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Now a new Caltech study suggests that specific changes in an overactive immune system can indeed contribute to autism-like behaviors in mice, and that in some cases, this activation can be related to what a developing fetus experiences in the womb.

The results appear in a paper this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

"We have long suspected that the immune system plays a role in the development of autism spectrum disorder," says Paul Patterson, the Anne P. and Benjamin F. Biaggini Professor of Biological Sciences at Caltech, who led the work. "In our studies of a mouse model based on an environmental risk factor for autism, we find that the immune system of the mother is a key factor in the eventual abnormal behaviors in the offspring."


Now blaming Autism on the mother, while secretly paying millions in hush money. Why am I not surprised.

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It's interesting, but God told me that He is responsible for the autism. I don't know if that's every case of autism or only my sons. Still, it may be something going on despite these dishonorable doctors.
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It's interesting, but God told me that He is responsible for the autism. I don't know if that's every case of autism or only my sons. Still, it may be something going on despite these dishonorable doctors.
 Quoting: FierySky


There's a doctor (sorry I can't remember his name right now) that believes that the inability of some women to become immune to the Rubella virus is the cause of autism in some children.

Some women do not become immune, even when given the shot. He theorized that the virus remains in the body and when the child is concieved, the virus attacks the child in utero. It either makes him sensitive to the MMR shot given around 2 years of age AND/OR makes him autistic in the womb.

It has always made sense to me....you can try to google it by putting in "autism non-immune rubella vaccine" or something of that sort.
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We almost lost our granddaughter to autism.
The day she received a MMR she went into this other world that no one could touch and wanted to drift off to sleep. You could flash your hand in front of her face and it was blank, no expression at all, as if she was in another world.
Would not even blink when you waved your hand right in front of eyes. Would not respond to her name, nothing. I would not let her go to sleep.

She was 18 months old and I was watching her that day, she had a low grade fever as expected, a lump on leg, which was not expected and began to seem lethargic and unresponsive to outside stimuli.

I saw her slipping away. I held her and prayed and began singing to her. After a little while of singing some of her favorite songs she seemed to come out of the place she had gone and began communicating with me again.
I just kept talking to her, I went around the whole house telling her what everything was. Door, window, wall, chair table, etc. until she seemed to come out of the what ever it was that grabbed a hold of her.
I know I spent at least two hours steadily interacting with her after she became alert again.

It was scary. She is fine now and drives her mama crazy like any normal child should.
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well, at least they are admitting it's immune system related (and i wouldn't doubt some get it in utero but i bet they aren't considering flu vaccines given to pregnant women). even if they can't bring themselves to acknowledge that receiving multi-dose IMMUNIZATIONS at birth. then they go on to get as many as 5 at a time during some visits- 2 months, 6 months, 12 months, 18 months- no, that can't have an effect on a still developing immune system, can it?

prior generations did not get so many. they got very few in comparison, were often older AND doctors refused to vaccinate a sick child. now, they'll vaccinate from birth, tons of vaccines the first year of life while the immune system is still developing, and they say it's "safe" if a child is sick (iow, IMMUNE SYSTEM is fighting something off so, hey, it won't hurt to inject them with some other antibodies, right?).

factor it all in and tell me how they aren't using these kids as guinea pigs.
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If this disconnected state was caused by the vaccine, how could it be that you were able to bring your granddaughter back around? If it is a physiological response to the shot, one would think a physical cure would be required. I am happy for you that your granddaughter is okay, but I think more studies need to be done before any cause can be definitively stated.

Also, if what you say is true, you need to get the word out. If that really helped, if it worked, more parents need to be made aware of the benefits of truly connecting with their children, especially after a traumatic event. Immunizations qualify, that traumatized the heck out of me every time I got shots for one of my kids. You know it has to do terrible things to them. Poor babies.

Interesting story. If your actions really saved your granddaughter from a life of autism, you are a hero.


