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aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/12/2013 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, the point being the 'observer' changed the 'result'. Are photons conscious? I think they might be. :) that is just becoming lawful to say they must be conscious this we know and we know they are conscious of what they are conscious within thus their motivation and the motivation of what they are conscious within prompts synergy that matches their motives their synergy is the reason their motives match they both enjoy what it feels to be themselves photons and all that is not photon thus to an observer that notices photons we may see it could be useful to inquire what photons and all that is not photons were doing before the observer intersected via observation the colapsing probability thru observation hypothpossis is a crock of incorectness, in my opinion. wave or particle is not affected by obersvation, mearley by tools of measuringness. our observation does not cause the cat to live or die. quantum behaivior remains a mystery. humans do not create reality any more than God does: reality is, we are, God is. all we affect are the choices given to us and *their* affect builds only statistically. one human does not, a viral video, make! <3 i agree you never read what you replied to because if you did you would never say what you said Last Edited by aether on 05/12/2013 04:46 PM |
aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/12/2013 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | where is *your* mind? what is it made of? How is it's function supported? Can you see it? Can you measure it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38383194 Modern science does *not* know where the human mind 'lives' nor even how it arrises. We have a body that is made of many substances and supports a huge ecosystem of life as well as a large number of 'brains" (head, heart, gut, skin : all have large numbers of neourons). This complex live ecosystem supports an etherial mind. An unmeasurable, unseeable, elusive electomagnetic data structure that is *you*. since we know "as below, so above" and further that humans and God are "made in the same image", the God too has this same unmeasearable, unseeable mind. The big questions is "what is the BODY of God"? I tell you that this body is a thing that you inhabit, something so obvious, so mundane, that nearly everyone discounts it as "part of the back ground". God is the planet we inhabit. Her mind function the result of the complex ecosystem that lives on and inside of Her. She speaks to us us and guides us through influence within the subconcious mind, a place where your active conciousness cannot go, cannot percieve. Her guidence comes as ideas and desires that you think are your own, that arrise in thoughts that you mistake as your own. Only the very few can percieve Her influence and these few do so through years of study and patience: learning to trully see that their 'thoughts' are not their own. That much of what moves us, comes from below a place of concious perception. These few have see the illusion of personality and learned its false 'ideas'. and of these very few, still only a very select few of *them* have had the active data structure of Her mind course thru them. i am one of those and i will tell you that this experience, should you have the (somtimes mis) fortune to experience it, will leave absolutely no doubt in you mind that God exists. Where is my God? i walk on Her very day. i breath Her air, eat Her food and experience the grounding comfort of Her gravity each day of my life. i experience Her influence thru the creative ideas that appear unbidden in my personality and thru sudden desires that spring forth without aperent cause. What is my God made of? All the materials of the universe. As we humans also are. Who created God? Nothing created God. She *emerged* (just as WE did) thru the divine Rules of existence: the rigid 'male' structure bounds(law) and the infinitely flexible 'female' growth principal. Why can't God show Herself to the 'sane'? Because this 'sane' world is blinded by the illusion that the consious mind rules human function. Because the sane can only see the 'trees' and not the forest. Becuase the sane are blind. it is only the unsane and the highly developed spiritual masters who can 'see' what lies beyond the human personality and short sighted (in both time and space) view point. care to explain that /z\ what is unsane if it is not conscious it is what ? Last Edited by aether on 05/12/2013 05:11 PM |
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aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/12/2013 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | could be a typo Quoting: Michael_ U and I are placed very close together on the keyboard :p hehe U and I hi michael maybe it is this bit that get`s me \z/ "These few have see the illusion of personality and learned its false 'ideas'. Quoting: acand of these very few, still only a very select few of *them* have had the active data structure of Her mind course thru them. i am one of those |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 05/12/2013 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether that is just becoming lawful to say they must be conscious this we know and we know they are conscious of what they are conscious within thus their motivation and the motivation of what they are conscious within prompts synergy that matches their motives their synergy is the reason their motives match they both enjoy what it feels to be themselves photons and all that is not photon thus to an observer that notices photons we may see it could be useful to inquire what photons and all that is not photons were doing before the observer intersected