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Hallucinogens' [drugs] effects on our being. (spiritual)

 
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Our astral body is one (maybe the most important one) part of our whole anime. We, as multidimensional beings, can be best identified with our astral identity - which is immortal and contains & carries the deep emotional set of us. The astral includes the chakras.

Our astral body gets constantly assigned under certain frequencies. The frequencies our astral body gets assigned to are detrimental to our whole being, even to our mental and as well, as a consequence, to the physical aspect.

You must be aware that inside us there is an ongoing process of inner alchemy. You can feel it if you concentrate enough. That is an ongoing process of rising and falling frequencies, alternating with each other, pretty much like a harmonious melody, or a compound forming - which at the end transforms to 'gold'.

So our astral body, and thus our whole being as well, moves towards different frequencies of vibration. In this way we spiritually transform/evolve. This is of the Universal Law.

What drugs do is that they 'rob us' of our spiritual progress.

What drugs do is that upon their ingestion they automatically assign you to a fixed frequency. You no longer hold your own evolutionary-obtained frequency, but you are assigned to a that specific one (the one of the plant's).

That's the reason why you feel so 'washed off' of everything you 've been under lately at that time. You 've got rid of your past problems / emotions, but also of your spiritual progress.

Spiritual progress comes from that inner alchemical process happening inside you. When you get rid of your vibratory always-alternating state and voluntarily assign to that of a foreign substance's, like cannabis, it's like throwing off your valuable gems which you passed a very long and difficult time to form.

After the drug's effects have passed you feel empty, 'washed off', and you have a sensation likely to 'missing' something major -yet you don't know what it is.

It feels like everything has gone once again to the 'start point' - like everything else be4 has never actually happened and you have to go under it all once again. Yet what has happened is that you vibrate in a new frequency, which is not necessarily a more enlightening one. It's not your own frequency - you 've been surpressed in terms of frequencies - you didn't remain sovereign. (Whoever who might read the "Bringers of the Dawn" would be familiar to these terms of 'frequencies/vibratory states' and the 'importance of sovereignity on them. They never discuss about drugs though)

At least this is my opinion. post yours. I 've been and I still am interested in this topic.

Furthermore , we actually constantly get under hallucinogenic effect in a small degree - sometimes it happens through inhaling tobacco smoke, and in another way by brain produced DMT.

Now from the above rises an important question. How could it be that DMT which is hallucinogenic gets produced in our own body? Maybe DMT (maybe we could say the same for other hallucinogens as well?) is not damageful when produced in a perfectly balanced and controlled rate by our organism?

Maybe the hallucinogens are not damageful themselves when produced internally - but only when injected (so, when intruding in an rate uncontrolled by the organism) in the organism without the proper conditions are formerly met? your thoughts... and please, I expect serious insights.

sorry for any spelling or syntax errors. I typed this quite in a hurry.

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What drugs do is that upon their ingestion they automatically assign you to a fixed frequency. You no longer hold your own evolutionary-obtained frequency, but you are assigned to a that specific one (the one of the plant's).

I maybe ponder the above for a day or two. Something about it sits right, but something else does not.

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What drugs do is that upon their ingestion they automatically assign you to a fixed frequency. You no longer hold your own evolutionary-obtained frequency, but you are assigned to a that specific one (the one of the plant's).

I maybe ponder the above for a day or two. Something about it sits right, but something else does not.

:jhbnih:
 Quoting: Dances


I 've been thinking about this topic for more than a year, but never decided to definitely strive towards finding a real insightful answer (maybe because it's quite a controversial topic).
I hope you achieve to find an answer to that, in case you wish it as much as I do.

maybe I should start to meditate again to come close to any insightful thoughts... I feel I 'crave' for some well-based insight to this.

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Rose scented cannabis ????



Back to rose scented cannabis roses hold the highest vibrational frequency of any living thing on earth at 320 or 380 hertz this is quite a high frequency which fungus and bacteria cannot thrive in so your immune system may think for the rose scented cannabis. Also through sympathetic vibration you smelling and smoking it, would raise your vibrational frequency. Sympathetic vibration is like hitting a tuning fork and another at a distance vibrates. Like your good vibes give me good vibes or your good mood gives me a good mood. I'm also a firm believer in promoting smiles that's why I give weed away when I can as it makes me feel good to make others feel good( this is probably another example of sympathetic vibration). If you'd like to learn more on sympathetic vibration look up Dale pond and you'll find some interesting videos. And if you've found any rose scented strains or very floral strains hopefully mns I'd love to hear about it and stop and smell the roses with you. Thanks for taking the time guys and hopefully some of these vibrations will resonate from me to you and you to the next. [link to www.mrnice.nl]

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Rose scented cannabis ????



Back to rose scented cannabis roses hold the highest vibrational frequency of any living thing on earth at 320 or 380 hertz this is quite a high frequency which fungus and bacteria cannot thrive in so your immune system may think for the rose scented cannabis. Also through sympathetic vibration you smelling and smoking it, would raise your vibrational frequency. Sympathetic vibration is like hitting a tuning fork and another at a distance vibrates. Like your good vibes give me good vibes or your good mood gives me a good mood. I'm also a firm believer in promoting smiles that's why I give weed away when I can as it makes me feel good to make others feel good( this is probably another example of sympathetic vibration). If you'd like to learn more on sympathetic vibration look up Dale pond and you'll find some interesting videos. And if you've found any rose scented strains or very floral strains hopefully mns I'd love to hear about it and stop and smell the roses with you. Thanks for taking the time guys and hopefully some of these vibrations will resonate from me to you and you to the next. [link to www.mrnice.nl]

:hge:
 Quoting: Dances


I 'll definitely save the webpages' (and the sympathetic vibratory physics) HTML and read them thoroughly offline. hope it gets me somewhere.

