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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States 03/03/2014 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot ... Like crossroads? I hear you can make a 'deal' there, due mythological belief. What is the 'Devil' to you Daniel? Quoting: Seer777 the 'Devil' ? Quoting: rekameohsnad Exactly. Quoting: Seer777 this idea of 'only one' of yours is quite limiting Quoting: rekameohsnad Wha? I am asking your thoughts on your own words. Which I bolded. You presume to know what I think of the 'Devil'? As I have mentioned as such many times. There is no 'scapegoat'. Each chooses for oneself. Who is Samuel? If I am so bold as to start throwing out names. What did I mentioned the other day regarding 'Chaos'? What has occurred since? Who's paying attention? Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca
rekameohsnad User ID: 39092829 United States 03/03/2014 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot i was speaking of the devil's cross vs the devil's triangle the idea of the Devil is an entirely different notion to consider
rekameohsnad User ID: 39092829 United States 03/03/2014 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot There is no 'scapegoat'. Each chooses for oneself. Quoting: Seer777 Then why have you chosen only one Devil ? I choose not to personify such notions. All about the land currently....I speak from the perspective of the earth
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States 03/03/2014 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Pray I'm wrong. Indeed. March the 3rd month. Quoting: Seer777 He should have listened to me. I told him directly. He would go to War if he enlisted. He laughed at me. Oh Meg...you're so silly. Yeah? [link to www.youtube.com] Quoting: Seer777 ... [link to i846.photobucket.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Quoting: Seer777 You know what is worse than wanting to be right? Being right, when you hope not to be. Quoting: Seer777 Quoting: Seer777 Quoting: Seer777 Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca
orbs User ID: 1088322 United States 03/03/2014 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot [link to youtu.be] You're a shining star, no matter who you are Shining bright to see what you can truly be That you can truly be
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States 03/03/2014 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Here it comes. Too late. Prepare. It exists only to destroy Ego. Quoting: Seer777 Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca

aether (OP) User ID: 53372331 United Kingdom 03/03/2014 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot [link to youtu.be] You're a shining star, no matter who you are Shining bright to see what you can truly be That you can truly be Quoting: orbs 1088322
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25387862 Canada 03/03/2014 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot 'The' Devil is quantized within nicotine.... in my view.... any poison is also a therapy at the correct dose. The poison itself is a test. Of Will, and of ability to reinvent oneself. Phoenixicide, really. The esoteric Satan.... is embodied by the Word run amok. Like cancer. Or weeds in a garden. Of course the cancer or weeds themselves are not to blame.... Enter: Judgement, Morality, and Compassion....
rekameohsnad User ID: 39092829 United States 03/03/2014 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot There is no 'scapegoat'. Quoting: Seer777 well right away then one assumes you consider the notion of 'the Devil' and blame to be one in the same....interesting I guess from the perspective of 'blame' then one has to consider the idea of living vs dead Are the living obligated to the dead ? Is the dead obligated to the living ? 'the Devil'....wow, what an idea
rekameohsnad User ID: 39092829 United States 03/03/2014 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Here it comes. Too late. Prepare. It exists only to destroy Ego. Quoting: Seer777 Quoting: Seer777 It is the whole of Ego's, combine the whole of Ego's.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1088322 United States 03/03/2014 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot sarira is a generic term referring to "Buddhist relics", although in common usage it usually refers to pearl or crystal-like bead-shaped objects that are purportedly found among the cremated ashes of Buddhist spiritual masters. Sarira are held to emanate or incite 'blessings' and 'grace' (Sanskrit: adhishthana) within the mindstream and experience of those connected to them. Sarira are also believed to ward off evil in the Himalayan Buddhist tradition. Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org] If the above are real, would they be something akin to plasma crystals?
