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Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 08/10/2013 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious Lol, I just want the tour bus to show up and everything to be that little bit different. I don't ask for much. But, sometimes it feels like I have to build it quantum construct by quantum construct. Maybe the fruit will taste that little bit sweeter. ;) It will. Being outside your thoughts and breaching that construct with a virgin mind, it is as sweet as honey, and of a shape that creates it's pervasive honeycomb. Memory is unfortunately the great distortion. It's much like we can smell and taste the intercessionary fields through their action(chemical effect), but once we move (breach silence) (alter relative value) we lose the vague subtleties of our interaction within it. This is an associative of olfactory induced memory being the thickest of activating catalysts. Ah, I want to disagree with you so bad. Memory is not accurate...far from it, unfortunately, and only creates the thoughts we think. But smell, the olfactory response, is potent. Visual is less dimensional. Hearing is less trusting. Touch is elusive to memory in any meaningful way. Taste is nearly non-inclusive. Now, the sixth sense. That is something to be reckoned with. I think that, at the very least, memories can be reduced to bare truth. We just need to take into account the alteration of the thought caused by the ego... |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 08/10/2013 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good evening everyone. Quoting: Seer777 I have been granted the night off. I have been catching up on the thread. Wonderful conversation. :) Hi, it's not me really Hello Billy. Is it your daughter you speak of? If so that is wonderful. I was speaking of past action 2 days ago and said, One can not change the past. One can only rectify... You seem much lighter. As your mood on the the 'riddle thread' was quite brooding. I am happy you have found some peace. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14874606 United States 08/10/2013 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Septenary Spirals It will. Being outside your thoughts and breaching that construct with a virgin mind, it is as sweet as honey, and of a shape that creates it's pervasive honeycomb. Memory is unfortunately the great distortion. It's much like we can smell and taste the intercessionary fields through their action(chemical effect), but once we move (breach silence) (alter relative value) we lose the vague subtleties of our interaction within it. This is an associative of olfactory induced memory being the thickest of activating catalysts. Ah, I want to disagree with you so bad. Memory is not accurate...far from it, unfortunately, and only creates the thoughts we think. But smell, the olfactory response, is potent. Visual is less dimensional. Hearing is less trusting. Touch is elusive to memory in any meaningful way. Taste is nearly non-inclusive. Now, the sixth sense. That is something to be reckoned with. I think that, at the very least, memories can be reduced to bare truth. We just need to take into account the alteration of the thought caused by the ego... It is much further than that, Pi, it is the association within influence that determines memory, many times. Exterior influences can effect memory as well. It can be a tangled weave. I wish it were something so un-straight-forward as ego. I may be able to sight some of my memories that have been blanketed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41704495 Canada 08/10/2013 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good evening everyone. Quoting: Seer777 I have been granted the night off. I have been catching up on the thread. Wonderful conversation. :) Hi, it's not me really Hello Billy. Is it your daughter you speak of? If so that is wonderful. I was speaking of past action 2 days ago and said, One can not change the past. One can only rectify... You seem much lighter. As your mood on the the 'riddle thread' was quite brooding. I am happy you have found some peace. :) I ran into an old girlfriend of mine my dear. And I found that part of myself again , that "I" love the most And Lyra is stronger than ever |
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No. 13 User ID: 14778846 United States 08/10/2013 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It comes down to the characterization of the infinite as 0 or 1. It is whether everything is or nothing is. But with a zero set point then nothing is real. And we know nothing can't be real: we can say at least this thread is in some way real. Therefor something takes presedence over nothing. So if something is infinite then everything must be real. Quoting: No. 13 Perhaps infinity, however, represents a limit to understanding. What is intangible seems infinite and Universe-spanning, does it not? This is an excellent point. But perhaps the everything is just a thing which is represented by all things. Perhaps knowing everything is simply knowing that all things are represented by base concepts. Or perhaps the very thing that was base concepts had become many more things. - Kai (VALIS) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39812740 