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Advanced light: Sending entangled beams through fast-light materials

..........Paul Lett and his colleagues at the Joint Quantum Institute specialize in producing modulated beams of light for encoding information. They haven't found a way to move data faster than c, the speed of light in a vacuum, but in a new experiment they have looked at how light traveling through so called "fast-light" materials does seem to advance faster than c, at least in one limited sense. They report their results (online as of 25 May 2014) in the journal Nature Photonics.

Seeing how light can be manipulated in this way requires a look at several key concepts, such as entanglement, mutual information, and anomalous dispersion. At the end we'll arrive at a forefront result.

Continuous variable entanglement

..........
 Quoting: observation

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Advanced light: Sending entangled beams through fast-light materials

..........Paul Lett and his colleagues at the Joint Quantum Institute specialize in producing modulated beams of light for encoding information. They haven't found a way to move data faster than c, the speed of light in a vacuum, but in a new experiment they have looked at how light traveling through so called "fast-light" materials does seem to advance faster than c, at least in one limited sense. They report their results (online as of 25 May 2014) in the journal Nature Photonics.

Seeing how light can be manipulated in this way requires a look at several key concepts, such as entanglement, mutual information, and anomalous dispersion. At the end we'll arrive at a forefront result.

Continuous variable entanglement

..........
 Quoting: observation

[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: aether


The utility of qubits increases when two or more of them can be yoked into a larger quantum arrangement, a process called entanglement. Two entangled photons are not really sovereign particles but parts of a single quantum entity.
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the only way 2 somethings cause each other to experience visible sign(s) of empathy causing each of them to visibly express/experience themselves the same way no matter the distance between them will occur is when the structure of the distance between them functions in a manner to cause that to be true

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Look at the collapse and decay of nuclear materials. Gamma and x rays are akin to charged light. Positrons and electrons lose their anchors and flee to balance; As light creates corners of entanglement in material space.
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Hubble Detects Faster-Than-Light Motion in Galaxy M87
January 6, 1999

...

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oh
that causes globalization to be the visible sign of over unity (self organizing) process causing noticeable singular effect group dynamic to become true because the group dynamic is faster to cause that to become true thus globalization is the expression of global group dynamic causing effect by it`s visible arising into visibility
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Self organising carbon clusters within the encompassing field, seers find the others theme :)

Just the same way plasma causes dust to form in a helical model out in space, self organising.

The blueprint (plasma) is self organising, so are we, dynamics is more than just supplication and aggrandizement, it is the play of energy, the game of tennis, a good serve, a nice return, you know how each plays and all play as a unit or team or, machine.

Hey yo Groucho
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does it support swimming to tounge
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All metaphors and anolgy's
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Carbon is ok as a substrate, but not as a conductor. Metal oxides wouldn't be available in space, likely we are looking to dispersed nanometalloids or a quality of background radiation as an aether.

Ionized potential, akin to the nervous system, but in this case the diaphonous gauze between the material and immaterial.

Smells like ectoplasm.
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Mice habitat is a transition area. The big vector in the tick area population is the cycle where they infect the mice.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


An ecotone is a transition area between two biomes.[1] It is where two communities meet and integrate.[2] It may be narrow or wide, and it may be local (the zone between a field and forest) or regional (the transition between forest and grassland ecosystems).[3] An ecotone may appear on the ground as a gradual blending of the two communities across a broad area, or it may manifest itself as a sharp boundary line.

The word ecotone was coined from a combination of eco(logy) plus -tone, from the Greek tonos or tension – in other words, a place where ecologies are in tension.



This picture of ecotones looks alot like Septs designs
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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"You see . . . time is not exclusively linear as when it's depicted in a timeline. Time is vertical with every moment in existence stacked upon the next and all coinciding with one another. In other words, time is the collective of all moments of all experience simultaneously existing within non-time, which is usually referred to as eternity." -Dr. Anderson

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That doesn't sound like a 'circle' at all, which is how I've thought of it..
Eternity is non-time? I thought it meant infinity, idk "non-time" seems very confusing.


