed to keep us ignorant and slogans like "ignorance is bliss" are randomly thrown out there so we believe this stuff.

If you only inform yourself about the spirit realms, other dimensions, things like NDE's or OBE's, meditation, visualization, crystals or all the other things that might help you break free from the illusion that is only accessible through the fully functional human mind, you are considered a nutjob, batshit crazy or similar insults.

All the spiritualists like Castaneda, Crowley, Leary, J.c Lilly, R.A Wilson, Blavatsky, N. Roerich, Osho, etc. are considered evil, crazy or
Posessed, while cults like Heavens Gate (the Mountain Dew suicide cult) are pushed in the Media - so we know - spiritualists must be freaks!

After nearly a decade of research in this area, I came to the conclusion that this is all intentional. There is no other explanation. TPTB don't want us to break free - because then they can't do whatever the do to us anymore. I didn't figure out completely what they are doing to us and why they only can do it in this illusion. TPTB are most likely working for the Archons who are the creators of this realm. And yes, YHVH is one of them. But one thing is certain. If we break free, the game is over for them.
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


Bravo.

As for what I think, I think you have described, in part, the Luciferian Agenda. Sometimes it helps to frame things in another perspective. We are constantly evolving into higher and higher energy forms. Our destiny is to emanate to a higher resonance. I am trying to not flavor this with religious overtones, but it is an important point. The administrator of the terran realm, by some called Satan, by some Kal Niranjan, it's his JOB to make sure as many of our souls/essences remain in his purview.

It's like if you were put in charge of a chicken coop. You have NO INTEREST in allowing those chickens to escape because to do so would threaten your vitality/effectiveness. Now, imagine that the chickens started developing systems, methods and beliefs that allowed them the chance of one day escaping the coop (Like a New Age version of Chicken Run). What would you do? You can't kill the chickens outright, nor can you reveal yourself to them because they wouldn't understand you anyways and if they did understand what reality was like, they would revolt.

The answer? Send in your own chickens to break down the ones in the coop, to keep them in there as long as possible. If one gets out, so be it, but that's only few and far between.

If the chicken coop analogy doesn't work, try Plato's Cave. The point I am making is that we are meant to seek our own path to that higher realm. The other point I am making is that EVERYTHING-EVERYTHING-EVERYTHING in this terrestrial realm is meant to keep us here. Including kids. Think about the differing attitudes about offspring that other cultures have, and you realize that our own kids have been turned into the objects of love addictions that constantly keep us on the look out for our family's interests above everyone else's. If you think about it, that's just a group version of me-me-me, it becomes us-us-us. Add the toxic catalyst of identity politics and it should be no wonder why things are the way they are in the states.

That is why many orthodox religions stress things like asceticism and abstinence. It's not because they're just being 'party poopers', it's because look at what happens when you allow people to become sex addicts. There's a reason the divorce rate in the US has been over 50% for a long time. People don't stay married, they don't even date for that long. Everything is, in some way, shape or form, a me-me-me thing that is all a trap to keep us from finding our true common destiny as energy beings that don't need clothes and cars.

How we get there is so far beyond irrelevant that it's not worth putting labels on. I think all religions have something to offer otherwise they wouldn't have become religions. That's not to say any religion gets a carte blanche but it also irks me that at the slightest mention of something slightly evoking Christian imagery (I'm Catholic) I get smacked down for talking about my "Christian Bullshit". Yes it bugs me because it shuts down so many conversations before they have a chance of happening. It's like I want to say "I didn't order the Crusades... chill."

I'm like Strider the Ranger, totally cool but also really honest about human nature and the tendency it has to fuck things up. I'm also pretty critical of Western (American and European) culture, mainly with certain elements of it, like the empirical method, that have caused us to have something of a complex regarding how we deal with information. This is in spite of growing up in Southern CA, about as urban a jungle as you can find. I benefit from technology, it's true, but it's also true that in some areas, machines and technology have come to have power over us, and that's something that deserves looking into.

Take a look at this document and see if it does not blow your mind. You may not like or agree with parts of it, maybe any of it. I also don't pretend to believe that this is the absolute truth. What I do know, however, is that the current crop of explanations for various things just don't add up to me. This... text, helped to put some of those things into perspective.