aether (OP) User ID: 53372331 United Kingdom 03/03/2014 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Maori oral traditions clearly state that, upon arrival in New Zealand, Maori found that there was a large, well-established population already living in the country. The inhabitants were described as having skin complexion that was white to light-ruddy, with eye colours from blue to green to darker tints. Their hair colours ranged from white and dull-golden, with red being predominant in the general population. There were also shades of brown through to black and braided samples of this multi-coloured hair (taken from the Waitakere rock shelters) used to be on display at Auckland War Memorial Museum. In physical stature most groups were about the same height as Maori, but there was one widely dispersed group described as being considerably smaller (white pygmies) with fine, childlike features, white-golden hair and large watery blue-green eyes. Around Port Waikato and distributed up the West Coast beyond the Hokianga Harbour to Mitimiti was yet another group who were very tall, achieving an average adult height of around 7-feet. Since early colonial times the skeletal remains of these people have been continuously observed as trussed, sitting position burials in coastal sand dunes or laid-out horizontally in caves.................. Quoting: observation [link to www.celticnz.co.nz]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45230611 United States 03/03/2014 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Denial of source.
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States 03/03/2014 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot I think I know now why Josh kept coming up. Makes sense. To me anyway. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25387862 Canada 03/03/2014 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Thread: The Last Question
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 03/03/2014 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot This juniper tree in my yard fell all the way over from the ice storm. It is somewhat significant because the lady that lived here before was native who planted it. Quoting: Fancypantz well we did get a bit "emotional" with the tribes and their expanding their knowing of old ways luckily for everyone you and w/f have well what do we know we know the father of the "object held dear" was killed by lightening this prompted "the object held dear" under "the sign of the instrument"that was used to build ancient structures, to be killed by the hand of man followed by his mother thus, no more of his type to be born so a question to ask is was the sign of the lighting killing the father the sign some within the tribes took to know the son must be the wrong sign and his mother also? we have discovered that "the sign of the instrument to align" (quartered circle) is incorporated into the sign of the medicine wheel by many tribes Medicine wheels are sited throughout northern United States and southern Canada, specifically South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Alberta and Saskatchewan. The majority of the circa 70 documented architectural hoops still extant are evident within Alberta, Canada. One of the prototypical medicine wheels remains within the Bighorn National Forest in Big Horn County, Wyoming. This 75-foot-diameter (23 m) wheel has 28 spokes, and is part of a vast set of old Native American sites that document 7,000 years of their history in that area. Medicine wheels were commonly used by North American natives such as the Ojibwa and prehistoric ancestors of the Assiniboine. Some locations of medicine wheels are found in the prairie regions of North America, such as Manitoba, Wyoming, Montana, Saskatchewan, and Alberta. Larger astronomical and ceremonial petroforms and Hopewell mound building can also be found in other places of North America. Quoting: observation [link to en.wikipedia.org] so a question to ask is what are the tribes looking for ? the white buffalo has provided the sign to look at electricity by the actions of men following his father being killed by electricity the question to ask is were the people right to read the sign of electricity killing the father as a sign to stop looking at the son for a sign ? or is the sign the electricity killing the father with another meaning? are the tribes being told the killing of the father by electricity is a good sign if understood? and is the killing of the son and mother, by our own hand, the sign that tells, if we miss the first sign, the dad, we kill "that which is dear to us", the new generation and our means to provide new generations, the son and the mother? if that is the sign meaning the question is: how can electricity that kills be good? the answer to that is to be found in our new information of our past 100 years or so so the question is: can the tribes accept that, new to them information, will provide the answer to why, that which kills, provides and maintains life, when understood? if they accept that, they will enter into the domain of the great mystery The Great Spirit, also called Wakan Tanka among the Sioux, the Creator or the Great Maker in English, and Gitchi Manitou in Algonquian, is a conception of a supreme being prevalent among some Native American and First Nations cultures. According to Lakotah activist Russell Means a better translation of Wakan Tanka is the Great Mystery. Quoting: observation [link to en.wikipedia.org] the question may be. who if any amongst them desire to understand the great mystery for the betterment of humankind ? Quoting: aether Quoting: aether Forgot about that. I don't think the tree can be saved as it is too big to stand it back upright. There is a weird grimm story about the juniper and this part is interesting: However, the shamanic initiatory elements within the Grimms' story are unmistakable. The sequence of events may be summed up as: initial death (by beheading, ie dismemberment), the return to the cauldron/womb of transformation (ie the cooking pot), the stripping of the traveller's flesh from his bones and the consumption of that flesh by the traveller's life guide/father, the return of the stripped-down traveller to his ancestors and the world tree, shape-shifting, subsequent re-integration and return to the normal world. The shamanic pattern is so strong that I am led to question whether the evil stepmother and her eventual death are merely late corruptions to this traditional story, which appears to have been strongly changed by the addition of a stereotypical evil stepmother and heavy-handed Christian morality. In particular, I am tempted to wonder whether this story originally concerned either full-blown shamanic initiation of a young man or, alternatively, puberty and/or initiatory rites for the boy, overseen by both real parents, with the "killed" boy being ceremonially and ritually presented to his ancestors at the ancestral tree. Significantly, it is the sister, acting almost in the role of a priestess, who places the bones beneath the tree, thus initiating the sequence of events which starts the shift back onto the upward and outward path of the spiral. In true World Tree fashion, all of the essential magickal or transformatory elements take place around or beneath the eponymous juniper tree. And of course, the image of the bird as a symbol of shamanic magickal flight has been welldocumented by Paul Devereux(11) amongst others. [link to www.whitedragon.org.uk]
rekameohsnad User ID: 39092829 United States 03/03/2014 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot 'the Devil' could only be one thing-- the original sin
rekameohsnad User ID: 39092829 United States 03/03/2014 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot so 'the Devil' would be dead
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 03/03/2014 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Doesn't devil just mean adversary? That would be a push or the push which would could be the why answer as to immortality and boredom.
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States 03/03/2014 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot This thread was fun last night. Been awhile since GLP has been that fast paced for me. Still considering the Josh thing. What do you think Facts? Do you think it was a sign? Or should I let it go? Quoting: Seer777 Thinking... Quoting: Facts>feelings ..yes, its a sign..imagination is the precursor to manifestation,but you already know that.Soon you will believe it too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43782195 Quoting: Facts>feelings Quoting: Seer777 Quoting: Facts>feelings Yes. I did say to myself yesterday if I got one more sync regarding, I would do so. And I hold to my owns 'words'. Even if I just think them. Quoting: Seer777 I was thinking about this today. And how I did not follow through. I felt some shame regarding. Not sure what I should do now. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 03/03/2014 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot I think I know now why Josh kept coming up. Makes sense. To me anyway. Quoting: Seer777 I have a cousin named Josh who was affected by going to war and actually went to a institution because he didn't want to live anymore afterwards. Now is a mercenary.
aether (OP) User ID: 53372331 United Kingdom 03/03/2014 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Forgot about that. I don't think the tree can be saved as it is too big to stand it back upright. There is a weird grimm story about the juniper and this part is interesting: However, the shamanic initiatory elements within the Grimms' story are unmistakable. The sequence of events may be summed up as: initial death (by beheading, ie dismemberment), the return to the cauldron/womb of transformation (ie the cooking pot), the stripping of the traveller's flesh from his bones and the consumption of that flesh by the traveller's life guide/father, the return of the stripped-down traveller to his ancestors and the world tree, shape-shifting, subsequent re-integration and return to the normal world. The shamanic pattern is so strong that I am led to question whether the evil stepmother and her eventual death are merely late corruptions to this traditional story, which appears to have been strongly changed by the addition of a stereotypical evil stepmother and heavy-handed Christian morality. In particular, I am tempted to wonder whether this story originally concerned either full-blown shamanic initiation of a young man or, alternatively, puberty and/or initiatory rites for the boy, overseen by both real parents, with the "killed" boy being ceremonially and ritually presented to his ancestors at the ancestral tree. Significantly, it is the sister, acting almost in the role of a priestess, who places the bones beneath the tree, thus initiating the sequence of events which starts the shift back onto the upward and outward path of the spiral. In true World Tree fashion, all of the essential magickal or transformatory elements take place around or beneath the eponymous juniper tree. And of course, the image of the bird as a symbol of shamanic magickal flight has been welldocumented by Paul Devereux(11) amongst others. [link to www.whitedragon.org.uk] Quoting: Fancypantz yes, the old gives way to the new symbolized by you is what it could be to the tribal tree
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1088322 United States 03/03/2014 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Now the tree has fallen, I would advise to make something out of it, a totem maybe.
