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Tupa

Tupa is the name of the supreme god in the Guaraní creation myth. Tupa is also the word in the Guaraní language that means "god". Tupã is considered to be the creator of the universe, and more specifically the creator of light.

His residence is the Sun


Marriage

Before the creation of the human race, Tupã wedded the goddess Arasy, the mother of the sky whose home was the Moon. According to the myth, Tupã and Arasy descended upon the Earth one morning after their wedding, and together they created the rivers and the seas, the forests, the stars and all the living beings of the universe. It is said that the location they stood while creating these things was atop a hill in Areguá, a small city in Paraguay near the capital of Asunción.

Tupã and Arasy met through a constellation of stars, and it took them years to find one another.

Tupã was known for his personality, and this is how many people remember him. He was a very seductive/sexual god. This led to his many children. Tupã and Arasy counselled the humans to live peacefully, to procreate, and to live in love.

Tupã then created the spirits of good and evil, Angatupyry and Tau, left them to guide the people down one path or another and departed back into the heavens.
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i think that is quite a nice story
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Interstellar to Telluric to Boilita (sp?) energies.
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Thread: Stellar Winds Electrify Exoplanets...Heating Their Interior
This is pretty cool. They have found that stellar winds can heat up exoplanets. So, it's not just the close proximity to stars that can create heat for celestial bodies, but currents of electricity! And, the heat is delivered into the interior of the giant exoplanets as well.

Stellar Winds May Electrify Exoplanets
The strangest class of exoplanets found to date might be even stranger than astronomers have thought. A new model suggests that they are partially heated by electric currents linked to their host stars. Florida Gulf Coast University (FGCU) astronomer Dr. Derek Buzasi has proposed a model in which electric currents arising from the interaction between the planet's magnetic field and the hot charged wind from the star flow through the interior of the planet, heating it like an electric toaster....

... Many of the planets found by the Kepler mission are of a type known as "hot Jupiters." While about the same size as Jupiter in our own solar system, these exoplanets are located much closer to their host stars than even Mercury is to our Sun, meaning that their atmospheres are heated to temperatures of thousands of degrees.

One problem scientists have had in understanding the hot Jupiters is that many are inflated to sizes even larger than expected for planets so close to their stars.

Explanations for the "puffiness" of these exoplanets generally involve some kind of extra heating for the planet. Proposed sources for the extra heat have included tides and interactions between the high-speed winds and magnetic fields expected on these planets, but none of these models successfully explains the observation that more magnetically active stars tend to have puffier hot Jupiters orbiting around them.

"This kind of electric heating doesn't happen very effectively on planets in our solar system because their outer atmospheres are cold and don't conduct electricity very well," says Buzasi.

"But heat up the atmosphere by moving the planet closer to its star and now very large currents can flow, which delivers extra heat to the deep interior of the planet - just where we need it." More magnetically active stars have more energetic winds and would provide larger currents and more heat to their planets.
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Tupa

Tupa is the name of the supreme god in the Guaraní creation myth. Tupa is also the word in the Guaraní language that means "god". Tupã is considered to be the creator of the universe, and more specifically the creator of light.

His residence is the Sun


Marriage

Before the creation of the human race, Tupã wedded the goddess Arasy, the mother of the sky whose home was the Moon. According to the myth, Tupã and Arasy descended upon the Earth one morning after their wedding, and together they created the rivers and the seas, the forests, the stars and all the living beings of the universe. It is said that the location they stood while creating these things was atop a hill in Areguá, a small city in Paraguay near the capital of Asunción.

Tupã and Arasy met through a constellation of stars, and it took them years to find one another.

Tupã was known for his personality, and this is how many people remember him. He was a very seductive/sexual god. This led to his many children. Tupã and Arasy counselled the humans to live peacefully, to procreate, and to live in love.

