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The real flood: Submerged prehistory

.........But it wasn’t just the artefacts that captured Dr Benjamin’s imagination; it was where they were discovered that caught his attention. One of the first pages in Dr Benjamin’s own book Submerged Prehistory, of which he is the principal editor, is dedicated to a remarkable graph which shows global sea level rise of up to 130 metres between 18,000 and 5,000 years ago.

Given the tendency of humans to establish settlements along the coast, and early human migratory patterns, which also follow coastal routes, it’s not difficult to appreciate just how many settlements might have been swallowed up by the ocean over the past 15,000 years.

Surprisingly, in spite of the apparently self-evident nature of that conclusion, and 30 years after the remarkably well-preserved discoveries from Denmark (with further work pouring in from around the world), prehistoric underwater archaeologists are still relatively rare..........
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Researchers say Neanderthals were no strangers to good parenting

Archaeologists at the University of York are challenging the traditional view that Neanderthal childhood was difficult, short and dangerous.

A research team from PALAEO (Centre for Human Palaeoecology and Evolutionary Origins) and the Department of Archaeology at York offer a new and distinctive perspective which suggests that Neanderthal children experienced strong emotional attachments with their immediate social group, used play to develop skills and played a significant role in their society.

The traditional perception of the toughness of Neanderthal childhood is based largely on biological evidence, but the archaeologists, led by Dr Penny Spikins, also studied cultural and social evidence to explore the experience of Neanderthal children.

In research published in the Oxford Journal of Archaeology, they found that Neanderthal childhood experience was subtly different from that of their modern human counterparts in that it had a greater focus on social relationships within their group. Investigation of Neanderthal burials suggests that children played a particularly significant role in their society, particularly in symbolic expression. ....
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The real flood: Submerged prehistory

.........But it wasn’t just the artefacts that captured Dr Benjamin’s imagination; it was where they were discovered that caught his attention. One of the first pages in Dr Benjamin’s own book Submerged Prehistory, of which he is the principal editor, is dedicated to a remarkable graph which shows global sea level rise of up to 130 metres between 18,000 and 5,000 years ago.

Given the tendency of humans to establish settlements along the coast, and early human migratory patterns, which also follow coastal routes, it’s not difficult to appreciate just how many settlements might have been swallowed up by the ocean over the past 15,000 years.

Surprisingly, in spite of the apparently self-evident nature of that conclusion, and 30 years after the remarkably well-preserved discoveries from Denmark (with further work pouring in from around the world), prehistoric underwater archaeologists are still relatively rare..........
 Quoting: observation

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unfortunately. most all early Mesoamerican records were destroyed. it is interesting that cuzco and most all sacred places of the incas were built high in the andre's mountains safe from flooding
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Yousef Awyan and his amazing discovery today at Saqqara in Egypt. The 3 rectangles you see represent something intriguing. One of them by itself would mean Per, as in house. Two would represent Peru-i, as in 2 houses. 3 or mean PERU. The basic description of the glyphs means "toward the many houses that lie beyond the great waters."
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Good morning everyone.

Thought I would stop by real quick.

The entire night last night of dreams was of water. Massive waves drowning cities. I was always on boats, and surfboards, and seeing waves taller than any building crashing down through cities. I drowned many times, but always there was more.
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good morning

oh dear, that feels unpleasant for you to experience, i hope you shake off the emotional effects quickly
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These kind are too bad emotionally. They are more exciting to me than others. There are others that are really bad. I don't really tell anyone about them. Wifey can tell when I have the difficult ones. Takes me about the entire day to shake those off.
...ah, what the hell
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.........But it wasn’t just the artefacts that captured Dr Benjamin’s imagination; it was where they were discovered that caught his attention. One of the first pages in Dr Benjamin’s own book Submerged Prehistory, of which he is the principal editor, is dedicated to a remarkable graph which shows global sea level rise of up to 130 metres between 18,000 and 5,000 years ago.

Given the tendency of humans to establish settlements along the coast, and early human migratory patterns, which also follow coastal routes, it’s not difficult to appreciate just how many settlements might have been swallowed up by the ocean over the past 15,000 years.