rekameohsnad User ID: 39092829 United States 03/03/2014 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Doesn't devil just mean adversary? That would be a push or the push which would could be the why answer as to immortality and boredom. Quoting: Fancypantz hey that's nice simply 'adversary' hey Seer777, to answer your question, I would have to say 'the Devil' is 'adversary'
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States 03/03/2014 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot I think I know now why Josh kept coming up. Makes sense. To me anyway. Quoting: Seer777 I have a cousin named Josh who was affected by going to war and actually went to a institution because he didn't want to live anymore afterwards. Now is a mercenary. Quoting: Fancypantz Perhaps this is the push I needed. I have a '2 week window'. Which I have spoken of in the past. I believe today makes 12 days. 2/19-3/3. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25387862 Canada 03/03/2014 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot 'the Devil' could only be one thing-- the original sin Quoting: rekameohsnad Or the revelation of a path unto it....? Doesn't devil just mean adversary? That would be a push or the push which would could be the why answer as to immortality and boredom. Quoting: Fancypantz Adversary to every man, yes. It's not the challenges we face, but the way we deal with them that defines our character. A devil to me might not be your devil, but 'The Devil' is a devil to all. I do recognize a need to update my own terminology. My apologies.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 03/03/2014 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Now the tree has fallen, I would advise to make something out of it, a totem maybe. Quoting: <<orbs>> That's a good idea
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1088322 United States 03/03/2014 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot Now the tree has fallen, I would advise to make something out of it, a totem maybe. Quoting: <<orbs>> An interesting tree :) Juniper berry was first intended as a medication since juniper berries are a diuretic and were also thought to be an appetite stimulant and a remedy for rheumatism and arthritis. Western American Native Tribes are also reported to have used the juniper berry as an appetite suppressant in times of hunger and/or famine. Currently, the juniper berry is being researched as a possible treatment for diet-controlled diabetes, as it releases insulin from the pancreas (hence alleviating hunger). It is also said to have been used by some tribes as a female contraceptive. Quoting: Juniper berries, including Juniperus phoenicea and Juniperus oxycedrus have been found in ancient Egyptian tombs at multiple sites. J. oxycedrus is not known to grow in Egypt, and neither is Juniperus excelsa, which was found along with J. oxycedrus in the tomb of Tutankhamun.[14] The berries imported into Egypt may have come from Greece; the Greeks record using juniper berries as a medicine long before mentioning their use in food.[15] The Greeks used the berries in many of their Olympics events because of their belief that the berries increased physical stamina in athletes.[16] The Romans used juniper berries as a cheap domestically produced substitute for the expensive black pepper and long pepper imported from India.[4] It was also used as an adulterant, as reported in Pliny the Elder's Natural History: "Pepper is adulterated with juniper berries, which have the property, to a marvellous degree, of assuming the pungency of pepper."[17] Pliny also incorrectly asserted that black pepper grew on trees that were "very similar in appearance to our junipers". Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1088322 United States 03/03/2014 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot 'the Devil' could only be one thing-- the original sin Quoting: rekameohsnad Or the revelation of a path unto it....? Doesn't devil just mean adversary? That would be a push or the push which would could be the why answer as to immortality and boredom. Quoting: Fancypantz Adversary to every man, yes. It's not the challenges we face, but the way we deal with them that defines our character. A devil to me might not be your devil, but 'The Devil' is a devil to all. I do recognize a need to update my own terminology. My apologies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25387862 I think of the devil being my fears manifest in form.
rekameohsnad User ID: 39092829 United States 03/03/2014 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: X Marks the Spot one can call a 2x4 a board, but it will always be wood
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