Good Morning and probably good night at any moment :-)

hi
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That, I picture a pencil as time with every moment as rings stacked around the pencil. Don't know if that is what he meant though.
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Mice habitat is a transition area. The big vector in the tick area population is the cycle where they infect the mice.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


An ecotone is a transition area between two biomes.[1] It is where two communities meet and integrate.[2] It may be narrow or wide, and it may be local (the zone between a field and forest) or regional (the transition between forest and grassland ecosystems).[3] An ecotone may appear on the ground as a gradual blending of the two communities across a broad area, or it may manifest itself as a sharp boundary line.

The word ecotone was coined from a combination of eco(logy) plus -tone, from the Greek tonos or tension – in other words, a place where ecologies are in tension.



This picture of ecotones looks alot like Septs designs
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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is "transition area between two biomes" similar to abyss (t hel ema)
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Mice habitat is a transition area. The big vector in the tick area population is the cycle where they infect the mice.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


An ecotone is a transition area between two biomes.[1] It is where two communities meet and integrate.[2] It may be narrow or wide, and it may be local (the zone between a field and forest) or regional (the transition between forest and grassland ecosystems).[3] An ecotone may appear on the ground as a gradual blending of the two communities across a broad area, or it may manifest itself as a sharp boundary line.

The word ecotone was coined from a combination of eco(logy) plus -tone, from the Greek tonos or tension – in other words, a place where ecologies are in tension.



This picture of ecotones looks alot like Septs designs
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Fancypantz


is "transition area between two biomes" similar to abyss (t hel ema)
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looks like it possess tensegrity to
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Mice habitat is a transition area. The big vector in the tick area population is the cycle where they infect the mice.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


An ecotone is a transition area between two biomes.[1] It is where two communities meet and integrate.[2] It may be narrow or wide, and it may be local (the zone between a field and forest) or regional (the transition between forest and grassland ecosystems).[3] An ecotone may appear on the ground as a gradual blending of the two communities across a broad area, or it may manifest itself as a sharp boundary line.

The word ecotone was coined from a combination of eco(logy) plus -tone, from the Greek tonos or tension – in other words, a place where ecologies are in tension.



This picture of ecotones looks alot like Septs designs
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Fancypantz


is "transition area between two biomes" similar to abyss (t hel ema)
 Quoting: aether


looks like it possess tensegrity to
 Quoting: aether


Tensegrity is a term used by Carlos Castaneda to refer to the modern form of the way of being taught to him by his teacher Don Juan Matus, and includes some movements called magical passes (positions of body and breath) that he said were developed by indigenous peoples of the Americas who lived in Mexico in times prior to the Spanish conquest................
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

oh

it is gift economy culture information
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thought

does this :

hive : a place in which people are busily occupied.
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sound like the structure of consciousness when we add emotional experience of our own design
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Shiva and Krishna were connected to the bee.
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Mice habitat is a transition area. The big vector in the tick area population is the cycle where they infect the mice.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


An ecotone is a transition area between two biomes.[1] It is where two communities meet and integrate.[2] It may be narrow or wide, and it may be local (the zone between a field and forest) or regional (the transition between forest and grassland ecosystems).[3] An ecotone may appear on the ground as a gradual blending of the two communities across a broad area, or it may manifest itself as a sharp boundary line.

The word ecotone was coined from a combination of eco(logy) plus -tone, from the Greek tonos or tension – in other words, a place where ecologies are in tension.



