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An Intuitive Explanation of Phase Conjugation

Phase Conjugation

Phase conjugation is a fascinating phenomenon with very unusual characteristics and properties. It operates somewhat like holography, but it is a dynamic hologram, whose "holographic plate" is defined by interfering wave fronts in a nonlinear optical medium, rather than etched as a static pattern on a glass plate. In this page I provide an intuitive explanation of the essential principles behind phase conjugation.

With a phase conjugate mirror, on the other hand, each ray is reflected back in the direction it came from. This reflected conjugate wave therefore propagates backwards through the distorting medium, and essentially "un-does" the distortion, and returns to a coherent beam of parallel rays travelling in the opposite direction.
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oh i think we get it
phase conjugation is cased by 4 wave mixing and when something mixes waves 4 ways and pumps (pulses) back the waves it receives to mix 4 ways the waves it returns to that which sent it the original signal is exactly the way the signal arrived to it to do so (return it)
no matter what occurred to the signal along the way traveling through the mediums it was forced to travel through to get to the 4 wave mixer
and
the 4 wave mixer sends those waves back along the same path that the signal arrived along

okay think stars
stars are 4 wave mixers
thus the signals between stars
be they light speed signals (electromagnetic radiation)
or
faster than light electric signals (longitudinal waves)
the signals between the 4 way mixers (stars) is never distorted by what may happen to the signals in between the stars
thus
our material dimension remains coherent because our stars maintain coherent signals between each other no matter if clouds of dust, plasma, whatever is in between
because although the signals go all over the place prompted by the dust, plasma etc.
none of that effects the 4 way mixers (stars) because their structure (4 way mixer "pumps") enables their constant orientation between each of them always

see how starts to feel

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It is possible, using nonlinear optical processes, to exactly reverse the propagation direction and phase variation of a beam of light. The reversed beam is called a conjugate beam, and thus the technique is known as optical phase conjugation (also called time reversal, wavefront reversal and retroreflection).

One can interpret this nonlinear optical interaction as being analogous to a real-time holographic process
 Quoting: observation

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and i think what is being explained here is how phase conjugation works for us
if anything sends electromagnetic signal radiation (light) to our eyes, within the visible to our eyes color ranges (wave bands) our eyes or us possess the 4 wave mix ability thus no matter what happens to the signal along the way of getting to us we send the signals straight back to what sent them as they originally were sent and that is why we see what is sent, because we 4 way mix
if we did not we would see everything all over the place because the em radiation (light) is sent all over the place by the medium (gaia atmosphere) it has to travel through to get to us , like dust, water vapor, molecules etc.etc. all mess with the em radiation (light)

yes, seems like that

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It is possible, using nonlinear optical processes, to exactly reverse the propagation direction and phase variation of a beam of light. The reversed beam is called a conjugate beam, and thus the technique is known as optical phase conjugation (also called time reversal, wavefront reversal and retroreflection).

One can interpret this nonlinear optical interaction as being analogous to a real-time holographic process
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and i think what is being explained here is how phase conjugation works for us
if anything sends electromagnetic signal radiation (light) to our eyes, within the visible to our eyes color ranges (wave bands) our eyes or us possess the 4 wave mix ability thus no matter what happens to the signal along the way of getting to us we send the signals straight back to what sent them as they originally were sent and that is why we see what is sent, because we 4 way mix
if we did not we would see everything all over the place because the em radiation (light) is sent all over the place by the medium (gaia atmosphere) it has to travel through to get to us , like dust, water vapor, molecules etc.etc. all mess with the em radiation (light)

yes, seems like that
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so what that means is we always see what is sending us the signal because we 4 way mix everything and 4 way mixing without thought removes all distortion between us and what sent us the signal when our 4 wave mixed signal goes back to what sent it
and when it gets back to what sent it we are seeing it because we only see the original signal because we 4 way mix the distortions in between out along the way

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short geek video of a young guy repeating old experiments taking longitudinal electric "waves" faster than light

he touches 110% speed of light in his front room tounge






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short geek video of a young guy repeating old experiments taking longitudinal electric "waves" faster than light

he touches 110% speed of light in his front room tounge





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Oh gawd..lets be real..the old ways are forgotten because we have forgottten those that knew the old ways. That's all. Out if sight out of mind..not rocket science
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short geek video of a young guy repeating old experiments taking longitudinal electric "waves" faster than light

he touches 110% speed of light in his front room tounge




[link to www.youtube.com]
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Oh gawd..lets be real..the old ways are forgotten because we have forgottten those that knew the old ways. That's all. Out if sight out of mind..not rocket science
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yes, nice going back to the future , i hope you agree
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Geez, don't know how this was overlooked by Tesla fans on GLP.