Tupã then created the spirits of good and evil, Angatupyry and Tau, left them to guide the people down one path or another and departed back into the heavens.
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i think that is quite a nice story
 Quoting: aether


Yes.

Similar in theme to many others.

Guaraní are a group of culturally related indigenous peoples of South America. They are distinguished from the related Tupi by their use of the Guaraní language. The traditional range of the Guaraní people is in what is now Paraguay between the Uruguay River and lower Paraguay River, the Corrientes and Entre Ríos Provinces of Argentina, southern Brazil, and parts of Uruguay and Bolivia.

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Interstellar to Telluric to Boilita (sp?) energies.
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Thread: Stellar Winds Electrify Exoplanets...Heating Their Interior
This is pretty cool. They have found that stellar winds can heat up exoplanets. So, it's not just the close proximity to stars that can create heat for celestial bodies, but currents of electricity! And, the heat is delivered into the interior of the giant exoplanets as well.

Stellar Winds May Electrify Exoplanets
The strangest class of exoplanets found to date might be even stranger than astronomers have thought. A new model suggests that they are partially heated by electric currents linked to their host stars. Florida Gulf Coast University (FGCU) astronomer Dr. Derek Buzasi has proposed a model in which electric currents arising from the interaction between the planet's magnetic field and the hot charged wind from the star flow through the interior of the planet, heating it like an electric toaster....

... Many of the planets found by the Kepler mission are of a type known as "hot Jupiters." While about the same size as Jupiter in our own solar system, these exoplanets are located much closer to their host stars than even Mercury is to our Sun, meaning that their atmospheres are heated to temperatures of thousands of degrees.

One problem scientists have had in understanding the hot Jupiters is that many are inflated to sizes even larger than expected for planets so close to their stars.

Explanations for the "puffiness" of these exoplanets generally involve some kind of extra heating for the planet. Proposed sources for the extra heat have included tides and interactions between the high-speed winds and magnetic fields expected on these planets, but none of these models successfully explains the observation that more magnetically active stars tend to have puffier hot Jupiters orbiting around them.

"This kind of electric heating doesn't happen very effectively on planets in our solar system because their outer atmospheres are cold and don't conduct electricity very well," says Buzasi.

"But heat up the atmosphere by moving the planet closer to its star and now very large currents can flow, which delivers extra heat to the deep interior of the planet - just where we need it." More magnetically active stars have more energetic winds and would provide larger currents and more heat to their planets.
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i was just reading your thread

spot on sept thumbs
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Tupa

Tupa is the name of the supreme god in the Guaraní creation myth. Tupa is also the word in the Guaraní language that means "god". Tupã is considered to be the creator of the universe, and more specifically the creator of light.

His residence is the Sun


Marriage

Before the creation of the human race, Tupã wedded the goddess Arasy, the mother of the sky whose home was the Moon. According to the myth, Tupã and Arasy descended upon the Earth one morning after their wedding, and together they created the rivers and the seas, the forests, the stars and all the living beings of the universe. It is said that the location they stood while creating these things was atop a hill in Areguá, a small city in Paraguay near the capital of Asunción.

Tupã and Arasy met through a constellation of stars, and it took them years to find one another.

Tupã was known for his personality, and this is how many people remember him. He was a very seductive/sexual god. This led to his many children. Tupã and Arasy counselled the humans to live peacefully, to procreate, and to live in love.

Tupã then created the spirits of good and evil, Angatupyry and Tau, left them to guide the people down one path or another and departed back into the heavens.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Seer777


i think that is quite a nice story
 Quoting: aether


Yes.

Similar in theme to many others.

Guaraní are a group of culturally related indigenous peoples of South America. They are distinguished from the related Tupi by their use of the Guaraní language. The traditional range of the Guaraní people is in what is now Paraguay between the Uruguay River and lower Paraguay River, the Corrientes and Entre Ríos Provinces of Argentina, southern Brazil, and parts of Uruguay and Bolivia.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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it feels soft and nice in that
so my question is
why did the awkward lilith, adam, eve, serpent etc. local story of our middle east
become popular at all

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How is the heat from Tummo created?