This picture of ecotones looks alot like Septs designs
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Fancypantz


is "transition area between two biomes" similar to abyss (t hel ema)
 Quoting: aether


looks like it possess tensegrity to
 Quoting: aether


Tensegrity is a term used by Carlos Castaneda to refer to the modern form of the way of being taught to him by his teacher Don Juan Matus, and includes some movements called magical passes (positions of body and breath) that he said were developed by indigenous peoples of the Americas who lived in Mexico in times prior to the Spanish conquest................
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

oh

it is gift economy culture information
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well that is a thought
how does gift economy moral magic cause effect
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Hey Wf, have you looked into Amaranth? Just came up and noticed it was 80% calories of Aztecs diet and says:

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Amaranth may be a promising source of protein to those who are gluten sensitive, because unlike the protein found in grains such as wheat and rye, its protein does not contain gluten.[27] According to a 2007 report, amaranth compares well in nutrient content with gluten-free vegetarian options such as buckwheat, corn, millet, wild rice, oats and quinoa.

So, if you get tired of buckwheat, lol
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Hey Wf, have you looked into Amaranth? Just came up and noticed it was 80% calories of Aztecs diet and says:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Amaranth may be a promising source of protein to those who are gluten sensitive, because unlike the protein found in grains such as wheat and rye, its protein does not contain gluten.[27] According to a 2007 report, amaranth compares well in nutrient content with gluten-free vegetarian options such as buckwheat, corn, millet, wild rice, oats and quinoa.

So, if you get tired of buckwheat, lol
 Quoting: Fancypantz


a clever lifestyle our inca inherited was the management of water and food over great distance in mountainous terrain
what they did was build huge terraces up the sides of mountains for several thousand feet then went much higher up the same mountain and designed water to irrigate from top to bottom of the terraces and each terrace, because of the altitude difference, supplies a micro climate crop thus variety of food of mass natural production was continuous once the infrastructure of terracing and water supply was in place, subject to maintenance for as long as climate conditions remained reasonably manageable

as example

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Mice habitat is a transition area. The big vector in the tick area population is the cycle where they infect the mice.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


An ecotone is a transition area between two biomes.[1] It is where two communities meet and integrate.[2] It may be narrow or wide, and it may be local (the zone between a field and forest) or regional (the transition between forest and grassland ecosystems).[3] An ecotone may appear on the ground as a gradual blending of the two communities across a broad area, or it may manifest itself as a sharp boundary line.

The word ecotone was coined from a combination of eco(logy) plus -tone, from the Greek tonos or tension – in other words, a place where ecologies are in tension.



This picture of ecotones looks alot like Septs designs
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Fancypantz


is "transition area between two biomes" similar to abyss (t hel ema)
 Quoting: aether


looks like it possess tensegrity to
 Quoting: aether


velocity and tone as well
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Mice habitat is a transition area. The big vector in the tick area population is the cycle where they infect the mice.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


An ecotone is a transition area between two biomes.[1] It is where two communities meet and integrate.[2] It may be narrow or wide, and it may be local (the zone between a field and forest) or regional (the transition between forest and grassland ecosystems).[3] An ecotone may appear on the ground as a gradual blending of the two communities across a broad area, or it may manifest itself as a sharp boundary line.

The word ecotone was coined from a combination of eco(logy) plus -tone, from the Greek tonos or tension – in other words, a place where ecologies are in tension.



This picture of ecotones looks alot like Septs designs
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Fancypantz


is "transition area between two biomes" similar to abyss (t hel ema)
 Quoting: aether


looks like it possess tensegrity to
 Quoting: aether


velocity and tone as well
 Quoting: Fancypantz


true

depth and shape of the impression
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Good morning everyone. :)


Quick thought from last night. If Solomon had access to 1000 women, where are all the progeny?

Found this...
This apparent lack of children for King Solomon is really a glaring omission, if in fact it is an omission. It would seem that a man with a harem of 1000 would surely have descendents as the numbers of the sands of the sea, to borrow a metaphor from scripture.

