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thanks aether!

chronos - you are suspended and time moves past you
kairos - time is suspended and you move through it

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[link to oi62.tinypic.com]
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you guys /z\\z/ match




...


look at my ac number

do you recognize a pattern?
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I do. As I have seen '222' thrice in the last 3 minutes.

lol.

Evening everyone.
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hi seer
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Heya. hi

Here is what else I noticed.

5/ 33(6)/ 9/ 6

Your link reminds me of this. Also a clock.
[link to tinypic.com]

Naval
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look at my ac number

do you recognize a pattern?
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I do. As I have seen '222' thrice in the last 3 minutes.

lol.

Evening everyone.
 Quoting: Seer777


hi seer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53318222


Heya. hi

Here is what else I noticed.

5/ 33(6)/ 9/ 6

Your link reminds me of this. Also a clock.
[link to tinypic.com]

Naval
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pinheadfraction
...ah, what the hell
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thanks aether!

chronos - you are suspended and time moves past you
kairos - time is suspended and you move through it

:plntrysprlmtn:

[link to oi62.tinypic.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39453685



you guys /z\\z/ match




...


I do. As I have seen '222' thrice in the last 3 minutes.

lol.

Evening everyone.
 Quoting: Seer777


hi seer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53318222


Heya. hi

Here is what else I noticed.

5/ 33(6)/ 9/ 6

Your link reminds me of this. Also a clock.
[link to tinypic.com]

:Naval:
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: aether


The top picture reminded me wingmakers
"You see . . . time is not exclusively linear as when it's depicted in a timeline. Time is vertical with every moment in existence stacked upon the next and all coinciding with one another. In other words, time is the collective of all moments of all experience simultaneously existing within non-time, which is usually referred to as eternity." -Dr. Anderson

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That doesn't sound like a 'circle' at all, which is how I've thought of it..
Eternity is non-time? I thought it meant infinity, idk "non-time" seems very confusing.


Good Morning and probably good night at any moment :-)

hi
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That, I picture a pencil as time with every moment as rings stacked around the pencil. Don't know if that is what he meant though.
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Seer, finally read some of that slenderman thread and when I did the power went outblink
But strange thing too, was boundary like veils/gateways have been prominent lately coming up in legends and fiction.
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Isn't that /z\ from this \z/?


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One of the only vids I have shared on FB. I got 1 like. ;)
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Seer, finally read some of that slenderman thread and when I did the power went outblink
But strange thing too, was boundary like veils/gateways have been prominent lately coming up in legends and fiction.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


veils came up today as in the electromagnetic society is the society that pierces the veil because we see beyond sight (light)

Light is radiant energy, usually referring to electromagnetic radiation that is visible to the human eye, and is responsible for the sense of sight......
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and if we superimpose the notion of conscious onto the notion of veil in that context do we see light

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Seer, finally read some of that slenderman thread and when I did the power went outblink
But strange thing too, was boundary like veils/gateways have been prominent lately coming up in legends and fiction.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


That part stood out to me as well. I was waiting to see if anyone else noticed.

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Isn't that /z\ from this \z/?


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

One of the only vids I have shared on FB. I got 1 like. ;)
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Yes it is
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Seer, finally read some of that slenderman thread and when I did the power went outblink
But strange thing too, was boundary like veils/gateways have been prominent lately coming up in legends and fiction.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


veils came up today as in the electromagnetic society is the society that pierces the veil because we see beyond sight (light)

Light is radiant energy, usually referring to electromagnetic radiation that is visible to the human eye, and is responsible for the sense of sight......
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and if we superimpose the notion of conscious onto the notion of veil in that context do we see light
 Quoting: aether


The way it was coming up was like the veil boundary was a type of underworld and the way to navigate through it was with a wisp of light or would one would be pulled under by the voices of the underworld.

