X Marks the Spot

yes my time experience is being effected by my noticing alterations in myself when i am meeting things from my past as i am because the similar circumstances arise with my past in my present and i notice because i am now noticeable not the same as i was when i last met my past in my then present, nothing is occurring as it did before so it experiences like deja vu of different effect caused by me

Me too. I didn't realize it till just now reading your post. I learned a great lesson not to assume or accuse/blame. Very valuable lesson I hold dear. This time though it was the other way around and I felt what it feels like to be accused.
Interesting

Some have suggested ancient technology glassified these Indus Valley ruins but electricity is a more plausible explanation.

Mesopotamia and the Fertile Crescent region are thought to be the “birthplace” of civilization and the central focus for human culture dating back to the beginning of recorded history. No one knows for sure just how old the generalized composite that we call “society” really is – both because of archeological deficiencies and because of radiometric disconformity – but one of the oldest sites is located in the Indus Valley of Pakistan and appears to date from around 3000-2500 BCE.

There are many ways to date ancient artifacts and there are just as many ways to interpret the results from those techniques. It is not the purpose of this paper to address the difficulties inherent with using carbon 14, tree-rings, stratigraphic distribution, or any other methodology when attempting to place artifacts or habitations within a chronological sequence. Other articles have addressed those issues, as well as previous Picture of the Day discussions about radioactive decay rates and how external, ionizing sources can change isotope ratios.

There is one intriguing aspect to Mohenjo-Daro that sets it apart from most ancient ruins. It is the one anomaly among several at the site that has caused some researchers to suggest that there might have been forces unleashed in the past that are comparable to modern weapons. Walls, pottery and other items found in the city have been turned into a kind of ceramic glass, indicating that they were exposed to thermal energy equivalent to 1500 Celsius. Evidence of ionizing radiation has also been found in some burial sites.

The oldest myths of the Hindu religion, itself one of the oldest religions in the world, speak of gods flying in vehicles composed of dazzling light and intricately carved platforms called vimanas, that waged war with one another using energy beams of incredible power. In the Hindu religious text known as the Mahabharata, there is a description of one such vehicle:

“Gurkha flying in his swift and powerful Vimana hurled against the three cities of the Vrishis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and fire, as brilliant as ten thousands suns, rose in all its splendor. It was the unknown weapon, the Iron Thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and Andhakas.”.................

I have noticed the same you both speak of

For me, I take it as noticing a loop going into a spiral. So if I didn't notice and work through whatever it was I would just be going round and round until I did notice.

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Orpheus (/ˈɔrfiːəs/ or /ˈɔrfjuːs/; Ancient Greek: Ὀρφεύς) was a legendary musician, poet, and prophet in ancient Greek religion and myth. The major stories about him are centered on his ability to charm all living things and even stones with his music, his attempt to retrieve his wife, Eurydice, from the underworld, and his death at the hands of those who could not hear his divine music.

The most famous story in which Orpheus figures is that of his wife Eurydice (sometimes referred to as Euridice and also known as Agriope). While walking among her people, the Cicones, in tall grass at her wedding, Eurydice was set upon by a satyr. In her efforts to escape the satyr, Eurydice fell into a nest of vipers and suffered a fatal bite on her heel. Her body was discovered by Orpheus who, overcome with grief, played such sad and mournful songs that all the nymphs and gods wept. On their advice, Orpheus travelled to the underworld and by his music softened the hearts of Hades and Persephone (he was the only person ever to do so), who agreed to allow Eurydice to return with him to earth on one condition: he should walk in front of her and not look back until they both had reached the upper world. He set off with Eurydice following, and, in his anxiety, as soon as he reached the upper world, he turned to look at her, forgetting that both needed to be in the upper world, and she vanished for the second time, but now forever.

to me i am prompted to discover i experience a new to me singular effect experience
that is as far as i have got in my experience

i am not impressed with orpheus in this storyline

Yeah, pretty horrible. I wonder though what it is telling. It seems to me this keeps popping up in different ways over the past month.