Anyone else get 'hot hands' last night? It was quite intense for me for a time...



Kundalini-yoga offered a range of techniques to harness the powerful psycho-physical energy coursing through the body... Most people simply allow the energy to churn in a cauldron of chaotic thoughts and emotions or dissipate the energy in a superficial pursuit of pleasure, but a yogi or yogini consciously accumulates and then directs it for specified purposes. This energy generates warmth as it accumulates and becomes an inner fire or inner heat (candālī) that [potentially] burns away the dross of ignorance and ego-clinging.

Numerous non-buddhist tantras of the Shakta and Shaiva traditions speak of Kundalini, which is generally described as a coiled energy at the base of the spine, at the first chakra.

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How is the heat from Tummo created?

Anyone else get 'hot hands' last night? It was quite intense for me for a time...



Kundalini-yoga offered a range of techniques to harness the powerful psycho-physical energy coursing through the body... Most people simply allow the energy to churn in a cauldron of chaotic thoughts and emotions or dissipate the energy in a superficial pursuit of pleasure, but a yogi or yogini consciously accumulates and then directs it for specified purposes. This energy generates warmth as it accumulates and becomes an inner fire or inner heat (candālī) that [potentially] burns away the dross of ignorance and ego-clinging.

Numerous non-buddhist tantras of the Shakta and Shaiva traditions speak of Kundalini, which is generally described as a coiled energy at the base of the spine, at the first chakra.
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hands, feet and face
noticeable warmth that feels healthily nice
have it still on face but have been in sun quite a bit today
last night it all occurred well after sunset
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Yes.

Similar in theme to many others.

Guaraní are a group of culturally related indigenous peoples of South America. They are distinguished from the related Tupi by their use of the Guaraní language. The traditional range of the Guaraní people is in what is now Paraguay between the Uruguay River and lower Paraguay River, the Corrientes and Entre Ríos Provinces of Argentina, southern Brazil, and parts of Uruguay and Bolivia.

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it feels soft and nice in that
so my question is
why did the awkward lilith, adam, eve, serpent etc. local story of our middle east
become popular at all

1dunno1
 Quoting: aether


They have that too..

Creation of human race

After the creation of all the things in the earth, Tupã set to creating the first human couple on the earth. For his creation, Tupã used a mixture of clay, juice extracted from yerba mate, blood from the Short-tailed Nighthawk, the leaves of several kinds of plants, and finally a centipede. He made a paste of this mixture, using the waters from a nearby spring that would become Lake Ypacaraí. From this paste Tupã created a pair of statues in his image, and left them in the sun to dry and filled them with life. The newly created humans were placed in front of the gods, and the woman was named Sypave (literally "mother of the people") by Arasy, and the man was named Rupave (literally "father of the people") by Tupã

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and i was prompted to walk a lot cos it felt nice to be moving, complemented the sensation as in:
doing something physical
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Yes.

Similar in theme to many others.

Guaraní are a group of culturally related indigenous peoples of South America. They are distinguished from the related Tupi by their use of the Guaraní language. The traditional range of the Guaraní people is in what is now Paraguay between the Uruguay River and lower Paraguay River, the Corrientes and Entre Ríos Provinces of Argentina, southern Brazil, and parts of Uruguay and Bolivia.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Seer777


it feels soft and nice in that
so my question is
why did the awkward lilith, adam, eve, serpent etc. local story of our middle east
become popular at all

1dunno1
 Quoting: aether


They have that too..