Then the other was like a gateway/door between worlds was I think where two streams meet at the head and the only way to cross was with someone from the other world. I wonder if that could be where two rivers meet as well.
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Seer, finally read some of that slenderman thread and when I did the power went outblink
But strange thing too, was boundary like veils/gateways have been prominent lately coming up in legends and fiction.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


veils came up today as in the electromagnetic society is the society that pierces the veil because we see beyond sight (light)

Light is radiant energy, usually referring to electromagnetic radiation that is visible to the human eye, and is responsible for the sense of sight......
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and if we superimpose the notion of conscious onto the notion of veil in that context do we see light
 Quoting: aether


The way it was coming up was like the veil boundary was a type of underworld and the way to navigate through it was with a wisp of light or would one would be pulled under by the voices of the underworld.

Then the other was like a gateway/door between worlds was I think where two streams meet at the head and the only way to cross was with someone from the other world. I wonder if that could be where two rivers meet as well.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


Is that one with Enki and his sister in the Underworld? I was thinking about that one yesterday.

 Quoting: aether


Enki and Ereshkigal as twins share close ties, and when she disappears from the Middleworld, it is said that he goes after her to bring her back. This is a myth about loyalty, the ties that bind brother and sister and the need to accept change to pursue one´s own individuality.

Wonderful read. Thanks aether. I see many, many parallels to other myths.
 Quoting: Seer777


yes, i like the familiarity thorough your dream because i avoid many emotions that way tounge
 Quoting: aether


‘For you, sister, I came. If it is the Rule of this Great Place that all come naked, carrying no weapons at all, I bow to its designs. So be it the Highest Will in me as well.’

So naked as a new-born Enki set foot upon the shore of the Netherworld. As soon as his feet touched the coarse, dark sand, Enki was overcome by a powerful feeling of disorientation, as if every aspect and fragment of his being was being reversed, reviewed and scrutinized. He felt very vulnerable, with everything he had assumed to be valuable inverted, challenged, turned upside down and inside out. The feeling was totally overwhelming: thresholds for a much deeper awareness were being open to him. Enki braced himself, just hoping he would be able to withstand the mounting pressure from the inner.

'Don’t fight the feeling,’ Enki heard a deep voice sounding strangely soothing in the darkness. ‘You will adapt to the Underworld vision in time. Remember, though, that if your soul is pure, then your contacts here will be harmonious and will make you whole. But if you come with fear, anger and all that is negative or unbalanced, you will have then to confront the shadows left within your heart, mind and soul before you find regeneration and healing ’.

A few more minutes or an eternity later perhaps, Enki could raise his head without feeling it spin. He let his eyes absorb the new environs. Below his feet, the dark coarse sand glittered here and there. Above, the sky had the mystery of twilight. Enki could not see the source of such subdued brightness. There were no stars, sun or moon in the Worlds Below. Instead, the light seemed to come from within the land itself. Ahead, he could see the outline of a huge lapis lazuli building, a palace or temple under construction. As for beings, strange ghost-like forms could be seen everywhere in all sizes and shapes, fleshless, but mobile and, if he could use the term, seemingly alive. Enki finally turned in the direction of the Voice. A silent figure cloaked and hooded in a shimmering black robe stood in front of him. The figure’s visage was hidden. Tall, slim and very imposing, the Form rendered Enki speechless. Never before had he seen such aura of authority and seriousness

[link to www.gatewaystobabylon.com]


Good morning all.

Had an interesting dream last night I thought I would share. Although, it was more of a quick blip than a dream...


I was shown an image of an anchor. A heavy one, as it was partially embedded in the ground due the weight...

I then a heard a voice say to me, Be still and know that I am God.

Then I woke.

cool2
 Quoting: Seer777


Reminds of this one a bit.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Seer777


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Sounds really similar, but was from the Legend of the Seeker show. I rewatched the first few episodes and is crazy what you miss the first time watching it as it is full to the brim of symbolism.

Here is one, lol

[link to img3.wikia.nocookie.net]

In the show the boundary was brought down eventually in the southern gates, I think.