[link to 3108.info]

If ANY of this interests you, I am always looking to share ideas and yes, conspiracy theories. I know that some of my ideas are a little weird, but that's ok. I just consider it as belonging to a minority. However, I believe that it is my job, as well as the rest of this minority, to do something to tip the balance of power in the other direction in whatever way we can. What we do has effects on other planes of existence apart from and outside our own.

You can find me on Facebook at [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Please 'Like' my page, I think it's important to get the word out to those who have ears to hear.

Nahualli

The Norwalk Avenger
 Quoting: The Norwalk Avenger


Good stuff! I loved the chicken parrabel.

Will take a look into your link, as soon as I find the time.
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something i never understood about this pineal gland activation stuff, what is the purpose / prize ? does one get anything useful out of it except personal experiences?
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Look at it this way... Your conscious state has a direct impact on your physiology. If a person honors a very low level of consciousness and chooses to identify with negative emotions/energies/vibrations, their body will experience a weakened immune system and be prone to disorder/dysfunction/disease/etc. If you can conceptualize how one's state of mind (or consciousness) can have physical effects on the body, it will help. There is a field of psychology that deals with psycho-somatic disorders/conditions - meaning the psyche produces physiological responses or states within the body. So with this understanding, when one pursues a path to HIGHER levels of conscious awareness (understanding of oneself and one's reality), there can be phsyiological changes that accompany this journey. That is why the pineal gland becomes activiated. It is a physiological response to energetic forces within driven by a person's rising level of conscious awareness. Consciousness = energy.

It's not always a process that is researched about in advance and then intentionally pursued/explored by individuals. Some people are going along on their own journey and raising their conscious awareness level through a variety of different means out of their own pursuit of higher states of consciousness and through a desire to explore the true nature of their reality. Some people meditate initially to enhance relaxation and reduce stress, some people explore altered states with psychedelics, some people may explore through music or the visual arts, the sciences, etc. It doesn't really matter how you go about it because the end result is the same - higher levels of conscious awareness. The point I'm trying to convey is that it's not generally a specific 'experience' that people seek out in advance to accomplish, rather a combination of experiences that many stumble upon through exploration of themselves and exploration of their reality/environment. There may be some exceptions in terms of people who want to expedite the process through use of psychedelics (I have no experience in this field and can't speak about this perspective).

As far as the benefits? I can only speak from my perspective but I would say a greater understanding/awareness of yourself (consciousness), the Universe, nature, emotions, energy, the interconnectivity of all living things, etc. Amplified sensory perception as well as increased ability to connect with your intuition or natural instincts. You shed your purely physical understanding of the world which is the product of the influence of the left-hemisphere of the the brain and the social conditioning of our society. In the process of raising one's conscious awareness you can build up to a 'tipping point' where you experience a dramatic shift in your level of conscious awareness and it is through this experience that you can transcend your fears (which ultimately tie back to the fear of death or non-existence). It should be noted you have to work through your fears & negative emotions to overcome them and it can be an uncomfortable process. There are also some physiological 'symptoms' or changes that the body can experience as a result of exploring this path and those can also be uncomfortable to experience but are only temporary.

It's really important to note that when I speak of higher/lower levels of consciousness, there is no ranking system in play here between individuals. Every individual's level of consciousness should be viewed only in the context of their own personal journey/exploration, and not compared to one another. People will generally guide themselves along accordingly and only pursue & explore knowledge and experiences that they are ready to handle. Therefore it's important for everyone to move at their own pace and not to force anybody into anything that they are not ready to handle from a conscious standpoint. People should trust their intuition (which comes from their heart) and not be led astray by the deception of the ego (mind), which is where fear originates from.

This is just my perspective and experience with the subject matter so take it for what it is and continue to ask questions and gain insight from others. Use discernment and be cautious of those who spread ignorance about this subject matter and do not speak from any standpoint of personal exploration or experience.

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The Norwalk Avenger, I have proclaimed you being a LIAR.

You are a twisted thingy! AN ABOMINABLE LIAR.

What have you done with my post where I brand you a LIAR!!!

Go away, and rethink your lowlife, for your heart had been weighed and found to be a stone.
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No clue what you're talking about, so 1dunno1

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TL;DR:

They do everything they can to keep you away from spirituality.
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


5* and a BIG THANKS OP

Very good thread ;)
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TL;DR:

They do everything they can to keep you away from spirituality.
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5* and a BIG THANKS OP

Very good thread ;)
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Thanks mate.
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