In any case, here's a toast to the greatest scientist EVER on this planet. cheersxmitsupermandrinks
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Thread: Nikola Tesla died 71 years ago today

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What do you mean by 4 wave mixing? It is making better sense, slowly lol
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can't find the exact term for now but i found this entry for now..

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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yes you can see where they were last century on the nature of consciousness and our environment and everything really, this is why we are having to change our universe this century into one that fits our experiences thus makes sense

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Also, is the difference between the two mirrors is the conjugate one is fractal? Or is that off. Im confused on how those two are different.
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What do you mean by 4 wave mixing? It is making better sense, slowly lol
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it is a term for amplification , if you have a structure that mixes waves together , be them sound, light or anything that makes a wave , in certain ways, the result is they "pump/amplify" one another by their reaction to one another because the design of your structure has caused them to do so


it is synergy again utilized to send the same thing that is received back to the sender more powerful (amplified/pumped) than the original waves that arrived

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What do you mean by 4 wave mixing? It is making better sense, slowly lol
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it is a term for amplification , if you have a structure that mixes waves together , be them sound, light or anything that makes a wave , in certain ways, the result is they "pump/amplify" one another by their reaction to one another because the design your structure has caused them to


it is synergy again utilized to send the same thing that is received back to the sender more powerful (amplified/pumped) than the original waves that arrived
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Yes.

That sounds exactly how it feels...

It is also how one creates the 'pulse'. But not always.

:)
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Also, is the difference between the two mirrors is the conjugate one is fractal? Or is that off. Im confused on how those two are different.
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yes fractal is another term we require to explain more and it is my fault we are not
we will have a go over the coming days cos it feels like we have got to the stage where we need to to make sense of information that is arising
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What do you mean by 4 wave mixing? It is making better sense, slowly lol
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it is a term for amplification , if you have a structure that mixes waves together , be them sound, light or anything that makes a wave , in certain ways, the result is they "pump/amplify" one another by their reaction to one another because the design your structure has caused them to


it is synergy again utilized to send the same thing that is received back to the sender more powerful (amplified/pumped) than the original waves that arrived
 Quoting: aether


Yes.

That sounds exactly how it feels...

It is also how one creates the 'pulse'. But not always.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


yes, we have been into this before so it is good news for us that we have gotten to it happening

amazing really to me that we have

well done everybody tounge

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What do you mean by 4 wave mixing? It is making better sense, slowly lol
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it is a term for amplification , if you have a structure that mixes waves together , be them sound, light or anything that makes a wave , in certain ways, the result is they "pump/amplify" one another by their reaction to one another because the design your structure has caused them to


it is synergy again utilized to send the same thing that is received back to the sender more powerful (amplified/pumped) than the original waves that arrived
 Quoting: aether


Yes.

That sounds exactly how it feels...

It is also how one creates the 'pulse'. But not always.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


also why to be thoughtful what thought waves of others are utilize to amplify (pulse) remembering we are natural (without thought) wave mixers (synergizers) tounge

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What do you mean by 4 wave mixing? It is making better sense, slowly lol
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it is a term for amplification , if you have a structure that mixes waves together , be them sound, light or anything that makes a wave , in certain ways, the result is they "pump/amplify" one another by their reaction to one another because the design your structure has caused them to


it is synergy again utilized to send the same thing that is received back to the sender more powerful (amplified/pumped) than the original waves that arrived
 Quoting: aether


Yes.

That sounds exactly how it feels...