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We know it's the vaccines; at least that's adding insult to injury and can cause autism even where there is no virus exposure. The Pharma mafia is simply using the oldest trick in the book: appealing to the lowest instincts in people; in this case: blaming women and by extension, mothers, for every evil under the sun, including bad weather. There are large parts of the world where a man can still divorce his wife, literally throw her out on the streets, for failing to produce sons when modern medical science shows perfectly plainly that sex is determined by the male, not the female. Scapegoat-strategy works every time because most humans are still morans.
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I'm not buying it. My thought, after extensive research online, is that it is caused by nutritional deficiencies,mainly DHA and B12. Not getting enough DHA and/or B12 will disrupt the supply of Seratonin in the brain. I just read that up to 85% of the US population may be deficient in both. Now think about this: The number of people on Psychiatric meds, especially SSRI's is dramatically increasing. The number of children with Autism: also increasing. Coincidence? Could be but I invite you all to look it up yourselves. The average American's diet is full of garbage, not nutrients. Our Doctors would rather throw pharmaceuticals at us than check our vitamin levels for deficiencies. BTW, Thermosal, found in vaccines ,is known to obliterate B12 levels in the body. I blame Big Pharma and the Dr's who are in bed with Big Pharma. I think it is 100% related to nutritional deficiency.
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It's interesting, but God told me that He is responsible for the autism. I don't know if that's every case of autism or only my sons. Still, it may be something going on despite these dishonorable doctors.
 Quoting: FierySky


There's a doctor (sorry I can't remember his name right now) that believes that the inability of some women to become immune to the Rubella virus is the cause of autism in some children.

Some women do not become immune, even when given the shot. He theorized that the virus remains in the body and when the child is concieved, the virus attacks the child in utero. It either makes him sensitive to the MMR shot given around 2 years of age AND/OR makes him autistic in the womb.

It has always made sense to me....you can try to google it by putting in "autism non-immune rubella vaccine" or something of that sort.
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Omgosh! I have never heard that before! I was unable to attain immunity for ruebella...they gave me the vaccine about 6 times in my adult life. I have a daughter with Aspergers syndrome.
Thanks for the info :)
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I read a few months ago that overweight women were more likely to have an autistic child. I think all these different causes are just to create confusion, to take the focus off vaccines. I have witnessed a otherwise normal 2 year old become autistic after his 2 year vaccinations. He is now severely autistic and institutionalized as he is very large for his age and very hard to handle.
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If this disconnected state was caused by the vaccine, how could it be that you were able to bring your granddaughter back around? If it is a physiological response to the shot, one would think a physical cure would be required. I am happy for you that your granddaughter is okay, but I think more studies need to be done before any cause can be definitively stated.

Also, if what you say is true, you need to get the word out. If that really helped, if it worked, more parents need to be made aware of the benefits of truly connecting with their children, especially after a traumatic event. Immunizations qualify, that traumatized the heck out of me every time I got shots for one of my kids. You know it has to do terrible things to them. Poor babies.

Interesting story. If your actions really saved your granddaughter from a life of autism, you are a hero.


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It is very true and awareness was the reason for posting that moment in my life.

All I know is she was responding when she arrived, slowly stopped responding over a period of a few hours after arriving at my house straight from getting a MMR shot.
It scared the hell out of me.
I sang and sang and sang and after itsy bitsy spider she raised her hand and did the spider coming down the spout and said "sing gen", I sang it again then began going around the house saying names of objects. In an attempt to get her to try and repeat what I was saying and keep her mind active and working outside herself.
She stayed alert and never slipped away again.
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It's interesting, but God told me that He is responsible for the autism. I don't know if that's every case of autism or only my sons. Still, it may be something going on despite these dishonorable doctors.
 Quoting: FierySky


There's a doctor (sorry I can't remember his name right now) that believes that the inability of some women to become immune to the Rubella virus is the cause of autism in some children.

Some women do not become immune, even when given the shot. He theorized that the virus remains in the body and when the child is concieved, the virus attacks the child in utero. It either makes him sensitive to the MMR shot given around 2 years of age AND/OR makes him autistic in the womb.

It has always made sense to me....you can try to google it by putting in "autism non-immune rubella vaccine" or something of that sort.
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Omgosh! I have never heard that before! I was unable to attain immunity for ruebella...they gave me the vaccine about 6 times in my adult life. I have a daughter with Aspergers syndrome.
Thanks for the info :)
 Quoting: Junie

Just out of curiousity, my nephew on my husbands side has aspergers. My nephew on my side has severe autism. Both mom's went into labor early and were on medication to stop contractions for a few months. Wondered if you had been through the same thing.
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It's interesting, but God told me that He is responsible for the autism. I don't know if that's every case of autism or only my sons. Still, it may be something going on despite these dishonorable doctors.
 Quoting: FierySky


There's a doctor (sorry I can't remember his name right now) that believes that the inability of some women to become immune to the Rubella virus is the cause of autism in some children.

