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WHY TU B'AV (AUGUST 3, 2012) MAY BE THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH!!!

 
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The post below appeared on www.bad goose on July 23rd. The author has her own website, linked below, and is also a firm believer, as so many of us watchers are, of the 2008--2015 timeline for the Final 7 Years. We believe that this timeline will still be fullfilled by "the shortening of the days", so that Jesus will still Return to earth in the Fall of 2015. This means that the Rapture and Sudden Dstruction (nuclear World War 3?) must take place very, very soon. Renee M. believes the Lord has shown to her that the time of the Rapture/SD will be on the Jewish festival of Tu B'Av, August 3, 2012!!! Many Bible Prophecy watchers agree that this could very well be the time!!!

Now is the time to BE READY, by preparing yourself spiritually to be part of the Bride of Christ. A wise, expectant, and anxious Bride ALWAYS makes herself READY. Will you be part of the selected Bride, or part of the Sudden Destruction?

Maranatha!

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[link to www.jesusiscoming2015.webs.com]

Why I believe Tu B'Av (August 3, 2012) will be the Rapture of the Church:


It all started 11 1/2 years ago. On January 3, 2001, actually it was already the 4th, at just after midnight, the Spirit of God spoke very clearly to me and said these exact words: "You will be as John the Baptist and will write something that will save millions of people from the deception that is about to take place." Sometime between then and January 6th, the Lord told me to wait for Him to come, on the night of January 6, 2001. I wrote to many people telling them that the Rapture would take place on January 6/7, 2001, because that was what I thought the Lord was telling me. I sat on my couch that night, just talking and listening to the Lord. We were having a wonderful time together and His presence was very strong. At midnight, I began to feel a little sleepy and asked Him how much longer until He came. He said to wait just a little longer. At around 12:10 a.m., my body began to shake violently, for I would guess to be about a minute. Then it stopped, just as suddenly as it started. The presence of God was all over me. I asked the Lord what had just happened and His reply was, "Just wait." About a minute or so later, it happened AGAIN. The violent shaking started again for maybe a minute or so, with God's presence all over me. But this time, it was a little different, because on the second shaking, my mouth began to tingle, like the feeling when your foot falls asleep. I asked the Lord why my mouth was tingling like that, and He said this, "This represents Isaiah, when He saw me and the coal touched His lips and his sin was atoned for." Once again, it stopped suddenly after about a minute or so. I asked the Lord, "What were those 2 shakings?" I thought maybe something had happened right at those 2 moments in the world. I really did not understand it at all. The only reply from the Lord was, "Go and study the Feasts."

That was it. No more revelation or understanding in 11 1/2 years. For over 11 years, I have been trying to understand the meaning of it all, and have been carrying a burden because I know the Lord expects me to write something that will help save millions of people from a coming deception, and that it has to do with those 2 shakings. Finally, after 11 1/2 years, I now believe that the Lord has given me the revelation of what it all means. And it all points to the 15th of Av - Tu B'Av, Aug. 3, 2012, as the Firstfruits Rapture of the Church!
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January 6, 2001, at midnight, was exactly 6 days after the New Year's Celebration. Although the world celebrated the New Millennium the year before, it actually should have been celebrated on January 1, 2001. That was the actual day that ushered in the "New Millennium" on our calendar. The fireworks went off at midnight, just like the fireworks will go off at midnight at the opening of the Olympics ceremony next week. The Lord has been pointing me to this day as it starts the 9th of Av, right as the fireworks are going off. After writing to some people about the Opening Ceremony, I turned on the TV and within 10 minutes, separately saw these two phrases:

1. When the Games begin
2. Let the games begin

There could be something huge that takes place at that time, or within a day or two, since the 9th and 10th of Av are the saddest days in Jewish history. But, it was 6 days after the fireworks went off at midnight, on January 1, 2001, that I had those 2 shakings, again right after midnight. Six days after the 9th of Av is the 15th of Av, which happens to be a Jewish festival day, called Tu B'Av. I will try to explain later how Tu B'Av is a perfect representation of the resurrection of the dead and Rapture of the Church. For now, I will just say that Tu B'Av is a minor feast day and I had only studied the major feasts in Israel. I only learned about this feast yesterday! I believe the reason Tu B'Av is a minor feast for the jewish people is because Tu B'Av is for the CHURCH, not so much for the jewish people!