The statistical odds of producing a child from one incident of breeding alone place the probability of pregnancy at 3-5 percent. This would normally translate to a 1 in 25 chance, or 1 in 24 considering the probability of miscarriage. If Solomon never had intimate relations with any of his harem beyond once at the time of acquisition, he must have sired at least 40-45 children. Moreover, scripture contends that Solomon also loved many foreign women in addition to his harem of 1000. There is just no accounting of what constitutes "many" other foreign women. This number of 40-45 offspring should be attained if just warehousing the women in the harem after one act of consummation considering the breeding potential of a 30-year-old woman. Since 30 would have been geriatric for such women in those days, the actual probability of conception would be somewhat higher. If one considers that the normal number of offspring in that time and area would probably be more than five per female, it appears that Solomon should have had at least 5000 children. Just considering the collection of scripture as a whole, it is very strange that there is no mention of the incredible number of offspring. Siring 40 to 45 children should be quite remarkable to say the least.

This leaves the perplexing problem of explaining what happened to all of those children as supported by scripture. Well, scripture actually does give an explanation as to what happen to all of these children, but it is difficult material.

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is "transition area between two biomes" similar to abyss (t hel ema)
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looks like it possess tensegrity to
 Quoting: aether


velocity and tone as well
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true

depth and shape of the impression
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both ways to thus never losing site of commonality is essential to keep the crossing alive
so the information you start with must not only fit what you cross, it must fit well enough the other side for the other side to support the crossing before the crossing will begin

trust
time over experience
time experience
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Advanced light: Sending entangled beams through fast-light materials

..........Paul Lett and his colleagues at the Joint Quantum Institute specialize in producing modulated beams of light for encoding information. They haven't found a way to move data faster than c, the speed of light in a vacuum, but in a new experiment they have looked at how light traveling through so called "fast-light" materials does seem to advance faster than c, at least in one limited sense. They report their results (online as of 25 May 2014) in the journal Nature Photonics.

Seeing how light can be manipulated in this way requires a look at several key concepts, such as entanglement, mutual information, and anomalous dispersion. At the end we'll arrive at a forefront result.

Continuous variable entanglement

..........
 Quoting: observation

[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: aether


The utility of qubits increases when two or more of them can be yoked into a larger quantum arrangement, a process called entanglement. Two entangled photons are not really sovereign particles but parts of a single quantum entity.
 Quoting: link


the only way 2 somethings cause each other to experience visible sign(s) of empathy causing each of them to visibly express/experience themselves the same way no matter the distance between them will occur is when the structure of the distance between them functions in a manner to cause that to be true
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Structure of the distance, is that compression?
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Good morning everyone. :)


Quick thought from last night. If Solomon had access to 1000 women, where are all the progeny?

Found this...
This apparent lack of children for King Solomon is really a glaring omission, if in fact it is an omission. It would seem that a man with a harem of 1000 would surely have descendents as the numbers of the sands of the sea, to borrow a metaphor from scripture.

The statistical odds of producing a child from one incident of breeding alone place the probability of pregnancy at 3-5 percent. This would normally translate to a 1 in 25 chance, or 1 in 24 considering the probability of miscarriage. If Solomon never had intimate relations with any of his harem beyond once at the time of acquisition, he must have sired at least 40-45 children. Moreover, scripture contends that Solomon also loved many foreign women in addition to his harem of 1000. There is just no accounting of what constitutes "many" other foreign women. This number of 40-45 offspring should be attained if just warehousing the women in the harem after one act of consummation considering the breeding potential of a 30-year-old woman. Since 30 would have been geriatric for such women in those days, the actual probability of conception would be somewhat higher. If one considers that the normal number of offspring in that time and area would probably be more than five per female, it appears that Solomon should have had at least 5000 children. Just considering the collection of scripture as a whole, it is very strange that there is no mention of the incredible number of offspring. Siring 40 to 45 children should be quite remarkable to say the least.

This leaves the perplexing problem of explaining what happened to all of those children as supported by scripture. Well, scripture actually does give an explanation as to what happen to all of these children, but it is difficult material.

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good morning

nice find
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Advanced light: Sending entangled beams through fast-light materials

..........Paul Lett and his colleagues at the Joint Quantum Institute specialize in producing modulated beams of light for encoding information. They haven't found a way to move data faster than c, the speed of light in a vacuum, but in a new experiment they have looked at how light traveling through so called "fast-light" materials does seem to advance faster than c, at least in one limited sense. They report their results (online as of 25 May 2014) in the journal Nature Photonics.

