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I have spoken of it a few times.

Quite briefly.


 Quoting: Seer777


I have no idea what that could mean. It did remind me (because this happened when I was around the same age)of a reoccurring dream I had. Mine was a horrible dream. It was a cave like prison place, dark, with a man wearing red. He had a morningstar weapon and was hitting my legs with them. I would wake up kicking. Also had leg pains which the doctors thought was growing pains. The dream stopped after I moved.
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This only happened once.

But had such a profound effect on me, that I still carry it with me.

He was very gentle with me. As I mentioned. I was not afraid. It's what he said, and the name I believe I heard which confused me.
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That is a profound experience for a small child.
Hopefully you will understand it.
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yes , forming a comfortable reason to go backwards far enough to lose any sense of guilt in doing so is important to
this people know cos it has to be comfortable for others whom do not go to become believers in those whom do go
thus the reason for going must fit the emotions of others as in:
it matters not so much what is discovered by going, it is the motive for going that is as vital to all

funny that but it seems true in an emotional sense that has nothing to do with physical reality other than others emotions cause physical reality to be felt by one another thus emotions are vital
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

okay , so they are placing something older into something newer and they are doing it from the future of both
as in:
around 1000 ad our hebrew mystics created the kabbalh and they did so in the same manner we are doing what we do on this thread
they went backwards to what their ancestors wrote in about 500 bc and provided meanings and signs to support what was said around 500 bc with information that predated 3000 to 5000 bc
 Quoting: aether


so what do we think

Ein Sof

Ein Sof , or Ayn Sof, in Kabbalah, is understood as God prior to His self-manifestation in the production of any spiritual Realm, probably derived from Ibn Gabirol's term, "the Endless One" (she-en lo tiklah). Ein Sof may be translated as "no end", "unending", "there is no end", or infinite.

Ein Sof is the divine origin of all created existence, in contrast to the Ein (or Ayn), which is infinite no-thingness.
 Quoting: observation

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is it just opposites they are describing

or

Ayin and Yesh

Ayin (Hebrew: meaning "nothingness", related to Ain-"not") is an important concept in Kabbalah and Hasidic philosophy. It is contrasted with the term Yesh ("something/existence/being/is"). According to kabbalistic teachings, before the universe was created there was only Ayin, and the first manifest Sephirah (Divine emanation), Chochmah (Wisdom), "comes into being out of Ayin." In this context, the sephirah Keter, the Divine will, is the intermediary between the Divine Infinity (Ein Sof) and Chochmah. Because Keter is a supreme revelation of the Ohr Ein Sof (Infinite Light), transcending the manifest sephirot, it is sometimes excluded from them.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

are they describing something else cos that /z\ looks hopeful that we can and will utilize it into 21 st century discovery
 Quoting: aether


Fuck. I can't do this on the phone.
Perhaps Ein is the plasmasheath of the Saturnian system. They couldn't see through it, so it was just an unknowable, infinite swirling off light.
Ein Sof is the origination of divinity which IS the entire Saturnian system contained within Ein.
Sephirah is Saturn.
Sephirah Keter is Saturn's will, and includes the light discharges that occur at times from Saturn to the other sub-polar placed planets.
Chochman is the trust that Sephrah's Keter is divine.

Now, put it all in motion and see if these alternative definitions match the proposed Saturnian system's break up of planetary cohesive relationships caused by the sun.

Stupid Fucking way off doing this...on my phone.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Simplify it, in conjuction (form based relationship), the base frequency signature of the most predominant energy colours and effects the composition of all other energies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39812740


Found this article, thought it was an amazing piece of writing, well worth the read . . .