Some women do not become immune, even when given the shot. He theorized that the virus remains in the body and when the child is concieved, the virus attacks the child in utero. It either makes him sensitive to the MMR shot given around 2 years of age AND/OR makes him autistic in the womb.

It has always made sense to me....you can try to google it by putting in "autism non-immune rubella vaccine" or something of that sort.
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Omgosh! I have never heard that before! I was unable to attain immunity for ruebella...they gave me the vaccine about 6 times in my adult life. I have a daughter with Aspergers syndrome.
Thanks for the info :)
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I am also rubella non-immune. I had the shot 3 months before I concieved. I waited longer than they said to because I thought it was prudent to do so.

My son was born autistic but is very high functioning. I wish I had told them to shove their shot...but hind sight is 20/20.
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I've often wondered this myself. If a women drinks diet cokes the whole time she is pregnant. Formaldehyde would damage the brain of the child. Diet could be a factor, and of course make sure you get those flu shots. You are what you eat. hf
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It's interesting, but God told me that He is responsible for the autism. I don't know if that's every case of autism or only my sons. Still, it may be something going on despite these dishonorable doctors.
 Quoting: FierySky


There's a doctor (sorry I can't remember his name right now) that believes that the inability of some women to become immune to the Rubella virus is the cause of autism in some children.

Some women do not become immune, even when given the shot. He theorized that the virus remains in the body and when the child is concieved, the virus attacks the child in utero. It either makes him sensitive to the MMR shot given around 2 years of age AND/OR makes him autistic in the womb.

It has always made sense to me....you can try to google it by putting in "autism non-immune rubella vaccine" or something of that sort.
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Omgosh! I have never heard that before! I was unable to attain immunity for ruebella...they gave me the vaccine about 6 times in my adult life. I have a daughter with Aspergers syndrome.
Thanks for the info :)
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I am also rubella non-immune. I had the shot 3 months before I concieved. I waited longer than they said to because I thought it was prudent to do so.

My son was born autistic but is very high functioning. I wish I had told them to shove their shot...but hind sight is 20/20.
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Could be something to this my daughter was unknowingly exposed to someone with rubella while pregnant.
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ofcourse its the mothers fault for allowing the child to receive vaccines.
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It's interesting, but God told me that He is responsible for the autism. I don't know if that's every case of autism or only my sons. Still, it may be something going on despite these dishonorable doctors.
 Quoting: FierySky


There's a doctor (sorry I can't remember his name right now) that believes that the inability of some women to become immune to the Rubella virus is the cause of autism in some children.

Some women do not become immune, even when given the shot. He theorized that the virus remains in the body and when the child is concieved, the virus attacks the child in utero. It either makes him sensitive to the MMR shot given around 2 years of age AND/OR makes him autistic in the womb.

It has always made sense to me....you can try to google it by putting in "autism non-immune rubella vaccine" or something of that sort.
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Omgosh! I have never heard that before! I was unable to attain immunity for ruebella...they gave me the vaccine about 6 times in my adult life. I have a daughter with Aspergers syndrome.
Thanks for the info :)
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Just out of curiousity, my nephew on my husbands side has aspergers. My nephew on my side has severe autism. Both mom's went into labor early and were on medication to stop contractions for a few months. Wondered if you had been through the same thing.
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My daughter was born at 23 weeks 2 days gestation. My water broke at 22weeks 1 day. I was mass amounts of magnesium sulfate for 8 days. She was also given all her immunizations when she left the hospital at 4.5 months old. Included in those were the triple shots.
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There's a doctor (sorry I can't remember his name right now) that believes that the inability of some women to become immune to the Rubella virus is the cause of autism in some children.

Some women do not become immune, even when given the shot. He theorized that the virus remains in the body and when the child is concieved, the virus attacks the child in utero. It either makes him sensitive to the MMR shot given around 2 years of age AND/OR makes him autistic in the womb.

It has always made sense to me....you can try to google it by putting in "autism non-immune rubella vaccine" or something of that sort.
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Omgosh! I have never heard that before! I was unable to attain immunity for ruebella...they gave me the vaccine about 6 times in my adult life. I have a daughter with Aspergers syndrome.
Thanks for the info :)
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I am also rubella non-immune. I had the shot 3 months before I concieved. I waited longer than they said to because I thought it was prudent to do so.