Seeing how light can be manipulated in this way requires a look at several key concepts, such as entanglement, mutual information, and anomalous dispersion. At the end we'll arrive at a forefront result.

Continuous variable entanglement

..........
 Quoting: observation

[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: aether


The utility of qubits increases when two or more of them can be yoked into a larger quantum arrangement, a process called entanglement. Two entangled photons are not really sovereign particles but parts of a single quantum entity.
 Quoting: link


the only way 2 somethings cause each other to experience visible sign(s) of empathy causing each of them to visibly express/experience themselves the same way no matter the distance between them will occur is when the structure of the distance between them functions in a manner to cause that to be true
 Quoting: aether


Structure of the distance, is that compression?
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must be, it seems
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Advanced light: Sending entangled beams through fast-light materials

...

[link to phys.org]
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The utility of qubits increases when two or more of them can be yoked into a larger quantum arrangement, a process called entanglement. Two entangled photons are not really sovereign particles but parts of a single quantum entity.
 Quoting: link


the only way 2 somethings cause each other to experience visible sign(s) of empathy causing each of them to visibly express/experience themselves the same way no matter the distance between them will occur is when the structure of the distance between them functions in a manner to cause that to be true
 Quoting: aether


Structure of the distance, is that compression?
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must be, it seems
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ability to move instantly = compassion

maybe
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Ability to move near instantly=Thought

By and through whatever means.

Ability to move near instantly without thought=reflex.

How does that feel?
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is "transition area between two biomes" similar to abyss (t hel ema)
 Quoting: aether


looks like it possess tensegrity to
 Quoting: aether


Tensegrity is a term used by Carlos Castaneda to refer to the modern form of the way of being taught to him by his teacher Don Juan Matus, and includes some movements called magical passes (positions of body and breath) that he said were developed by indigenous peoples of the Americas who lived in Mexico in times prior to the Spanish conquest................
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

oh

it is gift economy culture information
 Quoting: aether


well that is a thought
how does gift economy moral magic cause effect
 Quoting: aether

Don't know. Was in a video blog about being aware of ticks and how to avoid them during their high time cycles. Like knowing the habitats and their cycles causes knowing the dangers to avoid.
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Hey Wf, have you looked into Amaranth? Just came up and noticed it was 80% calories of Aztecs diet and says:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Amaranth may be a promising source of protein to those who are gluten sensitive, because unlike the protein found in grains such as wheat and rye, its protein does not contain gluten.[27] According to a 2007 report, amaranth compares well in nutrient content with gluten-free vegetarian options such as buckwheat, corn, millet, wild rice, oats and quinoa.

So, if you get tired of buckwheat, lol
 Quoting: Fancypantz


a clever lifestyle our inca inherited was the management of water and food over great distance in mountainous terrain
what they did was build huge terraces up the sides of mountains for several thousand feet then went much higher up the same mountain and designed water to irrigate from top to bottom of the terraces and each terrace, because of the altitude difference, supplies a micro climate crop thus variety of food of mass natural production was continuous once the infrastructure of terracing and water supply was in place, subject to maintenance for as long as climate conditions remained reasonably manageable

as example
 Quoting: aether


China does the terraces too. I wonder if they always had rice or was micro climate crop.
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Good morning everyone. :)


Quick thought from last night. If Solomon had access to 1000 women, where are all the progeny?

Found this...
This apparent lack of children for King Solomon is really a glaring omission, if in fact it is an omission. It would seem that a man with a harem of 1000 would surely have descendents as the numbers of the sands of the sea, to borrow a metaphor from scripture.