[link to oliverstjohn-thelema.blogspot.com]


One unique thing about the Hermetic practice is that we start at the top and then draw down the force, before working upwards again. In other traditions, it is more common to begin from the ground and work your way up. So it appears from our practical work that we begin with Kether the Crown, the first emanation of the Tree of Life. Kether more or less approximates with the Atman of Eastern philosophy. The Egyptian god Atem or Atem Ra embodies much the same principle. However, numbers begin from zero, not one. The idea of negative existence or Non-Being is as integral to the Hermetic tradition as it is to Eastern Advaita. In the Qabalah we have three veils of the negative light, the Ain, the Ain Soph and the Ain Soph Aur – No-thing, Limitless Space, and Limitless Light. Kether is the first appearance, and is really a concentration or mirror reflection of those three veils of the infinite. The name of Kether in Atziluth is AHIH, “I Am”, the pure existence, undifferentiated. If we say that name backwards, we declare “Maya” – that the ‘One’ is the root of the delusion of appearances. The Ain, Ain Soph and Ain Soph Aur reflected in Kether is Light in Extension, the LVX formulation of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. When this is reversed, we formulate NOX or Night, the threefold eye of Ain, Not-Self or Non-Being. The word Ain is closely related to the letter and word Ayin, the eye of the void.
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hey songwaves , nice to feel you posting again peace
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This is perfect.

Wonderful.


Notice @1:43.

'The crossings'

:FoggyBridge:



Also @3:30-3-40. /z\

Notice it somewhat appears to be moving down the throat?
 Quoting: Seer777


Like the falling eagle. Its like you eat it or digest it, lol

I wonder if that symbolizes the fall of sophia.
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But how do we know for sure its not the rise? I mean if there really is double gravity rise to fall and fall to rise concept?
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The falling eagle mind and the rising eagle heart?
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yep. on my phone during my lunch break.
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sad


....



eyebrow


....

Good afternoon everyone.

cheer
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so what do we think

Ein Sof

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

is it just opposites they are describing

or

Ayin and Yesh

...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

are they describing something else cos that /z\ looks hopeful that we can and will utilize it into 21 st century discovery
 Quoting: aether


Fuck. I can't do this on the phone.
Perhaps Ein is the plasmasheath of the Saturnian system. They couldn't see through it, so it was just an unknowable, infinite swirling off light.
Ein Sof is the origination of divinity which IS the entire Saturnian system contained within Ein.
Sephirah is Saturn.
Sephirah Keter is Saturn's will, and includes the light discharges that occur at times from Saturn to the other sub-polar placed planets.
Chochman is the trust that Sephrah's Keter is divine.

Now, put it all in motion and see if these alternative definitions match the proposed Saturnian system's break up of planetary cohesive relationships caused by the sun.

Stupid Fucking way off doing this...on my phone.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Simplify it, in conjuction (form based relationship), the base frequency signature of the most predominant energy colours and effects the composition of all other energies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39812740


Found this article, thought it was an amazing piece of writing, well worth the read . . .

[link to oliverstjohn-thelema.blogspot.com]


One unique thing about the Hermetic practice is that we start at the top and then draw down the force, before working upwards again. In other traditions, it is more common to begin from the ground and work your way up. So it appears from our practical work that we begin with Kether the Crown, the first emanation of the Tree of Life. Kether more or less approximates with the Atman of Eastern philosophy. The Egyptian god Atem or Atem Ra embodies much the same principle. However, numbers begin from zero, not one. The idea of negative existence or Non-Being is as integral to the Hermetic tradition as it is to Eastern Advaita. In the Qabalah we have three veils of the negative light, the Ain, the Ain Soph and the Ain Soph Aur – No-thing, Limitless Space, and Limitless Light. Kether is the first appearance, and is really a concentration or mirror reflection of those three veils of the infinite. The name of Kether in Atziluth is AHIH, “I Am”, the pure existence, undifferentiated. If we say that name backwards, we declare “Maya” – that the ‘One’ is the root of the delusion of appearances. The Ain, Ain Soph and Ain Soph Aur reflected in Kether is Light in Extension, the LVX formulation of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. When this is reversed, we formulate NOX or Night, the threefold eye of Ain, Not-Self or Non-Being. The word Ain is closely related to the letter and word Ayin, the eye of the void.
 Quoting: songwaves 44073295


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Nyx (Ancient Greek: Νύξ, "night") – Nox in Latin translation – is the Greek goddess (or personification) of the night. A shadowy figure, Nyx stood at or near the beginning of creation, and was the mother of other personified gods such as Hypnos (Sleep) and Thánatos (Death). Her appearances in mythology are sparse, but reveal her as a figure of exceptional power and beauty. She is found in the shadows of the world and only ever seen in glimpses.
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I had the tunnel vision, going down the spiral, and coming out into a pool of water. During it, the lightning and colored sparks were shooting off like sparklers for a long time.