Many thanks for your insights.

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Tis a very interesting subject - hf

Blake: "Unknown to most people who smoke marijuana, is the fact that it expands psychic abilities as it expands the users' consciousness. In fact, the increase of personal clarity and, [higher] vibration are also the potential results of the expansion of consciousness, brought about by the miracle herb. The same is also potentially true of peyote, ayahusca, LSD and mushrooms."
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And in addition to that ^^^^...

Could there not be a cooperative relationship established, where, using a strictly shamanic method, the individual ingests the entheogen to have a mutually beneficial experience, harmoniously fusing his/her energy signature with that of the entheogen so that it serves to build on top of their energy, and not obscure or detract from it.

The only way to achieve this would be to go into the experience with a fully pure shamanic intention, inviting the sacrament into one's vessel so that it may synergize with one's frequency; perhaps like a temporary dual-frequency bridge or construct, moving in alchemical unison, but that does not deteriorate the vessels' original signature/frequency.

...I think it is possible, but only for experienced inner alchemists who have developed an indivisible and integral center.

I have much experience in this field and I can say first hand that I've witness many careless psychonauts get flung into polar directions, so I totally understand where you are coming from.
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Hallucinogens' are not drugs but a creation by nature meant to be used for a reason. Humanity has evolved to what we are today due to hallucinogens. They help us see things and OURSELVES in a different light and/or outside the box we reside in. Like a birds eye view. Drunks have been cured after taking LSD because they saw themselves from an outside perspective and did not like what they saw. It is an integral piece to our evolution. Some Hallucinogens like Shrooms and DMT actually give us good practice for the next stage in our evolution. I have done so much research on this subject that i could talk on and on about it with links but i will stop here and let OP be in peace.

peace

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Tis a very interesting subject - hf

Blake: "Unknown to most people who smoke marijuana, is the fact that it expands psychic abilities as it expands the users' consciousness. In fact, the increase of personal clarity and, [higher] vibration are also the potential results of the expansion of consciousness, brought about by the miracle herb. The same is also potentially true of peyote, ayahusca, LSD and mushrooms."
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 Quoting: Dances


I 'll include this to my to-read as well
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Tis a very interesting subject - hf

Blake: "Unknown to most people who smoke marijuana, is the fact that it expands psychic abilities as it expands the users' consciousness. In fact, the increase of personal clarity and, [higher] vibration are also the potential results of the expansion of consciousness, brought about by the miracle herb. The same is also potentially true of peyote, ayahusca, LSD and mushrooms."
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 Quoting: Dances


I 'll include this to my to-read as well
 Quoting: blue77


Intention- Is a Key


MB: "And people don't usually recognize this fact, because they're using the wrong intention?"

Blake: "That's right. When they smoke their intention is usually focused just on feeling a little better, or upon using the smoke as an avenue for interaction with others. So instead of realizing they have just undergone an important and powerful shift of consciousness, they waste a glorious opportunity. They fritter away a wonderful means to gain greater inner strength by focusing upon trivial things.

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And in addition to that ^^^^...

Could there not be a cooperative relationship established, where, using a strictly shamanic method, the individual ingests the entheogen to have a mutually beneficial experience, harmoniously fusing his/her energy signature with that of the entheogen so that it serves to build on top of their energy, and not obscure or detract from it.

The only way to achieve this would be to go into the experience with a fully pure shamanic intention, inviting the sacrament into one's vessel so that it may synergize with one's frequency; perhaps like a temporary dual-frequency bridge or construct, moving in alchemical unison, but that does not deteriorate the vessels' original signature/frequency.

...I think it is possible, but only for experienced inner alchemists who have developed an indivisible and integral center.

I have much experience in this field and I can say first hand that I've witness many careless psychonauts get flung into polar directions, so I totally understand where you are coming from.
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I understand what's your point AC. I sense however that you 'd need to be a quite high-skilled shaman to handle thoroughly such processes.

Anyway I 've always suspected (and I still do) that there is always some negative spiritual side effect (resulting from such experiences) around the corner- which we might not be able to perceive clearly at first, but which is actually a real problem that's going to take some time to fix.

I really hope that that is actually just my idea. anyway cheers

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Hallucinogens' are not drugs but a creation by nature meant to be used for a reason. Humanity has evolved to what we are today due to hallucinogens. They help us see things and OURSELVES in a different light and/or outside the box we reside in. Like a birds eye view. Drunks have been cured after taking LSD because they saw themselves from an outside perspective and did not like what they saw. It is an integral piece to our evolution. Some Hallucinogens like Shrooms and DMT actually give us good practice for the next stage in our evolution. I have done so much research on this subject that i could talk on and on about it with links but i will stop here and let OP be in peace.

peace

With Love DH:)
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


I hope it is exactly the way you described dbHelix. nobody would obviously want that he wakes up one morning the best of him has been 'leached out'.

If you reccomended me any of the most consistent writings you 've come across towards the topic (optionally in-link also with spirituality) I would really appreciate that. wish you all the best

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I certainly disagree with the notion that hallucinogens are "not drugs" as well, they precipitate a heavy physical and mental intoxication, there is no denying that...

And there isn't really much evidence to support the 'Stoned Ape' theory...even if it had some basis in fact it would still be a subjective measurement as to how much the ingestion of hallucinogens actually had in spurring rapid evolution.

The mind itself is as much an evolutionary tool than any substance that might alter it, and has the same capacity ,inherently, for altered perception, albeit not nearly as dramatic as the action of a hallucinogen.





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