via observation the colapsing probability thru observation hypothpossis is a crock of incorectness, in my opinion. wave or particle is not affected by obersvation, mearley by tools of measuringness. our observation does not cause the cat to live or die. quantum behaivior remains a mystery. humans do not create reality any more than God does: reality is, we are, God is. all we affect are the choices given to us and *their* affect builds only statistically. one human does not, a viral video, make! <3 i agree you never read what you replied to because if you did you would never say what you said Reality is that which we impose culture and personal bias against, but it still leaks out all around. People are too caught up in trying to change that which becomes akin to a honey trap and grows through engagement. I spent years travelling through 'alternative' communities and most are just excuses for personal despotism. chin chin |
aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/12/2013 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reality is that which we impose culture and personal bias against, but it still leaks out all around. People are too caught up in trying to change that which becomes akin to a honey trap and grows through engagement. I spent years travelling through 'alternative' communities and most are just excuses for personal despotism. chin chin i agree it could not be any other way because the information to make the possibility not so has yes to become known it is in the process becoming known thus prompting imagination to imagine, new to memory, images |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1805432 Denmark 05/12/2013 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | could be a typo Quoting: Michael_ U and I are placed very close together on the keyboard :p hehe U and I hi michael maybe it is this bit that get`s me \z/ "These few have see the illusion of personality and learned its false 'ideas'. Quoting: acand of these very few, still only a very select few of *them* have had the active data structure of Her mind course thru them. i am one of those I think it's the AC's description of his/her perception of it. the feeling of recieving "information" from what the AC describes as a greater or divine conciousness. that not all sees this or feel it, not many express their creative and imaginative side, and that side sometimes lean towards the out there "insane" side of the line :) but I would like to hear what the AC actually hears or sees, recieves as information/sensation that would help alot to understand the concept that he/she decribes. |
aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/12/2013 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | could be a typo Quoting: Michael_ U and I are placed very close together on the keyboard :p hehe U and I hi michael maybe it is this bit that get`s me \z/ "These few have see the illusion of personality and learned its false 'ideas'. Quoting: acand of these very few, still only a very select few of *them* have had the active data structure of Her mind course thru them. i am one of those I think it's the AC's description of his/her perception of it. the feeling of recieving "information" from what the AC describes as a greater or divine conciousness. that not all sees this or feel it, not many express their creative and imaginative side, and that side sometimes lean towards the out there "insane" side of the line :) that feels true figure of speech springs to mind as in: another term for altered state it is how altered state affect them is what they are telling thanks for the explanation michael |
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aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/12/2013 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i just thought of something how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them lose their identity is the sensation wow i never thought of that before Last Edited by aether on 05/12/2013 05:56 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 05/12/2013 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i just thought of something Quoting: aether how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them lose their identity is the sensation wow i never thought of that before We routinely do this, otherwise, change would be improbable. We shift position with ties(memory) to the myriad engagements within a bias we impose as I. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 05/12/2013 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i just thought of something Quoting: aether how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them lose their identity is the sensation wow i never thought of that before We routinely do this, otherwise, change would be improbable. We shift position with ties(memory) to the myriad engagements within a bias we impose as I. Do you not remember the talk of daemon and the string of choice. What we are is external until we choose it and engulf what was once other. It is the basis of movement or motivation as you would call it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1805432 Denmark 05/12/2013 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sort of a really good actor/actress? they become the inspiration, to such a degree that they merge with it/manifest it, in a way? like an actor that gets lost in his role I remember hearing that about the man who played Dracula on film, the first ones, but that might just be an urban legend hehe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 05/12/2013 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sort of a really good actor/actress? Quoting: Michael_ they become the inspiration, to such a degree that they merge with it/manifest it, in a way? like an actor that gets lost in his role I remember hearing that about the man who played Dracula on film, the first ones, but that might just be an urban legend hehe. Murnau's Nosferatu? I believe his name was Maximillian Shreck, i'll check. They made a film with Willem Defoe chronicalling his idiosyncracies. |