United States 08/10/2013 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious Lol, I just want the tour bus to show up and everything to be that little bit different. I don't ask for much. But, sometimes it feels like I have to build it quantum construct by quantum construct. Maybe the fruit will taste that little bit sweeter. ;) It will. Being outside your thoughts and breaching that construct with a virgin mind, it is as sweet as honey, and of a shape that creates it's pervasive honeycomb. Memory is unfortunately the great distortion. It's much like we can smell and taste the intercessionary fields through their action(chemical effect), but once we move (breach silence) (alter relative value) we lose the vague subtleties of our interaction within it. This is an associative of olfactory induced memory being the thickest of activating catalysts. Ah, I want to disagree with you so bad. Memory is not accurate...far from it, unfortunately, and only creates the thoughts we think. But smell, the olfactory response, is potent. Visual is less dimensional. Hearing is less trusting. Touch is elusive to memory in any meaningful way. Taste is nearly non-inclusive. Now, the sixth sense. That is something to be reckoned with. Thus the word distortion. It is the chemo effective senses for the win Alex. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14874606 United States 08/10/2013 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It comes down to the characterization of the infinite as 0 or 1. It is whether everything is or nothing is. But with a zero set point then nothing is real. And we know nothing can't be real: we can say at least this thread is in some way real. Therefor something takes presedence over nothing. So if something is infinite then everything must be real. Quoting: No. 13 Perhaps infinity, however, represents a limit to understanding. What is intangible seems infinite and Universe-spanning, does it not? This is an excellent point. But perhaps the everything is just a thing which is represented by all things. Perhaps knowing everything is simply knowing that all things are represented by base concepts. Or perhaps the very thing that was base concepts had become many more things. Indra's Net :indra'snet: |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 08/10/2013 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello Billy. Quoting: Seer777 Is it your daughter you speak of? If so that is wonderful. I was speaking of past action 2 days ago and said, One can not change the past. One can only rectify... You seem much lighter. As your mood on the the 'riddle thread' was quite brooding. I am happy you have found some peace. :) I ran into an old girlfriend of mine my dear. And I found that part of myself again , that "I" love the most And Lyra is stronger than ever Wonderful. Rekindling an 'old flame' can be almost as fun as the first time I imagine. Or perhaps even more so... With age and wisdom does come grace. Or IOW, learning to recognize ones own faults. While forgiving them in others... I wish you all the best. As much of the beginning of new relationships, is due a bit to luck. It seems. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14874606 United States 08/10/2013 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Septenary Spirals It will. Being outside your thoughts and breaching that construct with a virgin mind, it is as sweet as honey, and of a shape that creates it's pervasive honeycomb. Memory is unfortunately the great distortion. It's much like we can smell and taste the intercessionary fields through their action(chemical effect), but once we move (breach silence) (alter relative value) we lose the vague subtleties of our interaction within it. This is an associative of olfactory induced memory being the thickest of activating catalysts. Ah, I want to disagree with you so bad. Memory is not accurate...far from it, unfortunately, and only creates the thoughts we think. But smell, the olfactory response, is potent. Visual is less dimensional. Hearing is less trusting. Touch is elusive to memory in any meaningful way. Taste is nearly non-inclusive. Now, the sixth sense. That is something to be reckoned with. Thus the word distortion. It is the chemo effective senses for the win Alex. Ah, I see why you bring that up many times. Chemo is methodical in its relation to biology. The others...well, not so much. |
aether (OP) User ID: 44460156 United Kingdom 08/10/2013 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... instant knowledge from the field (non local conscious}.. Quoting: aether 1018472 ...when you need it....it appears.... ...is it because you knew.. ...or you knew how to know... Brain's Memory 'Buffer' Discovered In Single Cells Individual nerve cells in the front part of the brain can hold traces of memories on their own for as long as a minute and possibly longer, researchers at UT Southwestern Medical Center have found. Quoting: observationThe study, available online and appearing in the February issue of Nature Neuroscience, is the first to identify the specific signal that establishes nonpermanent cellular memory and reveals how the brain holds temporary information Researchers have known that permanent memories are stored when the