My son was born autistic but is very high functioning. I wish I had told them to shove their shot...but hind sight is 20/20.
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Could be something to this my daughter was unknowingly exposed to someone with rubella while pregnant.
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If you are immune to rubella, then the answer would be no. If you are not immune, then yes, if you are exposed to someone who has rubella (or german measles) the child can have autism, or be retarded or blind or can even die.

This is why they recommend having a rubella shot prior to getting pregnant if you are not already immune.

I wish I knew then what I know now....
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ofcourse its the mothers fault for allowing the child to receive vaccines.
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Hey jerk off, some of us didnt know then what we know now. I was 22 years old when my very premature daughter was born. I was only thinking about my 1 pound baby living, not questioning shots.
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I'm not buying it. My thought, after extensive research online, is that it is caused by nutritional deficiencies,mainly DHA and B12. Not getting enough DHA and/or B12 will disrupt the supply of Seratonin in the brain. I just read that up to 85% of the US population may be deficient in both. Now think about this: The number of people on Psychiatric meds, especially SSRI's is dramatically increasing. The number of children with Autism: also increasing. Coincidence? Could be but I invite you all to look it up yourselves. The average American's diet is full of garbage, not nutrients. Our Doctors would rather throw pharmaceuticals at us than check our vitamin levels for deficiencies. BTW, Thermosal, found in vaccines ,is known to obliterate B12 levels in the body. I blame Big Pharma and the Dr's who are in bed with Big Pharma. I think it is 100% related to nutritional deficiency.
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I think you're right in pointing out nutritional deficiencies here. They're at the base of just about every physical problem we have. A question, since you appear to be up to date on your info: B12, in this country, seems to me to be an unlikely deficiency in the younger population because most people are getting it from animal sources. Vegans and raw fooders can be a high risk group there (I'm one myself) and have to supplement or at least be very careful to get it however they can in their diet. Why then, have there not been a lot of cases of autism in the children from these groups? Since B12 is a bacteria found in the soil clinging to produce, organic gardeners can keep up their supply simply by not washing everything they eat, though alas, that can be too risky buying food retail. Any thoughts on this?
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We almost lost our granddaughter to autism.
The day she received a MMR she went into this other world that no one could touch and wanted to drift off to sleep. You could flash your hand in front of her face and it was blank, no expression at all, as if she was in another world.
Would not even blink when you waved your hand right in front of eyes. Would not respond to her name, nothing. I would not let her go to sleep.

She was 18 months old and I was watching her that day, she had a low grade fever as expected, a lump on leg, which was not expected and began to seem lethargic and unresponsive to outside stimuli.

I saw her slipping away. I held her and prayed and began singing to her. After a little while of singing some of her favorite songs she seemed to come out of the place she had gone and began communicating with me again.
I just kept talking to her, I went around the whole house telling her what everything was. Door, window, wall, chair table, etc. until she seemed to come out of the what ever it was that grabbed a hold of her.
I know I spent at least two hours steadily interacting with her after she became alert again.

It was scary. She is fine now and drives her mama crazy like any normal child should.
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It has been theorized that our Pineal Glands activate at around 18 months old when the first batch of DMT is synthesized. It's entirely possible that what you witnessed was the 'birth' of your granddaughter's spirit. I envy you. I tried and tried to be around as often as possible to catch my daughters' time to no avail.

If certain toxins in vaccines are designed to disrupt this process, it's not a stretch to say you likely changed that little girl's life for the better more than anyone ever could or will. If she had slipped away, who's to know how long (if ever) it would take for her to reconnect with the source.

I think you will have a beautiful, lasting connection with your granddaughter and that you should sing to her as often as you can =)
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There's a doctor (sorry I can't remember his name right now) that believes that the inability of some women to become immune to the Rubella virus is the cause of autism in some children.

Some women do not become immune, even when given the shot. He theorized that the virus remains in the body and when the child is concieved, the virus attacks the child in utero. It either makes him sensitive to the MMR shot given around 2 years of age AND/OR makes him autistic in the womb.

It has always made sense to me....you can try to google it by putting in "autism non-immune rubella vaccine" or something of that sort.
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Omgosh! I have never heard that before! I was unable to attain immunity for ruebella...they gave me the vaccine about 6 times in my adult life. I have a daughter with Aspergers syndrome.
Thanks for the info :)
 Quoting: Junie

Just out of curiousity, my nephew on my husbands side has aspergers. My nephew on my side has severe autism. Both mom's went into labor early and were on medication to stop contractions for a few months. Wondered if you had been through the same thing.
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My daughter was born at 23 weeks 2 days gestation. My water broke at 22weeks 1 day. I was mass amounts of magnesium sulfate for 8 days. She was also given all her immunizations when she left the hospital at 4.5 months old. Included in those were the triple shots.
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I did not have any of the above medications nor did I allow my child to have any immunizations at the hospital. They were and are pushing the hepatitis vaccine - you know, the one that you can only get by having unsafe sex and sharing needles. I just thought it was stupid to inject them with that vaccine. Didn't make any sense to me at all.