Surprisingly, in spite of the apparently self-evident nature of that conclusion, and 30 years after the remarkably well-preserved discoveries from Denmark (with further work pouring in from around the world), prehistoric underwater archaeologists are still relatively rare..........
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.pasthorizonspr.com]
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unfortunately. most all early Mesoamerican records were destroyed. it is interesting that cuzco and most all sacred places of the incas were built high in the andre's mountains safe from flooding
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That was my thought as well.

Vantage Point.


I was thinking about this the other day. Regarding the ancient sites being on 'top of mountains'. I thought to myself,

Why there?

Then thought...they were afraid of the water.

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Yes, and it would be difficult strategically for a hostile tribe/group/raiding group to attack them...Forts are at the top of hills/mountains/steep cliffs....Or on River banks...Or both.
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I heard that very distinctly.

And it resonated at the time...

Rippling
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I feel its time to retook at Ham...
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Good morning everyone.

Thought I would stop by real quick.

The entire night last night of dreams was of water. Massive waves drowning cities. I was always on boats, and surfboards, and seeing waves taller than any building crashing down through cities. I drowned many times, but always there was more.
 Quoting: Pattern Recognition


good morning

oh dear, that feels unpleasant for you to experience, i hope you shake off the emotional effects quickly
 Quoting: aether


These kind are too bad emotionally. They are more exciting to me than others. There are others that are really bad. I don't really tell anyone about them. Wifey can tell when I have the difficult ones. Takes me about the entire day to shake those off.
 Quoting: Pattern Recognition


yes, i wonder what it means, why would you experience that which prompts the most difficult to experience , frequently

why does your experience repeat
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The real flood: Submerged prehistory

.........But it wasn’t just the artefacts that captured Dr Benjamin’s imagination; it was where they were discovered that caught his attention. One of the first pages in Dr Benjamin’s own book Submerged Prehistory, of which he is the principal editor, is dedicated to a remarkable graph which shows global sea level rise of up to 130 metres between 18,000 and 5,000 years ago.

Given the tendency of humans to establish settlements along the coast, and early human migratory patterns, which also follow coastal routes, it’s not difficult to appreciate just how many settlements might have been swallowed up by the ocean over the past 15,000 years.

Surprisingly, in spite of the apparently self-evident nature of that conclusion, and 30 years after the remarkably well-preserved discoveries from Denmark (with further work pouring in from around the world), prehistoric underwater archaeologists are still relatively rare..........
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.pasthorizonspr.com]
 Quoting: aether


unfortunately. most all early Mesoamerican records were destroyed. it is interesting that cuzco and most all sacred places of the incas were built high in the andre's mountains safe from flooding
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That was my thought as well.

Vantage Point.


I was thinking about this the other day. Regarding the ancient sites being on 'top of mountains'. I thought to myself,

Why there?

Then thought...they were afraid of the water.

 Quoting: Seer777


Yes, and it would be difficult strategically for a hostile tribe/group/raiding group to attack them...Forts are at the top of hills/mountains/steep cliffs....Or on River banks...Or both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10822933


I heard that very distinctly.

And it resonated at the time...

Rippling
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Seer777


imagine the scale of emotional of water fear existing within gaia`s ancestral memory fields caused by the scale of that experience
we believe it was an abrupt experience form the pole thus it did just what is dreamed, it rushed from one location upon gaia to many locations upon gaia taking everything within it`s path , pole to pole

when the rush comes

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for visuals only:

.............. The equatorial bulge, which amounts to about 10 miles, was no obstacle for the initial wave from the North Atlantic and the North Pacific, which probably stood miles high, as it headed south toward the other pole. Piling much higher at the South Pole, the rebounding waves would spread over a wider area, so that, for example, India and Eastern Australia were inundated by a northwesterly directed rebound from the Antarctic. The contents of the South Asian continental shelves and the lowlands were piled on the south slopes of the Himalayas. A secondary rebound of this wave struck across Australia from the northwest.