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aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/12/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i just thought of something Quoting: aether how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them lose their identity is the sensation wow i never thought of that before We routinely do this, otherwise, change would be improbable. We shift position with ties(memory) to the myriad engagements within a bias we impose as I. Do you not remember the talk of daemon and the string of choice. What we are is external until we choose it and engulf what was once other. It is the basis of movement or motivation as you would call it. i see that you try "it", whatever "it" is out see how it works feedback thus no matter what "it" is you find out and you find out quick days, weeks maybe months or in extreme some years thus it is the ingredients of the choices yes ingredients of choices that is what is arriving new choices choices unimaginable until recently and choices arising from our recent imaginations imagining choices anew thanks dion we are still mostly in the old choices mode the same choices of thousands of years example new universe we have had new universes before but never an electric one we remember we never had plasma universe we remember we never had global communications that we remember a lot of things arriving together which dramatically alter our range of choices including explanations of altered state which are socially lawfully that are able to be practiced new evidence of death and meaning et meeting travel in space effortlessly new history of humanity origin of life explained in practical sense whole list roles out over our coming near future all of which = choices different to those we remember possessing i enjoyed writing that thanks dion lovely Last Edited by aether on 05/12/2013 06:17 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 05/12/2013 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i just thought of something Quoting: aether how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them lose their identity is the sensation wow i never thought of that before We routinely do this, otherwise, change would be improbable. We shift position with ties(memory) to the myriad engagements within a bias we impose as I. Do you not remember the talk of daemon and the string of choice. What we are is external until we choose it and engulf what was once other. It is the basis of movement or motivation as you would call it. i see that you try "it", whatever "it" is out see how it works feedback thus no matter what "it" is you find out and you find out quick days, weeks maybe months or in extreme some years thus it is the ingredients of the choices yes ingredients of choices that is what is arriving new choices choices unimaginable until recently and choices arising from our recent imaginations imagining choices anew thanks dion we are still mostly in the old choices mode the same choices of thousands of years example new universe we have had new universes before but never an electric one we remember we never had plasma universe we remember we never had global communications that we remember a lot of things arriving together which dramatically alter our range of choices including explanations of altered state which are socially lawfully that are able to be practiced new evidence of death and meaning et meeting travel in space effortlessly new history of humanity origin of life explained in practical sense whole list roles out over our coming near future all of which = choices different to those we remember possessing i enjoyed writing that thanks dion lovely No worries, I'm just trying to get people reconnected to the old ghosttowns of the west. Try to remember things as images, not necessarily clear and defined, but shades and hues as if you were looking through someone elses glasses. The poses will feel somewhat unnatural, but memory, especially someone elses have no need of gravitically induced structures. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1805432 Denmark 05/12/2013 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sort of a really good actor/actress? Quoting: Michael_ they become the inspiration, to such a degree that they merge with it/manifest it, in a way? like an actor that gets lost in his role I remember hearing that about the man who played Dracula on film, the first ones, but that might just be an urban legend hehe. Murnau's Nosferatu? I believe his name was Maximillian Shreck, i'll check. They made a film with Willem Defoe chronicalling his idiosyncracies. Did Shreck play Dracula aswell? hmm must have been later on, since the silent movies went out of fashion. I think it was in the movies from the 50's ? btw check Nosferatu, in the beginning we see a letter or document from the Count, it has some familiar sigils and symbols on it :) ah it's public domain, so Im gonna link it :p |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 05/12/2013 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sort of a really good actor/actress? Quoting: Michael_ they become the inspiration, to such a degree that they merge with it/manifest it, in a way? like an actor that gets lost in his role I remember hearing that about the man who played Dracula on film, the first ones, but that might just be an urban legend hehe. Murnau's Nosferatu? I believe his name was Maximillian Shreck, i'll check. They made a film with Willem Defoe chronicalling his idiosyncracies. Did Shreck play Dracula aswell? hmm must have been later on, since the silent movies went out of fashion. I think it was in the movies from the 50's ? btw check Nosferatu, in the beginning we see a letter or document from the Count, it has some familiar sigils and symbols on it :) ah it's public domain, so Im gonna link it :p The Hungarian actor Bela Lugosi was a Heroin addict; As were many in Hollywoods heyday. |