The statistical odds of producing a child from one incident of breeding alone place the probability of pregnancy at 3-5 percent. This would normally translate to a 1 in 25 chance, or 1 in 24 considering the probability of miscarriage. If Solomon never had intimate relations with any of his harem beyond once at the time of acquisition, he must have sired at least 40-45 children. Moreover, scripture contends that Solomon also loved many foreign women in addition to his harem of 1000. There is just no accounting of what constitutes "many" other foreign women. This number of 40-45 offspring should be attained if just warehousing the women in the harem after one act of consummation considering the breeding potential of a 30-year-old woman. Since 30 would have been geriatric for such women in those days, the actual probability of conception would be somewhat higher. If one considers that the normal number of offspring in that time and area would probably be more than five per female, it appears that Solomon should have had at least 5000 children. Just considering the collection of scripture as a whole, it is very strange that there is no mention of the incredible number of offspring. Siring 40 to 45 children should be quite remarkable to say the least.

This leaves the perplexing problem of explaining what happened to all of those children as supported by scripture. Well, scripture actually does give an explanation as to what happen to all of these children, but it is difficult material.

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 Quoting: Seer777


Good question.
There is debate as to whether he wrote Song of Songs as well.

The Song offers no clue to its author or to the date, place or circumstances of its composition.[11] The superscription states that it is "Solomon's", but even if this is meant to identify the author, it cannot be read as strictly as a similar modern statement.[12] The most reliable evidence for its date is its language: Aramaic gradually replaced Hebrew after the end of the Babylonian exile in the late 6th century BCE, and the evidence of vocabulary, morphology, idiom and syntax clearly points to a late date.[13] It has long been recognised that the Song has parallels with the pastoral idylls of Theocritus, a Greek poet who wrote in the first half of the 3rd century BCE;[14] against this, it clearly shows the influence of Mesopotamian and Egyptian love-poetry, and is probably even closer to Egyptian love-poetry from the first half of the 1st millennium than to Greek parallels from the last.[15][16] As a result of these conflicting signs, speculation ranges from the 10th to the 2nd centuries BCE,[11] with the cumulative evidence supporting a later rather than an earlier date.[17]

The unity (or not) of the Song continues to be debated. Those who see it as an anthology or collection point to the abrupt shifts of scene, speaker, subject matter and mood, and the lack of obvious structure or narrative. Those who hold it to be a single poem point out that it has no internal signs of composite origins, and view the repetitions and similarities among its parts as evidence of unity. Some claim to find a conscious artistic design underlying it, but there is no agreement among them on what this might be. The question therefore remains unresolved.[18]

The setting in which the poem arose is also debated.[19] Some have posited a ritual origin in the celebration of the sacred marriage of the god Tammuz and the goddess Ishtar; whether this is so or not, (most scholars seem to doubt the idea), the poem does seem to be rooted in some kind of festive performance.[19] External evidence supports the idea that the Song was originally recited by different singers representing the different characters, accompanied by mime.

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This sounds familiar. Why do the myths all echo each other?

Tammuz, like Osiris of Egypt, was an agricultural deity, and as the Babylonian harvest was the gift of the rivers, it is probable that one of his several forms was Dumu-zi-abzu, "Tammuz of the Abyss". He was also "the child", "the heroic lord", "the sentinel", "the healer", and the patriarch who reigned over the early Babylonians for a considerable period.

"Tammuz of the Abyss" was one of the members of the family of Ea, god of the Deep, whose other sons, in addition to Merodach, were Nira, an obscure deity; Ki-gulla, "world destroyer", Burnunta-sa, "broad ear", and Bara and Baragulla, probably "revealers" or "oracles". In addition there was a daughter, Khi-dimme-azaga, "child of the renowned spirit". She may have been identical with Belit-sheri, who is referred to in the Sumerian hymns as the sister of Tammuz. This family group was probably formed by symbolizing the attributes of Ea and his spouse Damkina. Tammuz, in his character as a patriarch, may have been regarded as a hostage from the gods: the human form of Ea, who instructed mankind, like King Osiris, how to grow corn and cultivate fruit trees. As the youth who perished annually, he was the corn spirit. He is referred to in the Bible by his Babylonian name.