This song is how it looked minus the shooting sparks flying off.


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I had the tunnel vision, going down the spiral, and coming out into a pool of water. During it, the lightning and colored sparks were shooting off like sparklers for a long time.

This song is how it looked minus the shooting sparks flying off.



 Quoting: GBRYAL


I just remember the sensation of being sucked...near navel first through my bed.

I believe it was blackness...as that is how it was when it happened again last year.

I was also dropped into water.

If you will...


Yikes.

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I had the tunnel vision, going down the spiral, and coming out into a pool of water. During it, the lightning and colored sparks were shooting off like sparklers for a long time.

This song is how it looked minus the shooting sparks flying off.



 Quoting: GBRYAL


I had a dream last night, but all I remember is seeing a soldier with this as an emblem on his shoulder

He was very big and muscular, more than a normal man could be

....

cropcircleH
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Are you sure? It displays perfectly fine for me on all of my computers.

Perhaps you have a scrip blocker enabled to block advertisements?
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Yea...im fuckin sure...its been a coupla years now...r u fuckin sure?
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I see. Thank you for clarifying the problem with why my info is not being received properly. You should word your responses better in the future, however. Aren't you tired of feeling useless? Be useful then. Problem solved. Ty.

I am sad to announce that since this site is actively blocking anonymous information release, i am striking this site from the X project.

All communion on this experiment in symagic should be directed to other forums with suitable soil for growth.

Thank you all for your contributions, and please continue to enjoy and add to the "wave" of love.

Peace.
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Oh man...im sorry...to you and everyone else here last night.

Truth, I turned to alcohol and I should not have. ..and I got mouthy. O am very sorry

Wf
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It's not you. I can stand the odd deleted post. What i will not tolerate is active censorship via the webmasters.

This is not the first website to lose our attentions, and i doubt it will be the last.

We can still talk here, just don't expect as many people to be discussing the X project. Any spills are to be corrected.
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yes , forming a comfortable reason to go backwards far enough to lose any sense of guilt in doing so is important to
this people know cos it has to be comfortable for others whom do not go to become believers in those whom do go
thus the reason for going must fit the emotions of others as in:
it matters not so much what is discovered by going, it is the motive for going that is as vital to all

funny that but it seems true in an emotional sense that has nothing to do with physical reality other than others emotions cause physical reality to be felt by one another thus emotions are vital
 Quoting: aether


A good point Aether, when you really think-feel-know this, you become much more careful to hold everyone in the greatest of kindness within your mind and heart. A difficult and ongoing battle for most of us, funny how we go down hardest fighting ourselves.
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I had the tunnel vision, going down the spiral, and coming out into a pool of water. During it, the lightning and colored sparks were shooting off like sparklers for a long time.

This song is how it looked minus the shooting sparks flying off.



 Quoting: GBRYAL


I had a dream last night, but all I remember is seeing a soldier with this as an emblem on his shoulder

He was very big and muscular, more than a normal man could be

....

cropcircleH
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


good afternoon , i had a dream last night which i still remember cos i like the impression it formed with my senses and when i woke up i was awake enough to get up and switch on the pc but i was not awake enough to see reality cos i saw something and pm`d whom i saw then noticed they were not what i saw so i pm`d my apology and went back to bed and straight to sleep rolleyes
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I had a dream like that a few years back. These soldiers were long haired giants(big like hulk Hogan types) and they had this on the sleeves.

:indypdofreligion:
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It's not you. I can stand the odd deleted post. What i will not tolerate is active censorship via the webmasters.

This is not the first website to lose our attentions, and i doubt it will be the last.

We can still talk here, just don't expect as many people to be discussing the X project. Any spills are to be corrected.
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0 mentions this as well...


I haven't noticed. Except the occasion 'abusive post'.