Also, the pistis sophia or one of the books had a similar story where she followed light now that I think about it. But fuzzy on the whole story.
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Seer, finally read some of that slenderman thread and when I did the power went outblink
But strange thing too, was boundary like veils/gateways have been prominent lately coming up in legends and fiction.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


veils came up today as in the electromagnetic society is the society that pierces the veil because we see beyond sight (light)

Light is radiant energy, usually referring to electromagnetic radiation that is visible to the human eye, and is responsible for the sense of sight......
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and if we superimpose the notion of conscious onto the notion of veil in that context do we see light
 Quoting: aether


The way it was coming up was like the veil boundary was a type of underworld and the way to navigate through it was with a wisp of light or would one would be pulled under by the voices of the underworld.

Then the other was like a gateway/door between worlds was I think where two streams meet at the head and the only way to cross was with someone from the other world. I wonder if that could be where two rivers meet as well.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


yes there is synergy (similarity)

nice
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Seer, finally read some of that slenderman thread and when I did the power went outblink
But strange thing too, was boundary like veils/gateways have been prominent lately coming up in legends and fiction.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


veils came up today as in the electromagnetic society is the society that pierces the veil because we see beyond sight (light)

Light is radiant energy, usually referring to electromagnetic radiation that is visible to the human eye, and is responsible for the sense of sight......
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and if we superimpose the notion of conscious onto the notion of veil in that context do we see light
 Quoting: aether


The way it was coming up was like the veil boundary was a type of underworld and the way to navigate through it was with a wisp of light or would one would be pulled under by the voices of the underworld.

Then the other was like a gateway/door between worlds was I think where two streams meet at the head and the only way to cross was with someone from the other world. I wonder if that could be where two rivers meet as well.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


Is that one with Enki and his sister in the Underworld? I was thinking about that one yesterday.

...


Enki and Ereshkigal as twins share close ties, and when she disappears from the Middleworld, it is said that he goes after her to bring her back. This is a myth about loyalty, the ties that bind brother and sister and the need to accept change to pursue one´s own individuality.

Wonderful read. Thanks aether. I see many, many parallels to other myths.
 Quoting: Seer777


yes, i like the familiarity thorough your dream because i avoid many emotions that way tounge
 Quoting: aether


‘For you, sister, I came. If it is the Rule of this Great Place that all come naked, carrying no weapons at all, I bow to its designs. So be it the Highest Will in me as well.’

So naked as a new-born Enki set foot upon the shore of the Netherworld. As soon as his feet touched the coarse, dark sand, Enki was overcome by a powerful feeling of disorientation, as if every aspect and fragment of his being was being reversed, reviewed and scrutinized. He felt very vulnerable, with everything he had assumed to be valuable inverted, challenged, turned upside down and inside out. The feeling was totally overwhelming: thresholds for a much deeper awareness were being open to him. Enki braced himself, just hoping he would be able to withstand the mounting pressure from the inner.

'Don’t fight the feeling,’ Enki heard a deep voice sounding strangely soothing in the darkness. ‘You will adapt to the Underworld vision in time. Remember, though, that if your soul is pure, then your contacts here will be harmonious and will make you whole. But if you come with fear, anger and all that is negative or unbalanced, you will have then to confront the shadows left within your heart, mind and soul before you find regeneration and healing ’.

A few more minutes or an eternity later perhaps, Enki could raise his head without feeling it spin. He let his eyes absorb the new environs. Below his feet, the dark coarse sand glittered here and there. Above, the sky had the mystery of twilight. Enki could not see the source of such subdued brightness. There were no stars, sun or moon in the Worlds Below. Instead, the light seemed to come from within the land itself. Ahead, he could see the outline of a huge lapis lazuli building, a palace or temple under construction. As for beings, strange ghost-like forms could be seen everywhere in all sizes and shapes, fleshless, but mobile and, if he could use the term, seemingly alive. Enki finally turned in the direction of the Voice. A silent figure cloaked and hooded in a shimmering black robe stood in front of him. The figure’s visage was hidden. Tall, slim and very imposing, the Form rendered Enki speechless. Never before had he seen such aura of authority and seriousness

[link to www.gatewaystobabylon.com]


Good morning all.