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Good morning everyone. :)


Quick thought from last night. If Solomon had access to 1000 women, where are all the progeny?

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This apparent lack of children for King Solomon is really a glaring omission, if in fact it is an omission. It would seem that a man with a harem of 1000 would surely have descendents as the numbers of the sands of the sea, to borrow a metaphor from scripture.

The statistical odds of producing a child from one incident of breeding alone place the probability of pregnancy at 3-5 percent. This would normally translate to a 1 in 25 chance, or 1 in 24 considering the probability of miscarriage. If Solomon never had intimate relations with any of his harem beyond once at the time of acquisition, he must have sired at least 40-45 children. Moreover, scripture contends that Solomon also loved many foreign women in addition to his harem of 1000. There is just no accounting of what constitutes "many" other foreign women. This number of 40-45 offspring should be attained if just warehousing the women in the harem after one act of consummation considering the breeding potential of a 30-year-old woman. Since 30 would have been geriatric for such women in those days, the actual probability of conception would be somewhat higher. If one considers that the normal number of offspring in that time and area would probably be more than five per female, it appears that Solomon should have had at least 5000 children. Just considering the collection of scripture as a whole, it is very strange that there is no mention of the incredible number of offspring. Siring 40 to 45 children should be quite remarkable to say the least.

This leaves the perplexing problem of explaining what happened to all of those children as supported by scripture. Well, scripture actually does give an explanation as to what happen to all of these children, but it is difficult material.

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morning seer and all hf

Something about that Solomon guy I really don't like, he comes across like one of those sick cult leaders out to exploit women. I don't know much about him, only that he bound the DJ*** (I dislike saying that word, it tends to create a bad effect in this thread).

I bet all those women were not gifted out of love, more than likely fear.

Like a ye old evel psychopath lol
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This is really cool. In case you missed it.
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Good morning everyone. :)


Quick thought from last night. If Solomon had access to 1000 women, where are all the progeny?

Found this...
This apparent lack of children for King Solomon is really a glaring omission, if in fact it is an omission. It would seem that a man with a harem of 1000 would surely have descendents as the numbers of the sands of the sea, to borrow a metaphor from scripture.

The statistical odds of producing a child from one incident of breeding alone place the probability of pregnancy at 3-5 percent. This would normally translate to a 1 in 25 chance, or 1 in 24 considering the probability of miscarriage. If Solomon never had intimate relations with any of his harem beyond once at the time of acquisition, he must have sired at least 40-45 children. Moreover, scripture contends that Solomon also loved many foreign women in addition to his harem of 1000. There is just no accounting of what constitutes "many" other foreign women. This number of 40-45 offspring should be attained if just warehousing the women in the harem after one act of consummation considering the breeding potential of a 30-year-old woman. Since 30 would have been geriatric for such women in those days, the actual probability of conception would be somewhat higher. If one considers that the normal number of offspring in that time and area would probably be more than five per female, it appears that Solomon should have had at least 5000 children. Just considering the collection of scripture as a whole, it is very strange that there is no mention of the incredible number of offspring. Siring 40 to 45 children should be quite remarkable to say the least.

This leaves the perplexing problem of explaining what happened to all of those children as supported by scripture. Well, scripture actually does give an explanation as to what happen to all of these children, but it is difficult material.

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morning seer and all hf

Something about that Solomon guy I really don't like, he comes across like one of those sick cult leaders out to exploit women. I don't know much about him, only that he bound the DJ*** (I dislike saying that word, it tends to create a bad effect in this thread).

I bet all those women were not gifted out of love, more than likely fear.

Like a ye old evel psychopath lol
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Morning Songs.

Like Dion mentioned, it very well might have been a type of breeding 'means to an end'. I would be willing to bet that the women were not...'unattractive' and were garnered due their look.

Breeding with attractive women will often but not always=attractive children. Attractive people have a higher likelihood of attracting, wealth and power.


I think what is in question is Solomon's virility.
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