Which your words are not subject to.

So I am confused.

I have heard of 'scrubbing' in the past. But have only witnessed it, on other threads.
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yes , forming a comfortable reason to go backwards far enough to lose any sense of guilt in doing so is important to
this people know cos it has to be comfortable for others whom do not go to become believers in those whom do go
thus the reason for going must fit the emotions of others as in:
it matters not so much what is discovered by going, it is the motive for going that is as vital to all

funny that but it seems true in an emotional sense that has nothing to do with physical reality other than others emotions cause physical reality to be felt by one another thus emotions are vital
 Quoting: aether


A good point Aether, when you really think-feel-know this, you become much more careful to hold everyone in the greatest of kindness within your mind and heart. A difficult and ongoing battle for most of us, funny how we go down hardest fighting ourselves.
 Quoting: songwaves 44073295


yes this is new thought to me that has arisen since our reorientation information began arriving and seems tied to my believing my empathy is broadening and i don`t mind it now i am becoming use to it but i believe i am lucky
cos i am becoming empathic with emotions i was not empathic with thus it is quite manageable cos i remember me not being so and i prefer the me now
but
if i had started empathic , which i believe some people do, that could be hellish it seems cos they can never resist others feelings cos they possess no memory of doing so
is the sensation

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hey songwaves , nice to feel you posting again peace
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Hey Aether thanks for the warm welcome, its most appreciated!

hf
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if i had started empathic , which i believe some people do, that could be hellish it seems cos they can never resist others feelings cos they possess no memory of doing so
is the sensation
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True.
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if i had started empathic , which i believe some people do, that could be hellish it seems cos they can never resist others feelings cos they possess no memory of doing so
is the sensation
 Quoting: aether



True.
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....

....

Agreed....

Can certainly be bothersome at times
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if i had started empathic , which i believe some people do, that could be hellish it seems cos they can never resist others feelings cos they possess no memory of doing so
is the sensation
 Quoting: aether



True.
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yes, and it becomes particularly hellish if an empathic likes someone whom likes the thought of effecting an empathic in a manner that is unpleasant for the empathic
i got strong visuals of that right now
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if i had started empathic , which i believe some people do, that could be hellish it seems cos they can never resist others feelings cos they possess no memory of doing so
is the sensation
 Quoting: aether



True.
 Quoting: acuk


yes, and it becomes particularly hellish if an empathic likes someone whom likes the thought of effecting an empathic in a manner that is unpleasant for the empathic
i got strong visuals of that right now
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I bet you did, I was thinking about the effects and how hard at times things have been, as I bet many who read this thread were as they read your words, yet like child birth, time hides the pain :)
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if i had started empathic , which i believe some people do, that could be hellish it seems cos they can never resist others feelings cos they possess no memory of doing so
is the sensation
 Quoting: aether



True.
 Quoting: acuk


yes, and it becomes particularly hellish if an empathic likes someone whom likes the thought of effecting an empathic in a manner that is unpleasant for the empathic
i got strong visuals of that right now
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I bet you did, I was thinking about the effects and how hard at times things have been, as I bet many who read this thread were as they read your words, yet like child birth, time hides the pain :)
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and happiness forgets ltana
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yes , forming a comfortable reason to go backwards far enough to lose any sense of guilt in doing so is important to
this people know cos it has to be comfortable for others whom do not go to become believers in those whom do go
thus the reason for going must fit the emotions of others as in:
it matters not so much what is discovered by going, it is the motive for going that is as vital to all

funny that but it seems true in an emotional sense that has nothing to do with physical reality other than others emotions cause physical reality to be felt by one another thus emotions are vital
 Quoting: aether


A good point Aether, when you really think-feel-know this, you become much more careful to hold everyone in the greatest of kindness within your mind and heart. A difficult and ongoing battle for most of us, funny how we go down hardest fighting ourselves.
 Quoting: songwaves 44073295


yes this is new thought to me that has arisen since our reorientation information began arriving and seems tied to my believing my empathy is broadening and i don`t mind it now i am becoming use to it but i believe i am lucky
cos i am becoming empathic with emotions i was not empathic with thus it is quite manageable cos i remember me not being so and i prefer the me now
but
if i had started empathic , which i believe some people do, that could be hellish it seems cos they can never resist others feelings cos they possess no memory of doing so
is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


Emotional gestalts can become incredibly overwhelming as an empath, it is a natural process to 'reasonate' rather than delineating the need for a succinct distinctive separation.