The Pampas of Argentina were scoured clean and the soil consolidated and deposited in valleys. Eastern Brazil and the West African bulge were similarly attacked by water from the south. We see this also where the low-lying Southeastern United States juts out into the Atlantic. The Western United States, which narrows the Pacific Ocean, was breached by the rebounding waves from the south. The water rushed over the coastal mountains to drop into the valleys beyond.

At the Bering Straits the rebounding Pacific waters had no oceanic escape, and swept over Alaska and Western Canada, as well as Northern China. In these locations we often find many feet of silt and loess, with only a thin layer of black soil (humus) at the top. The fossil content of Alaskan river valleys has always astounded archaeologists with its content of broken bones and splintered wood -- many from temperate and tropical areas. [note 3]

Where the waves had lowered because of a wide ocean, as in Southeastern United States, we find an admixture of marine organisms with scoured remains of plants, trees, animals, and soil. Elephant remains have been found in the Southeastern United States, mixed with unfossilized (closed) seashells. Lower secondary rebounding waves often deposited marine species above the layers of land animals and plants.

Where was it safe for humans? Although the initial tsunamis overran coastal mountains and even land glaciers (Antarctica also shows evidence of flooding), inland away from the coasts and on higher ground would have provided safe places -- the east side of the Andes, and the central regions of Asia, Europe, and Africa. Coastal areas which run in a north-south direction were also safe, for the waves would not be forced inland. But any coastal areas which stood in the path of the waves would be overrun by water. In some regions, we can surmise, a wall of water ran for hundreds of miles across relatively flat land, building giant dunes, as in areas of Australia and the Western United States. Remains of whales have been found in the Andes, in the Sahara, and in the state of Michigan.

The Mediterranean regions, surrounding an inland sea, were little affected, as also the upper reaches of Mesopotamia and Anatolia. The waters headed north from the Indian Ocean for the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf would have battered Somalia and Oman respectively. But the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf are additionally protected by their pinched southern necks. The Sumerians certainly had flood myths, but the Egyptians do not. ............
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hi
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hi
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are you sun tanned tounge
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The real flood: Submerged prehistory

...

[link to www.pasthorizonspr.com]
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unfortunately. most all early Mesoamerican records were destroyed. it is interesting that cuzco and most all sacred places of the incas were built high in the andre's mountains safe from flooding
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That was my thought as well.

...


Yes, and it would be difficult strategically for a hostile tribe/group/raiding group to attack them...Forts are at the top of hills/mountains/steep cliffs....Or on River banks...Or both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10822933


I heard that very distinctly.

And it resonated at the time...

Rippling
 Quoting: Seer777

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imagine the scale of emotional of water fear existing within gaia`s ancestral memory fields caused by the scale of that experience
we believe it was an abrupt experience form the pole thus it did just what is dreamed, it rushed from one location upon gaia to many locations upon gaia taking everything within it`s path , pole to pole

when the rush comes
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Why else would they build up there? I have also considered that is how the large stones were transported.

Over the high water on boats.

Maybe.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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unfortunately. most all early Mesoamerican records were destroyed. it is interesting that cuzco and most all sacred places of the incas were built high in the andre's mountains safe from flooding
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That was my thought as well.

...


I heard that very distinctly.

And it resonated at the time...

Rippling
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Seer777


imagine the scale of emotional of water fear existing within gaia`s ancestral memory fields caused by the scale of that experience
we believe it was an abrupt experience form the pole thus it did just what is dreamed, it rushed from one location upon gaia to many locations upon gaia taking everything within it`s path , pole to pole

when the rush comes
 Quoting: aether


Why else would they build up there? I have also considered that is how the large stones were transported.

Over the high water on boats.