excitatory amino acid glutamate activates ion channels on nerve cells in the brain to reorganize and strengthen the cells' connections with one another. But this process takes minutes to hours to turn on and off and is too slow to buffer, or temporarily hold, rapidly incoming information. The researchers found that rapid-fire inputs less than a second long initiate a cellular memory process in single cells lasting as long as minute, a process called metabotropic glutamate transmission. This transmission in the most highly evolved brain region holds moment-to-moment information. [link to www.sciencedaily.com] .....rapidly incoming information. ...if it was memory it would be permanent.... ...maybe the reason you know then forget you know when accessing the field..... ..a common trait of timeless/vagueness of past events... ... is the answer you receive is always specific to the moment you desire it ..... ....the body does not retain detail because access is whenever you wish... .... information is contained and available within the field... .... not stored/retained within your mind... |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 08/10/2013 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious Memory is unfortunately the great distortion. It's much like we can smell and taste the intercessionary fields through their action(chemical effect), but once we move (breach silence) (alter relative value) we lose the vague subtleties of our interaction within it. This is an associative of olfactory induced memory being the thickest of activating catalysts. Ah, I want to disagree with you so bad. Memory is not accurate...far from it, unfortunately, and only creates the thoughts we think. But smell, the olfactory response, is potent. Visual is less dimensional. Hearing is less trusting. Touch is elusive to memory in any meaningful way. Taste is nearly non-inclusive. Now, the sixth sense. That is something to be reckoned with. I think that, at the very least, memories can be reduced to bare truth. We just need to take into account the alteration of the thought caused by the ego... It is much further than that, Pi, it is the association within influence that determines memory, many times. Exterior influences can effect memory as well. It can be a tangled weave. I wish it were something so un-straight-forward as ego. I may be able to sight some of my memories that have been blanketed. I do not think memory of information is so prone to being 'forgotten'. They are clouded by our emotional needs at the point of recall; and information rarely gets 'hooked' by this distortion. For example I am not likely to forget things like the pharmacology of a drug, or the biological information of a fish. For examples. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 08/10/2013 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw you write Phil once or twice as part of your signature. To me...you are Dion. Or 'D'. I call you that in my Mind. :) No worries, I was singing runaround Sue on the piano. So, its rather appropriate. I would love to see that... [link to www.youtube.com] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14874606 United States 08/10/2013 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 6/29/2010 3:28 PM Quoting: aether ... instant knowledge from the field (non local conscious}.. Quoting: aether 1018472 ...when you need it....it appears.... ...is it because you knew.. ...or you knew how to know... Brain's Memory 'Buffer' Discovered In Single Cells Individual nerve cells in the front part of the brain can hold traces of memories on their own for as long as a minute and possibly longer, researchers at UT Southwestern Medical Center have found. Quoting: observationThe study, available online and appearing in the February issue of Nature Neuroscience, is the first to identify the specific signal that establishes nonpermanent cellular memory and reveals how the brain holds temporary information Researchers have known that permanent memories are stored when the excitatory amino acid glutamate activates ion channels on nerve cells in the brain to reorganize and strengthen the cells' connections with one another. But this process takes minutes to hours to turn on and off and is too slow to buffer, or temporarily hold, rapidly incoming information. The researchers found that rapid-fire inputs less than a second long initiate a cellular memory process in single cells lasting as long as minute, a process called metabotropic glutamate transmission. This transmission in the most highly evolved brain region holds moment-to-moment information. [link to www.sciencedaily.com] .....rapidly incoming information. ...if it was memory it would be permanent.... ...maybe the reason you know then forget you know when accessing the field..... ..a common trait of timeless/vagueness of past events... ... is the answer you receive is always specific to the moment you desire it ..... ....the body does not retain detail because access is whenever you wish... .... information is contained and available within the field... .... not stored/retained within your mind... VERY good point. It also has to do with thinking in language, where memory is non-linguistic, even though we may remember past conversations, the overall memory is outside language. Except maybe for photo-graphic memories, which bridges many aspects that are opposing to memory theorists. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41704495 Canada 08/10/2013 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw you write Phil once or twice as part of your signature. To me...you are Dion. Or 'D'. I call you that in my Mind. :) No worries, I was singing runaround Sue on the piano. So, its rather appropriate. I would love to see that... [link to www.youtube.com] Perfect |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14874606 United States 08/10/2013 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Septenary Spirals Ah, I want to disagree with you so bad. Memory is not accurate...far from it, unfortunately, and only creates the thoughts we think. But smell, the olfactory response, is potent. Visual is less dimensional. Hearing is less trusting. Touch is elusive to memory in any meaningful way. Taste is nearly non-inclusive. Now, the sixth sense. That is something to be reckoned with. I think that, at the very least, memories can be reduced to bare truth. We just need to take into account the alteration of the thought caused by the ego... It is much further than that, Pi, it is the association within influence that determines memory, many times. Exterior influences can effect memory as well. It can be a tangled weave. I wish it were something so un-straight-forward as ego. I may be able to sight some of my memories that have been blanketed. I do not think memory of information is so prone to being 'forgotten'. They are clouded by our emotional needs at the point of recall; and information rarely gets 'hooked' by this distortion. For example I am not likely to forget things like the pharmacology of a drug, or the biological information of a fish. For examples. Yes, but you are referencing personal memory, not possibly influenced memory. Memory can be altered. It can be incomplete. It can be influenced to a degree. Besides that, reality of the experiences can be falsifed. There is so much that is out there that people can be fucked with if wished. |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 08/10/2013 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, but you are referencing personal memory, not possibly influenced memory. Memory can be altered. It can be incomplete. It can be influenced to a degree. Besides that, reality of the experiences can be falsifed. There is so much that is out there that people can be fucked with if wished. Quoting: Septenary Spirals This is how I saw it a couple days ago... I saw bit over half or so... Quoting: Seer777 The 'difference' I assume, would rely on vantage point. In all regards. See it from a hundred different angles and never capture it completely. As with most things. It seems. It only leads deeper or higher. Or both simultaneously. :) i was just thinking the same cos i say the priory is less complex but it is not really , it is as you say Quoting: aether What is Man but where one stands in a Moment? What is yesterday? Memory. What is 'Memory' but that subject to constant interpretation, reflection, and manipulation? What is 'pure memory'? Does it exist? I have heard that if one opens a bottle of wine...it will have tasted different had you opened it the day before, or after. Yes, you just won't remember it. It is a question of conciousness balanced with proper action without the veneer of bias distorting said action. This is how I separate what people say from what they mean. Good morning. :) My point being where one is standing in the moment of the memory formation. Often times, 'all the pieces' are not visible, so one must do with what they have at the time. If later pieces are garnered, the memory is then re-visited and altered to allow the new information its place...if you will. The memory prior to incorporation could have been found false due to the new. However, people will often forgive themselves this fact quickly and move on. I hope that makes sense. It is still early. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 08/10/2013 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Azeratel Axo I think that, at the very least, memories can be reduced to bare truth. We just need to take into account the alteration of the thought caused by the ego... It is much further than that, Pi, it is the association within influence that determines memory, many times. Exterior influences can effect memory as well. It can be a tangled weave. I wish it were something so un-straight-forward as ego. I may be able to sight some of my memories that have been blanketed. I do not think memory of information is so prone to being 'forgotten'. They are clouded by our emotional needs at the point of recall; and information rarely gets 'hooked' by this distortion. For example I am not likely to forget things like the pharmacology of a drug, or the biological information of a fish. For examples. Yes, but you are referencing personal memory, not possibly influenced memory. Memory can be altered. It can be incomplete. It can be influenced to a degree. Besides that, reality of the experiences can be falsifed. There is so much that is out there that people can be fucked with if wished. So I suppose the question is 'why' and 'to what end'.... |