Creation of human race

After the creation of all the things in the earth, Tupã set to creating the first human couple on the earth. For his creation, Tupã used a mixture of clay, juice extracted from yerba mate, blood from the Short-tailed Nighthawk, the leaves of several kinds of plants, and finally a centipede. He made a paste of this mixture, using the waters from a nearby spring that would become Lake Ypacaraí. From this paste Tupã created a pair of statues in his image, and left them in the sun to dry and filled them with life. The newly created humans were placed in front of the gods, and the woman was named Sypave (literally "mother of the people") by Arasy, and the man was named Rupave (literally "father of the people") by Tupã

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Seer777


oh
they do indeed

lovely

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does it strike you these are happier memories
it does me
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does it strike you these are happier memories
it does me
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oh the desert

the middle east got covered in sand
unhappy memories
other locations retained hospitable environments
in the middle east they had to explain paradise getting all that sand dumped on it

yes

hence the sad story and blame wrapped into it
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you mentioned sand before seer and we explained it
do you remember
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you mentioned sand before seer and we explained it
do you remember
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but we never linked it to the reason for the sad creation story of that locality
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and i was prompted to walk a lot cos it felt nice to be moving, complemented the sensation as in:
doing something physical
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I have been outside near constantly for the last week. Trimming hedges, and general clean up. I think I am the most tan I have ever been.

lol.

I sit in the Sun off and on all day. It's wonderful. The weather is perfect.

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hi

This is like something I would do.

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good morning

that /z\ will prompt seer to miss the capstone tounge
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Good morning.


It prompted me to ponder on desertification.

However, stunning view at the top indeed.

:)
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good morning

........The Sahara is the world's largest hot desert. At over 9,000,000 square kilometres (3,500,000 square miles), it covers most of Northern Africa, making it almost as large as the United States or the continent of Europe. The desert stretches from the Red Sea, including parts of the Mediterranean coasts, to the outskirts of the Atlantic Ocean. Some of the sand dunes can reach 180 meters (600 ft.) in height. Mixed in with the oceanic sands there are large rock formations, boulders, stones and pebbles. Some have compared areas of the Sahara to the surface of Mars.

The sands of the Sahara hold many secrets. It wasn't always a vast desolate ocean of sand; around 5,000 years ago it was a very different terrain. It was a sub-tropical paradise where deer, hippos and elephants were hunted and giraffes and rhinoceros roamed the area. With a plentiful supply of food, thousands of hunter-gatherers flocked to live in this lush savannah.
These facts are evident from the discovery of hundreds of human graves and numerous rock paintings , depicting people hunting and even swimming. Furthermore, radar images taken by the NASA space shuttle show that beneath the sand are networks of rivers, once spanning the entire Sahara. North Africa was once alive with people! What happened to this lush green world?........................

................Where did the Sahara sand come from? It did not exist 6,000 years ago. Experts are proposing that vast oceans of sand formed in less than 3,300 years. This is impossible because Saharan sand is some of the oldest on the planet. Putting this into context means that an area the size of the US has been covered in a vast sea of sand in what has to be the blink of an eye in geological terms. This makes no sense because the time frame for the formation of the sand does not allow it according to consensus theories. If the adjoining deserts swathing out across the Middle East and Asia are also considered, this equates to an area twice the size of the US. Where did all this sand come from?............
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popping to store tounge
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you mentioned sand before seer and we explained it
do you remember
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Vaguely.

The 'desert' however has poignant meaning to me.

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does it strike you these are happier memories
it does me
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oh the desert

the middle east got covered in sand
unhappy memories
other locations retained hospitable environments
in the middle east they had to explain paradise getting all that sand dumped on it

yes

hence the sad story and blame wrapped into it
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Likely the same story that strew vitreous humeur upon it's surface.

It doesn't take long to suck the juice out and leave a dessicated ruin.

Maya, Aztec, Egyptian ; Ostentation tends to breed Ignorance.
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does it strike you these are happier memories
it does me
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oh the desert

the middle east got covered in sand
unhappy memories
other locations retained hospitable environments
in the middle east they had to explain paradise getting all that sand dumped on it

yes

hence the sad story and blame wrapped into it
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There is also this which the st louis thread might like:

[link to dna-explained.com]

Basically says that people that get their blood test for genetic testing and have the middle eastern dna % could in fact be native american(southern indian example cherokee, choctaw, etc...).