Had an interesting dream last night I thought I would share. Although, it was more of a quick blip than a dream...


I was shown an image of an anchor. A heavy one, as it was partially embedded in the ground due the weight...

I then a heard a voice say to me, Be still and know that I am God.

Then I woke.

cool2
 Quoting: Seer777


Reminds of this one a bit.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Seer777


yes, they both came up emotionally together, as they do today, in their own way
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Sounds really similar, but was from the Legend of the Seeker show. I rewatched the first few episodes and is crazy what you miss the first time watching it as it is full to the brim of symbolism.

Here is one, lol

[link to img3.wikia.nocookie.net]

In the show the boundary was brought down eventually in the southern gates, I think.

Also, the pistis sophia or one of the books had a similar story where she followed light now that I think about it. But fuzzy on the whole story.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


I haven't heard of it. Is it good?

That book cover /z\ is this \z/.

Gates indeed.
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'Don’t fight the feeling,’ Enki heard a deep voice sounding strangely soothing in the darkness. ‘You will adapt to the Underworld vision in time. Remember, though, that if your soul is pure, then your contacts here will be harmonious and will make you whole. But if you come with fear, anger and all that is negative or unbalanced, you will have then to confront the shadows left within your heart, mind and soul before you find regeneration and healing ’.

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This is a really good quote, lol
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Sounds really similar, but was from the Legend of the Seeker show. I rewatched the first few episodes and is crazy what you miss the first time watching it as it is full to the brim of symbolism.

Here is one, lol

[link to img3.wikia.nocookie.net]

In the show the boundary was brought down eventually in the southern gates, I think.

Also, the pistis sophia or one of the books had a similar story where she followed light now that I think about it. But fuzzy on the whole story.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


I haven't heard of it. Is it good?

That book cover /z\ is this \z/.

Gates indeed.
:johndeewheel1:
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Yes, at least that is what I was thinking when I saw it.

Oh, yeah, I really enjoyed watching it and then rewatching was good too. I don't like to rewatch stuff hardly at all but that I did like and was just as good the first time watching.
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Yes, at least that is what I was thinking when I saw it.

Oh, yeah, I really enjoyed watching it and then rewatching was good too. I don't like to rewatch stuff hardly at all but that I did like and was just as good the first time watching.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


Looks entertaining. Thanks for the recommend.

I rewatch movies. Not TV shows so much. The Simpsons is often good for a replay

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Yes, at least that is what I was thinking when I saw it.

Oh, yeah, I really enjoyed watching it and then rewatching was good too. I don't like to rewatch stuff hardly at all but that I did like and was just as good the first time watching.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


Looks entertaining. Thanks for the recommend.

I rewatch movies. Not TV shows so much. The Simpsons is often good for a replay

:).
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Your welcome. I did rewatch Hocus Pocus so much that I had practically had the whole thing memorized when I was young.
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Yes, at least that is what I was thinking when I saw it.

Oh, yeah, I really enjoyed watching it and then rewatching was good too. I don't like to rewatch stuff hardly at all but that I did like and was just as good the first time watching.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


Looks entertaining. Thanks for the recommend.

I rewatch movies. Not TV shows so much. The Simpsons is often good for a replay

:).
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Your welcome. I did rewatch Hocus Pocus so much that I had practically had the whole thing memorized when I was young.
Have a good night
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Sleep well. I'm pretty tired too.

I like Sundays.

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deja vu tounge

Fasting for as little as three days can regenerate the entire immune system, even in the elderly, scientists have found in a breakthrough described as "remarkable".

Although fasting diets have been criticised by nutritionists for being unhealthy, new research suggests starving the body kick-starts stem cells into producing new white blood cells, which fight off infection.