Drowning fish comes to mind lol
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True.
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yes, and it becomes particularly hellish if an empathic likes someone whom likes the thought of effecting an empathic in a manner that is unpleasant for the empathic
i got strong visuals of that right now
 Quoting: aether


I bet you did, I was thinking about the effects and how hard at times things have been, as I bet many who read this thread were as they read your words, yet like child birth, time hides the pain :)
 Quoting: acuk


and happiness forgets ltana
 Quoting: aether


and makes the best coattails tounge

[link to www.happinessforgets.com]
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yes , forming a comfortable reason to go backwards far enough to lose any sense of guilt in doing so is important to
this people know cos it has to be comfortable for others whom do not go to become believers in those whom do go
thus the reason for going must fit the emotions of others as in:
it matters not so much what is discovered by going, it is the motive for going that is as vital to all

funny that but it seems true in an emotional sense that has nothing to do with physical reality other than others emotions cause physical reality to be felt by one another thus emotions are vital
 Quoting: aether


A good point Aether, when you really think-feel-know this, you become much more careful to hold everyone in the greatest of kindness within your mind and heart. A difficult and ongoing battle for most of us, funny how we go down hardest fighting ourselves.
 Quoting: songwaves 44073295


yes this is new thought to me that has arisen since our reorientation information began arriving and seems tied to my believing my empathy is broadening and i don`t mind it now i am becoming use to it but i believe i am lucky
cos i am becoming empathic with emotions i was not empathic with thus it is quite manageable cos i remember me not being so and i prefer the me now
but
if i had started empathic , which i believe some people do, that could be hellish it seems cos they can never resist others feelings cos they possess no memory of doing so
is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


Emotional gestalts can become incredibly overwhelming as an empath, it is a natural process to 'reasonate' rather than delineating the need for a succinct distinctive separation.

Drowning fish comes to mind lol
 Quoting: songwaves 44073295


the good news is within our new to us universe empaths are natures greatest gifts to all and there is no mystery why this is so
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if i had started empathic , which i believe some people do, that could be hellish it seems cos they can never resist others feelings cos they possess no memory of doing so
is the sensation
 Quoting: aether



True.
 Quoting: acuk


....

....

Agreed....

Can certainly be bothersome at times
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Sometimes it can make me do this.


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yes, and it becomes particularly hellish if an empathic likes someone whom likes the thought of effecting an empathic in a manner that is unpleasant for the empathic
i got strong visuals of that right now
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I bet you did, I was thinking about the effects and how hard at times things have been, as I bet many who read this thread were as they read your words, yet like child birth, time hides the pain :)
 Quoting: acuk


and happiness forgets ltana
 Quoting: aether


and makes the best coattails tounge

[link to www.happinessforgets.com]
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Lovely saying.
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Have you guys seen this.


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Empathy

Empathy is the capacity to recognize emotions that are being experienced by another sentient or fictional being. One may need to have a certain amount of empathy before being able to experience accurate sympathy or compassion. The English word was coined in 1909 by the psychologist Edward B. Titchener in an attempt to translate the German word "Einfühlungsvermögen", a new phenomenon explored at the end of 19th century mainly by philosopher Theodor Lipps. It was later re-translated into the German language as "Empathie", and is still in use there.
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it is still a "new" topic for humanity expressed in this manner cos by default it says information is experienced over distance from outside of the receiver of the information and if that is true distant feeling (telepathy) must be true to

strange but true most resistance to these topics within all societies came from our military and faiths for the same reason
if proven to be true it would be lawful to know that which is meant to never be known in the interest of security of national interest

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Have you guys seen this.


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we can do that /z\ and we listen to our political leaders tell us the same thing our ancestors were told for ever

how does that work tounge





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