Yeah, pretty horrible. I wonder though what it is telling. It seems to me this keeps popping up in different ways over the past month.

A classical lyre has a hollow body or sound-chest (also known as soundbox or resonator), which, in ancient Greek tradition, was made out of turtle shell.[9] Extending from this sound-chest are two raised arms, which are sometimes hollow, and are curved both outward and forward. They are connected near the top by a crossbar or yoke. An additional crossbar, fixed to the sound-chest, makes the bridge which transmits the vibrations of the strings. The deepest note was that farthest from the player's body; as the strings did not differ much in length, more weight may have been gained for the deeper notes by thicker strings, as in the violin and similar modern instruments, or they were tuned by having a slacker tension. The strings were of gut. They were stretched between the yoke and bridge, or to a tailpiece below the bridge. There were two ways of tuning: one was to fasten the strings to pegs which might be turned; the other was to change the place of the string upon the crossbar; probably both expedients were used simultaneously.
The Hagia Triada Mycenaean sarcophagus, 14th century BCE, depicting the earliest lyre with seven strings, held by a man with long robe, third from the left.

According to ancient Greek mythology, the young god Hermes stole a herd of sacred cows from Apollo. In order not to be followed, he made shoes for the cows which forced them to walk backwards. Apollo, following the trails, could not follow where the cows were going. Along the way, Hermes slaughtered one of the cows and offered all but the entrails to the gods. From the entrails he created the Lyre. Apollo, figuring out it was Hermes who had his cows, confronted the young god. Apollo was furious, but after hearing the sound of the lyre, his anger faded. Apollo offered to trade the herd of cattle for the lyre. Hence, the creation of the lyre is attributed to Hermes. Other sources credit it to Apollo himself.

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Interesting they were classically made with turtle shells.

is this a story about two cultures of which one culture did not utilize tones of a scientific instrument to communicate to others and the scientific instrument culture never noticed they did not
and
the scientific instrument culture was unable to get what they want because understanding was understandable to them in experience with their scientific instruments effects upon them being believed
oh
orpheous believed what his scientific instrument and him believed and that was not true to the other culture whom saw what orpheous and his scientific instruments believed and they added their own belief to it unseen by the believers whom`s belief was seen by others

well to me orpheus did never see how things go thus he never saw what never to do and that is unimaginable to me in the circumstances orpheus is said to be

because without knowing the general cause
the "contactee" is forced to apply their current belief to be the cause
of the contact experience

This sounds a lot like the story of the fallen golden age having its technologies divided into spiritual and scientific?

Morning Aether.

This sounds a lot like the story of the fallen golden age having its technologies divided into spiritual and scientific?

Morning Aether.

I just read a post of yours this morning and remembered it when reading this post.

The fall of the golden age seemed to be the 'divorce' of god.

yes, it arises fully in the singular effect experience when something other than all that is not you becomes to you similar enough for them to become , to you , the other one you believe to be true that is not you
3 things you believe in that moment
all that is not you
the one whom is not you within all that is not you
yourself that is none of the above in the moment you know it

yes, it arises fully in the singular effect experience when something other than all that is not you becomes to you similar enough for them to become , to you , the other one you believe to be true that is not you
3 things you believe in that moment
all that is not you
the one whom is not you within all that is not you
yourself that is none of the above in the moment you know it

Are you trying to say that you are only free to be what you are once you have become what you are not? Would add a lot to the whole Nobody idea.

well i am often becoming what i am not
then i am what i was not and it makes sense to me

Oh, are you guys talking about memories? I read another quote that I don't have on hand, but aether said

"no memory = not thought formed"
or something like that. It stood out to me because I've been noticing people with erased memories lately.

Oh, are you guys talking about memories? I read another quote that I don't have on hand, but aether said

"no memory = not thought formed"
or something like that. It stood out to me because I've been noticing people with erased memories lately.