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Thread: Fasting for three days can regenerate entire immune system, study finds

impressive
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Thread: I'm fat and ugly. (Page 2)
Basically not eating is the best way to lose weight.
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People rarely want the truth. Just placated.


The truth being, put much less in your mouth and you will lose weight. Try fasting OP, to 'reset' your appetite. Win the battle between hunger and craving. It does pass. And fasting will shrink your stomach and you will become fuller faster and less food.

Good luck.

arewhatueat
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I love that pic. It's soooo cool.
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Sounds really similar, but was from the Legend of the Seeker show. I rewatched the first few episodes and is crazy what you miss the first time watching it as it is full to the brim of symbolism.

Here is one, lol

[link to img3.wikia.nocookie.net]

In the show the boundary was brought down eventually in the southern gates, I think.

Also, the pistis sophia or one of the books had a similar story where she followed light now that I think about it. But fuzzy on the whole story.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


I haven't heard of it. Is it good?

That book cover /z\ is this \z/.

Gates indeed.
:johndeewheel1:
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When you post such pictures...and I know :P but it feels fake...when in fact you post a powerful pic...only need to post it once...

Gates indeed...how many have you passed...it's a fucked up magical world...

I don't want my enery a part of this thread...maybe in the past but not now...but I tried not to post...

:455chuckleG2:

fuck your zzz's X thread

/
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Sounds really similar, but was from the Legend of the Seeker show. I rewatched the first few episodes and is crazy what you miss the first time watching it as it is full to the brim of symbolism.

Here is one, lol

[link to img3.wikia.nocookie.net]

In the show the boundary was brought down eventually in the southern gates, I think.

Also, the pistis sophia or one of the books had a similar story where she followed light now that I think about it. But fuzzy on the whole story.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


I haven't heard of it. Is it good?

That book cover /z\ is this \z/.

Gates indeed.
johndeewheel1
 Quoting: Seer777


When you post such pictures...and I know :P but it feels fake...when in fact you post a powerful pic...only need to post it once...

Gates indeed...how many have you passed...it's a fucked up magical world...

I don't want my enery a part of this thread...maybe in the past but not now...but I tried not to post...

:455chuckleG2:

fuck your zzz's X thread

/
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Should I have tried to describe it in words instead? Did you click Fancy's link? They are one and the same.

How many? Truly...


Do whatcha gotta do Angels.

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Seer, finally read some of that slenderman thread and when I did the power went outblink
But strange thing too, was boundary like veils/gateways have been prominent lately coming up in legends and fiction.
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Scary
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I lost hardcore on the horses

Oh well

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I wasnt even home when the race went down i think #11 won
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Just read angelseverywherz reply is she going through menopause again the hot flashes?

She sounds cranky
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Just read angelseverywherz reply is she going through menopause again the hot flashes?

She sounds cranky
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Yo I'm not 50

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Just read angelseverywherz reply is she going through menopause again the hot flashes?

She sounds cranky
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Yo I'm not 50

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I heard you look it
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Seer, finally read some of that slenderman thread and when I did the power went outblink
But strange thing too, was boundary like veils/gateways have been prominent lately coming up in legends and fiction.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


veils came up today as in the electromagnetic society is the society that pierces the veil because we see beyond sight (light)

Light is radiant energy, usually referring to electromagnetic radiation that is visible to the human eye, and is responsible for the sense of sight......
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and if we superimpose the notion of conscious onto the notion of veil in that context do we see light
 Quoting: aether


The only way to see through/past in real time is to up the charge you carry.
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Fasting for as little as three days can regenerate the entire immune system, even in the elderly, scientists have found in a breakthrough described as "remarkable".

Although fasting diets have been criticised by nutritionists for being unhealthy, new research suggests starving the body kick-starts stem cells into producing new white blood cells, which fight off infection.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: danes1

Thread: Fasting for three days can regenerate entire immune system, study finds

impressive
 Quoting: aether


1kilo of Himalayan pink salt in a hot tub, soak for about 30/45 minutes and it is the same as a three day fast, supposedly.





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