It is also how one creates the 'pulse'. But not always.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


also why to be thoughtful what thought waves of others are utilize to amplify (pulse) remembering we are natural (without thought) wave mixers (synergizers) tounge
 Quoting: aether


and the other thing to remember is while no one believes faster than light exists no one notices that before the light speed em radiation (light waves) have got to you faster than light speed waves have arrived and they to are "mixed and pumped" but who knows they are doing that
not many tounge
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it is a term for amplification , if you have a structure that mixes waves together , be them sound, light or anything that makes a wave , in certain ways, the result is they "pump/amplify" one another by their reaction to one another because the design your structure has caused them to


it is synergy again utilized to send the same thing that is received back to the sender more powerful (amplified/pumped) than the original waves that arrived
 Quoting: aether


Yes.

That sounds exactly how it feels...

It is also how one creates the 'pulse'. But not always.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


also why to be thoughtful what thought waves of others are utilize to amplify (pulse) remembering we are natural (without thought) wave mixers (synergizers) tounge
 Quoting: aether


and the other thing to remember is while no one believes faster than light exists no one notices that before the light speed em radiation (light waves) have got to you faster than light speed waves have arrived and they to are "mixed and pumped" but who knows they are doing that
not many tounge
 Quoting: aether


that is intuition, precognition, distant feeling (telepathy) etc.etc. , the faster than light waves that tell you what you can`t know at light speed until it occurs sometime later
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Yes.

That sounds exactly how it feels...

It is also how one creates the 'pulse'. But not always.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


also why to be thoughtful what thought waves of others are utilize to amplify (pulse) remembering we are natural (without thought) wave mixers (synergizers) tounge
 Quoting: aether


and the other thing to remember is while no one believes faster than light exists no one notices that before the light speed em radiation (light waves) have got to you faster than light speed waves have arrived and they to are "mixed and pumped" but who knows they are doing that
not many tounge
 Quoting: aether


that is intuition, precognition, distant feeling (telepathy) etc.etc. , the faster than light waves that tell you what you can`t know at light speed until it occurs sometime later
 Quoting: aether


It's how the 'quantum particles'...if you will, communicate. Talk. Through pulsing at each other.

Simple as that. Once a connection is solidified for a time. Whether it be seconds, minutes, or longer.


Pulse, pulse, pulse.

Breathe...in

Out.

WaveLength
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also why to be thoughtful what thought waves of others are utilize to amplify (pulse) remembering we are natural (without thought) wave mixers (synergizers) tounge
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and the other thing to remember is while no one believes faster than light exists no one notices that before the light speed em radiation (light waves) have got to you faster than light speed waves have arrived and they to are "mixed and pumped" but who knows they are doing that
not many tounge
 Quoting: aether


that is intuition, precognition, distant feeling (telepathy) etc.etc. , the faster than light waves that tell you what you can`t know at light speed until it occurs sometime later
 Quoting: aether


It's how the 'quantum particles'...if you will, communicate. Talk. Through pulsing at each other.

Simple as that. Once a connection is solidified for a time. Whether it be seconds, minutes, or longer.


Pulse, pulse, pulse.

Breathe...in

Out.

WaveLength
 Quoting: Seer777


yes and i have just had a surprise now we have just opened a new door (to me)
i knew the door but was never prompted to walk through to right now and look what happened when i did

Great stellated dodecahedron

In geometry, the great stellated dodecahedron is a Kepler-Poinsot polyhedron, with Schläfli symbol {5/2,3}. It is one of four nonconvex regular polyhedra.

It is composed of 12 intersecting pentagrammic faces, with three pentagrams meeting at each vertex..
 Quoting: observation

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what a shape tounge
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It's one of the Platonic Solids.

Platonic Solids
In Euclidean geometry, a Platonic solid is a regular, convex polyhedron with congruent faces of regular polygons and the same number of faces meeting at each vertex. Five solids meet those criteria, and each is named after its number of faces.
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Dodecahedron

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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It's one of the Platonic Solids.

Platonic Solids
In Euclidean geometry, a Platonic solid is a regular, convex polyhedron with congruent faces of regular polygons and the same number of faces meeting at each vertex. Five solids meet those criteria, and each is named after its number of faces.
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Dodecahedron

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


yes, what we have is the stellated dodecahedron for a reason
how does that shape feel

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It's one of the Platonic Solids.