Reason st louis thread might like it is because there have been alleged hebrew artifacts in the usa.
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does it strike you these are happier memories
it does me
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oh the desert

the middle east got covered in sand
unhappy memories
other locations retained hospitable environments
in the middle east they had to explain paradise getting all that sand dumped on it

yes

hence the sad story and blame wrapped into it
 Quoting: aether


There is also this which the st louis thread might like:

[link to dna-explained.com]

Basically says that people that get their blood test for genetic testing and have the middle eastern dna % could in fact be native american(southern indian example cherokee, choctaw, etc...).

Reason st louis thread might like it is because there have been alleged hebrew artifacts in the usa.
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Our Dna was choked to a point of perhaps 50 individuals.

Thus our diversity is fairly limited and likely still on the premature cusp of flowering.
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does it strike you these are happier memories
it does me
 Quoting: aether


oh the desert

the middle east got covered in sand
unhappy memories
other locations retained hospitable environments
in the middle east they had to explain paradise getting all that sand dumped on it

yes

hence the sad story and blame wrapped into it
 Quoting: aether


There is also this which the st louis thread might like:

[link to dna-explained.com]

Basically says that people that get their blood test for genetic testing and have the middle eastern dna % could in fact be native american(southern indian example cherokee, choctaw, etc...).

Reason st louis thread might like it is because there have been alleged hebrew artifacts in the usa.
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Our Dna was choked to a point of perhaps 50 individuals.

Thus our diversity is fairly limited and likely still on the premature cusp of flowering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8307038


The Bottle Neck
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i think we you consider the emotional impact of the middle east sand event upon the personalities of the indigenous people
not only was their paradise taken from them, it was replaced with a most inhospitable one
thus we discover marduk arose there

There was no plot against Abzu earlier on, it was a new invention, a reaction to something going on in human society. So by the time Babylon rose and Marduk was created, something traumatic happened to the human psyche perhaps? War, strife, civilization etc. Marduk is a complete fucking asshole and the stereotype for every bully, tyrant or abusive jerk that ever lived - and he is in every single human. So that's our collective demon....
 Quoting: occult


where could the marduk personality go once it formed in our middle east
it could not go far down into africa cos they kept jungle
, very hard to penetrate
it could go around the mediterranean and into europe, nothing in it`s way, up to russia, central asia,

yes
it could spread, even to america`s over time
seems jungle environment slows it down best
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how angry, bitter, revengeful do you become when everything you love is taken away and you remain alive to experience it
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how angry, bitter, revengeful do you become when everything you love is taken away and you remain alive to experience it
 Quoting: aether


It depends on the individual.

And would be as varied as the winds.

As with all trial.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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how angry, bitter, revengeful do you become when everything you love is taken away and you remain alive to experience it
 Quoting: aether


and how do you feel when you discover other possess what you once lost just the other side of your domain
a domain now dead compared to how it was
what do you feel when you travel to other lands that are just as your once was

marduk is an interesting personality to meet
we have never met him before

seems we are now
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it feels like
no satisfactory explanation thus far discovered
thus the passion of memory continuous to burn deep

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it feels like
no satisfactory explanation thus far discovered
thus the passion of memory continuous to burn deep
 Quoting: aether


what about memory blocks
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how angry, bitter, revengeful do you become when everything you love is taken away and you remain alive to experience it
 Quoting: aether


It depends on the individual.

And would be as varied as the winds.

As with all trial.
 Quoting: Seer777


yes

seems more focused that varied
like it is within the varied
one of the various

yes
one of the noticeable various
not noticeable enough to be all
not unnoticeable enough to be forgotten
yes that feels better

in it`s place

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