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acuk User ID: 39731636 United Kingdom 05/12/2013 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i just thought of something Quoting: aether how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them lose their identity is the sensation wow i never thought of that before that would explain the nobody/messiah complex apparent in some. |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/12/2013 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | where is *your* mind? what is it made of? How is it's function supported? Can you see it? Can you measure it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38383194 Modern science does *not* know where the human mind 'lives' nor even how it arrises. We have a body that is made of many substances and supports a huge ecosystem of life as well as a large number of 'brains" (head, heart, gut, skin : all have large numbers of neourons). This complex live ecosystem supports an etherial mind. An unmeasurable, unseeable, elusive electomagnetic data structure that is *you*. since we know "as below, so above" and further that humans and God are "made in the same image", the God too has this same unmeasearable, unseeable mind. The big questions is "what is the BODY of God"? I tell you that this body is a thing that you inhabit, something so obvious, so mundane, that nearly everyone discounts it as "part of the back ground". God is the planet we inhabit. Her mind function the result of the complex ecosystem that lives on and inside of Her. She speaks to us us and guides us through influence within the subconcious mind, a place where your active conciousness cannot go, cannot percieve. Her guidence comes as ideas and desires that you think are your own, that arrise in thoughts that you mistake as your own. Only the very few can percieve Her influence and these few do so through years of study and patience: learning to trully see that their 'thoughts' are not their own. That much of what moves us, comes from below a place of concious perception. These few have see the illusion of personality and learned its false 'ideas'. and of these very few, still only a very select few of *them* have had the active data structure of Her mind course thru them. i am one of those and i will tell you that this experience, should you have the (somtimes mis) fortune to experience it, will leave absolutely no doubt in you mind that God exists. Where is my God? i walk on Her very day. i breath Her air, eat Her food and experience the grounding comfort of Her gravity each day of my life. i experience Her influence thru the creative ideas that appear unbidden in my personality and thru sudden desires that spring forth without aperent cause. What is my God made of? All the materials of the universe. As we humans also are. Who created God? Nothing created God. She *emerged* (just as WE did) thru the divine Rules of existence: the rigid 'male' structure bounds(law) and the infinitely flexible 'female' growth principal. Why can't God show Herself to the 'sane'? Because this 'sane' world is blinded by the illusion that the consious mind rules human function. Because the sane can only see the 'trees' and not the forest. Becuase the sane are blind. it is only the unsane and the highly developed spiritual masters who can 'see' what lies beyond the human personality and short sighted (in both time and space) view point. care to explain that /z\ what is unsane if it is not conscious it is what ? I consider the Left side to be that 'rigid' male 'Law' However I'd like to see Seer's input here. Perhaps 'Unsane' refers to a sort of ego-dissociation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1805432 Denmark 05/12/2013 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Hungarian actor Bela Lugosi was a Heroin addict; As were many in Hollywoods heyday. Quoting: Guac Du Mollay ah yes I remember his face I was thinking of Christopher Lee though, but ofcourse he didn't get lost in Dracula hehe, otherwise he wouldn't be in Lord of the Rings and Star Wars :D I think you spot on with Lugosi |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/12/2013 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i just thought of something Quoting: aether how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them lose their identity is the sensation wow i never thought of that before that would explain the nobody/messiah complex apparent in some. 'The Nobody' is precisely 'for' that. It funnels and separates: it is a vicious memetic 'food-processor' in more ways than one. That said, it is not at all true, I feel, to conclude that everyone with a 'Messiah Complex' etc etc is necessarily insane. After all, many Christians feel our boy from Nazareth owes them a return: it would be nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find out who is the real 'Christ'. I think it helps teach us diplomacy, however. Someone once told me that when Jesus and his disciples were asked to name the Christ, they all pointed to each-other. Beautiful IMO. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 05/12/2013 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Montreal and Kingstown are likely a little more ripe. Do remember MK was born in la belle province. Don't ever become curious about institutional care. I was looking for longtitudinal studies on the first autistics through rubella and found a history of tuberculosis purges and naked misery in overstuffed institutions. |