It's a hard thing to pin down....I do think that vaccines play some sort of a role.
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ofcourse its the mothers fault for allowing the child to receive vaccines.
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Hey jerk off, some of us didnt know then what we know now. I was 22 years old when my very premature daughter was born. I was only thinking about my 1 pound baby living, not questioning shots.
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look, ignoreance doesnt mean your not at fault.

its not about judgment its about mothers taking absolute responsibility for their children and preventing this from occuring in the first place.

we all know its the mmr that sends the children into the spectrum even the manufacturers studies indicated this, but it was the mothers who allowed them to be administered with blind faith by a third party they knew nothing about.

take the plunge into the responsibility and then realise the childs only barrier from harm is you.
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Hey jerk off, some of us didnt know then what we know now. I was 22 years old when my very premature daughter was born. I was only thinking about my 1 pound baby living, not questioning shots.
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Don't be hard on yourself...we can only do what we can.

What a blessing for you! 23 weeks is so very early.

Even so, my son is such a light in my life. Not everything in life should be perfect. :)
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Now a new Caltech study suggests that specific changes in an overactive immune system can indeed contribute to autism-like behaviors in mice, and that in some cases, this activation can be related to what a developing fetus experiences in the womb.

The results appear in a paper this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

"We have long suspected that the immune system plays a role in the development of autism spectrum disorder," says Paul Patterson, the Anne P. and Benjamin F. Biaggini Professor of Biological Sciences at Caltech, who led the work. "In our studies of a mouse model based on an environmental risk factor for autism, we find that the immune system of the mother is a key factor in the eventual abnormal behaviors in the offspring."


Now blaming Autism on the mother, while secretly paying millions in hush money. Why am I not surprised.

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who is blaming mothers?
sure, they are saying it has to do with the immune system OF the mother, but is it the mothers fault? uhhh no, no one said that, it would be retarded to say such a silly thing after reading this, no?

we are hardly in control of our own immune systems....
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Hey jerk off, some of us didnt know then what we know now. I was 22 years old when my very premature daughter was born. I was only thinking about my 1 pound baby living, not questioning shots.
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look, ignoreance doesnt mean your not at fault.

its not about judgment its about mothers taking absolute responsibility for their children and preventing this from occuring in the first place.

we all know its the mmr that sends the children into the spectrum even the manufacturers studies indicated this, but it was the mothers who allowed them to be administered with blind faith by a third party they knew nothing about.

take the plunge into the responsibility and then realise the childs only barrier from harm is you.
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LOL - you're so misinformed.

My child had the mmr vaccine and never changed a bit. He was the same kid when he was born as after he got the shot. And is the same kid today.

And there's no proof. If there were even a shred of evidence, the attorneys would be all over that one! Believe me when I say they are salivating waiting for any evidence to scientifically prove this connection.
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ofcourse its the mothers fault for allowing the child to receive vaccines.
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Hey jerk off, some of us didnt know then what we know now. I was 22 years old when my very premature daughter was born. I was only thinking about my 1 pound baby living, not questioning shots.
 Quoting: Junie


look, ignoreance doesnt mean your not at fault.

its not about judgment its about mothers taking absolute responsibility for their children and preventing this from occuring in the first place.

we all know its the mmr that sends the children into the spectrum even the manufacturers studies indicated this, but it was the mothers who allowed them to be administered with blind faith by a third party they knew nothing about.

take the plunge into the responsibility and then realise the childs only barrier from harm is you.
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We all know that? Maybe we didnt all know that 13 years ago. Autism wasnt talked about as much as it is now. Keep in mind that my daughter's central nervous system was exsposed to stimuli long before it was supposed to. And, there are not enough surviving 23 weekers alive to accurately predict their outcome. But, you sitting somewhere over in England seem to think you know it all, so whatever.


You're a real prick.
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Re: Autism-- Now it's the mothers fault!!
ofcourse its the mothers fault for allowing the child to receive vaccines.
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Hey jerk off, some of us didnt know then what we know now. I was 22 years old when my very premature daughter was born. I was only thinking about my 1 pound baby living, not questioning shots.
 Quoting: Junie


Don't be hard on yourself...we can only do what we can.