Maybe.
 Quoting: Seer777


it was interesting when you did that because it prompted 2 signals
1 signal from the constructors of the original thought bedrock manipulators which said "that is true but not true of us"
and a signal which said "true" as in: you are right coming from ancestors going way back
it is a distinctive at the time of your post and is the first time of experiencing 2 replies at once

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You guys ever seen a T and O map?
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I should apologize. .I had posted without reading the depth of the moment of information being exchanged. I am sorry for that
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You guys ever seen a T and O map?
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i don`t know it
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I should apologize. .I had posted without reading the depth of the moment of information being exchanged. I am sorry for that
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your posts feel fine to me 007
good afternoon tounge
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I should apologize. .I had posted without reading the depth of the moment of information being exchanged. I am sorry for that
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your posts feel fine to me 007
good afternoon tounge
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Good afternoon. ..I can't leave a link so you will have to google the map..also the old maps point east and not north...or the Beatis map does
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I should apologize. .I had posted without reading the depth of the moment of information being exchanged. I am sorry for that
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your posts feel fine to me 007
good afternoon tounge
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Good afternoon. ..I can't leave a link so you will have to google the map..also the old maps point east and not north...or the Beatis map does
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Beatus map

The Beatus Map or Beatine Map is one of the most significant cartographic works of the European High Middle Ages: It was originally drawn by the Spanish monk Beatus of Liébana, based on the accounts given by Saint Isidore of Seville, Ptolemy and the Holy Bible. Although the original manuscript is lost, there remain several copies extant, which retain a high fidelity with respect the original.

The Map is shown in the prologue of the second book of Beatus' work Commentary on the Apocalypse..
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oh

Commentary on the Apocalypse

The work is structured around selections from previous Apocalypse commentaries and references by Tyconius (now mostly lost), St. Primasius of Hadrumentum, St. Caesarius of Arles, St. Apringius of Beja, and many others.
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we see this often, memories and traditions from our past become incorporated into prophecy of our future
it often seems

likley because similar catastrophic did repeat frequently through planetary re alignment aeons
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Did you view the T and O map?
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hi
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are you sun tanned tounge
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Very grinning
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Desire is suffering...so says the Buddha.


However.

Does desire not drive one forward? To whatever end? Desire is choice? Or is instinctual?

I am cold...I desire heat.
My desire is suffering until it is met when I walk inside and place myself around the heater IOW...


What is IT to KNOW cold, to Know HEAT, is just within reach and deny oneself of said?


To deny 'want' continually, what does one find?

Equilibrium? Or their own 'demons' haunting them?


BuddhaPinch
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I feel like bumping this. Not sure why yet.
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Desire is suffering...so says the Buddha.


However.

Does desire not drive one forward? To whatever end? Desire is choice? Or is instinctual?

I am cold...I desire heat.
My desire is suffering until it is met when I walk inside and place myself around the heater IOW...


What is IT to KNOW cold, to Know HEAT, is just within reach and deny oneself of said?


To deny 'want' continually, what does one find?

Equilibrium? Or their own 'demons' haunting them?


:BuddhaPinch:
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I feel like bumping this. Not sure why yet.
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If you dont mind me asking..what about kicking down a door and me replying I wish you would?
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Desire is suffering...so says the Buddha.


However.

Does desire not drive one forward? To whatever end? Desire is choice? Or is instinctual?

I am cold...I desire heat.
My desire is suffering until it is met when I walk inside and place myself around the heater IOW...


What is IT to KNOW cold, to Know HEAT, is just within reach and deny oneself of said?


To deny 'want' continually, what does one find?

Equilibrium? Or their own 'demons' haunting them?


BuddhaPinch
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I feel like bumping this. Not sure why yet.
 Quoting: Seer777


If you dont mind me asking..what about kicking down a door and me replying I wish you would?
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I was uncertain of your identity. And that was a strange day for me.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Desire is suffering...so says the Buddha.


However.

Does desire not drive one forward? To whatever end? Desire is choice? Or is instinctual?

I am cold...I desire heat.
My desire is suffering until it is met when I walk inside and place myself around the heater IOW...


What is IT to KNOW cold, to Know HEAT, is just within reach and deny oneself of said?


To deny 'want' continually, what does one find?

Equilibrium? Or their own 'demons' haunting them?


:BuddhaPinch:
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I feel like bumping this. Not sure why yet.
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If you dont mind me asking..what about kicking down a door and me replying I wish you would?
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I was uncertain of your identity. And that was a strange day for me.
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How are you feeling today hun?
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Such a day in fact, I nearly deleted my account to never return. However, I decided to sleep on it before making that choice.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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