Platonic Solids
In Euclidean geometry, a Platonic solid is a regular, convex polyhedron with congruent faces of regular polygons and the same number of faces meeting at each vertex. Five solids meet those criteria, and each is named after its number of faces.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Dodecahedron

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


yes, what we have is the stellated dodecahedron for a reason
how does that shape feel
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Feels like a bunch of spinning pentagons.

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yes, what we have is the stellated dodecahedron for a reason
how does that shape feel
 Quoting: aether


and the reason is fractal and phase conjugate took us to it as in: it fits

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It's one of the Platonic Solids.

Platonic Solids
In Euclidean geometry, a Platonic solid is a regular, convex polyhedron with congruent faces of regular polygons and the same number of faces meeting at each vertex. Five solids meet those criteria, and each is named after its number of faces.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Dodecahedron

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


yes, what we have is the stellated dodecahedron for a reason
how does that shape feel
 Quoting: aether


Feels like a bunch of spinning pentagons.

[link to bourabai.kz]
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yes, good , step by step for me cos it is all pentagrams tounge
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It's one of the Platonic Solids.

Platonic Solids
In Euclidean geometry, a Platonic solid is a regular, convex polyhedron with congruent faces of regular polygons and the same number of faces meeting at each vertex. Five solids meet those criteria, and each is named after its number of faces.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Dodecahedron

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


yes, what we have is the stellated dodecahedron for a reason
how does that shape feel
 Quoting: aether


Feels like a bunch of spinning pentagons.

[link to bourabai.kz]
 Quoting: Seer777

yes, good , step by step for me cos it is all pentagrams tounge
 Quoting: aether


Pentagon.

The 'pentagram' is different and carries with it unfounded and 'belief based' fears.

But really...
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yes, what we have is the stellated dodecahedron for a reason
how does that shape feel
 Quoting: aether


Feels like a bunch of spinning pentagons.

[link to bourabai.kz]
 Quoting: Seer777

yes, good , step by step for me cos it is all pentagrams tounge
 Quoting: aether


Pentagon.

The 'pentagram' is different and carries with it unfounded and 'belief based' fears.

But really...
[link to www.hermes3.net]
 Quoting: Seer777


i agree
but
we have the great stellated dodecahedron and it is

It is composed of 12 intersecting pentagrammic faces, with three pentagrams meeting at each vertex.

It shares its vertex arrangement with the regular dodecahedron, as well as being a stellation of a (smaller) dodecahedron. It is the only dodecahedral stellation with this property, apart from the dodecahedron itself. Its dual, the great icosahedron, is related in a similar fashion to the icosahedron.
 Quoting: observation


pentagrams
and it is lovely, it was the scale that surprised me and it`s uniqueness , i have never met it before
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okay self symmetry

Self-similarity

In mathematics, a self-similar object is exactly or approximately similar to a part of itself (i.e. the whole has the same shape as one or more of the parts). Many objects in the real world, such as coastlines, are statistically self-similar: parts of them show the same statistical properties at many scales. Self-similarity is a typical property of fractals..
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

when is self symmetry (similarity) not holographic
when it is phase conjugation

because phase conjugation returns the exact signal (holographic process) pumped (amplified)

wow

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okay self symmetry

Self-similarity

In mathematics, a self-similar object is exactly or approximately similar to a part of itself (i.e. the whole has the same shape as one or more of the parts). Many objects in the real world, such as coastlines, are statistically self-similar: parts of them show the same statistical properties at many scales. Self-similarity is a typical property of fractals..
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

when is self symmetry (similarity) not holographic
when it is phase conjugation

because phase conjugation returns the exact signal (holographic process) pumped (amplified)

wow
 Quoting: aether


Fractals exhibit self-similarity, meaning their inner structure has the same pattern as their outer structure - like a pine cone or a fern tree.
 Quoting: observation


as in: what causes fractality is phase conjugation
that is why it is a universal process and how it occurs

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hi there
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