What a blessing for you! 23 weeks is so very early.

Even so, my son is such a light in my life. Not everything in life should be perfect. :)
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Thakyou! She is a tremendous blessing! She's shown us all how to see the world in amazing new ways :)
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Re: Autism-- Now it's the mothers fault!!
We almost lost our granddaughter to autism.
The day she received a MMR she went into this other world that no one could touch and wanted to drift off to sleep. You could flash your hand in front of her face and it was blank, no expression at all, as if she was in another world.
Would not even blink when you waved your hand right in front of eyes. Would not respond to her name, nothing. I would not let her go to sleep.

She was 18 months old and I was watching her that day, she had a low grade fever as expected, a lump on leg, which was not expected and began to seem lethargic and unresponsive to outside stimuli.

I saw her slipping away. I held her and prayed and began singing to her. After a little while of singing some of her favorite songs she seemed to come out of the place she had gone and began communicating with me again.
I just kept talking to her, I went around the whole house telling her what everything was. Door, window, wall, chair table, etc. until she seemed to come out of the what ever it was that grabbed a hold of her.
I know I spent at least two hours steadily interacting with her after she became alert again.

It was scary. She is fine now and drives her mama crazy like any normal child should.
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It has been theorized that our Pineal Glands activate at around 18 months old when the first batch of DMT is synthesized. It's entirely possible that what you witnessed was the 'birth' of your granddaughter's spirit. I envy you. I tried and tried to be around as often as possible to catch my daughters' time to no avail.

If certain toxins in vaccines are designed to disrupt this process, it's not a stretch to say you likely changed that little girl's life for the better more than anyone ever could or will. If she had slipped away, who's to know how long (if ever) it would take for her to reconnect with the source.

I think you will have a beautiful, lasting connection with your granddaughter and that you should sing to her as often as you can =)
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Your words brought tears to my eyes.
Ironic you should mention a "connection" for that child is 3 and half years old and a day does not go by that she does not drive her parents crazy wanting to call me or come to my house to see me.

They dropped by yesterday because she would not stop bugging her mama about wanting to come and see me.
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Re: Autism-- Now it's the mothers fault!!
ofcourse its the mothers fault for allowing the child to receive vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19949878


Hey jerk off, some of us didnt know then what we know now. I was 22 years old when my very premature daughter was born. I was only thinking about my 1 pound baby living, not questioning shots.
 Quoting: Junie


look, ignoreance doesnt mean your not at fault.

its not about judgment its about mothers taking absolute responsibility for their children and preventing this from occuring in the first place.

we all know its the mmr that sends the children into the spectrum even the manufacturers studies indicated this, but it was the mothers who allowed them to be administered with blind faith by a third party they knew nothing about.

take the plunge into the responsibility and then realise the childs only barrier from harm is you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19949878


LOL - you're so misinformed.

My child had the mmr vaccine and never changed a bit. He was the same kid when he was born as after he got the shot. And is the same kid today.

And there's no proof. If there were even a shred of evidence, the attorneys would be all over that one! Believe me when I say they are salivating waiting for any evidence to scientifically prove this connection.
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They are, you just do not know about it.


Thread: "Vaccine Court" Quitely Compensates Vaccine INJURY Cases

Last Edited by Merci on 07/17/2012 04:36 PM
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Re: Autism-- Now it's the mothers fault!!
ofcourse its the mothers fault for allowing the child to receive vaccines.
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Hey jerk off, some of us didnt know then what we know now. I was 22 years old when my very premature daughter was born. I was only thinking about my 1 pound baby living, not questioning shots.
 Quoting: Junie


yeah, i agree Junie!!! <3<3
i was a young mother too and i did all the things the doctor said. then my son had severe reactions to his vaccines. that is what woke me up to EVERYTHING.
a lot of people trust doctors, and who can REALLY blame them.
we should be able to trust doctors and realizing that we cannot is a way for people to wake up. but to demonize a mother or to in any way make her feel like she did something wrong when she was doing what she thought was BEST is absurd and absolutely WRONG!

i don't think vaccines are the pure and only cause for autism.
i don't know if there IS a SINGLE cause of autism.

now, i didn't get my second child ANY shots and she has never been sick. live and LEARN. that is the point.
and thank god for mothers who care and LEARN, like Junie. <33





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