OK, back to the 2 shakings. Why did the first shaking not have the "atonement" part with it, and the second one did? I believe the 2 shakings represent the 2 Raptures, the first one will be on Tu B'Av, 2012 (August 3) and the second one will take place after the Tribulation period on the Day of Atonement. This is why there were 2 separate shakings. The Lord was pointing me to the 2 Raptures. The second one definitely points to the Day of Atonement, because the Lord said it represented "when Isaiah's sin was atoned for". The first one points to Tu B'Av, because it is 6 days after the fireworks started at midnight.

Here is one article, of many, showing how the 2 feasts of Tu B'Av and the Day of Atonement are related:

The Talmud teaches us that you have not experienced joy until you have experienced the two happiest days of the year: Tu B'Av and Yom Kippur. For those who do not know about Tu B'Av, it is a festive day known in Modern Israel as a Yom Ahavah (Day of Love). It is practically a Jewish Valentine's Day!
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Rabbi Simeon ben Gamliel said there never were in Israel greater days of joy than the 15th of Av and the Day of Atonement. On these days the daughters of Jerusalem used to walk out in white garments that they borrowed, in order not to put to shame anyone who had none. For most of us, that have been trained in the somberness of Jewish holidays, especially Yom Kippur, this description seems odd. It seems so incongruous to imagine these days of dancing and joy associated with Yom Kippur. There is a deep similarity between Yom Kippur and Tu B'Av. Whereas Tisha B'Av is the day when [tradition says] God declared that the jewish people would wander 40 years in the desert (until the generation that knew slavery died out), Tu B'Av is the day when, 40 years later, the remaining 15,000 Israelites of the desert generation were told they would be able to enter the Promised Land.
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OK, back to the part of the Lord telling me I would be as John the Baptist. This has also been a mystery I have been trying to figure out. I am nothing like John the Baptist. What did the Lord mean by that? I think I finally understand that as well. John the Baptist said this, "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire." I believe that John is prophesying here, and explaining the beginning of the Church age and the end of the Church age. It all began on Pentecost, when they were baptized with the Holy Spirit and fire. It all ends on Tu B'Av, at the END of the wheat harvest and beginning of the grape harvest, when He gathers His wheat into the barn and burns the chaff. This is the harvest time, at the end of the wheat season. The festivals point to the beginning and ending of the harvest seasons:
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Firstfruits Feast - firstfruits of barley (Jesus fulfilled)
Pentecost - end of barley season/ firstfruits of wheat (fulfilled on Pentecost, when Church Age started)
Tu B'Av - end of wheat season/firstfruit of grapes (to be fulfilled at first Rapture of the Church)
Day of Atonement - end of grape season (final Rapture of Tribulation Saints)
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Revelation 14 says this:
Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000, who had his name, and his Father’s name, written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song, except the 144,000, who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.

I call these people the "purehearts". They are redeemed from the earth at the time of the Rapture. Their hearts are pure and they are blameless. The PURE in heart shall see God. They are offered as FIRSTFRUITS. The firstfruits of grapes, or the New Wine, or the New Covenant. It's at the time of the wheat harvest, the end of the wheat season and beginning of the grape season.

And it's 4 months after Passover. Jesus said, "Do you not say FOUR MORE MONTHS until the Harvest?" Four months from when? From Passover when He gave His disciples the bread (wheat) and wine (grapes), showing the 2 are connected. It's the end of the wheat and beginning of the grapes. Four months from Passover is Tu B'Av.

Boaz and Ruth's wedding is another example of the Rapture/ wedding of the Bride. Boaz represents Jesus, as the Kinsman Redeemer, and Ruth represents the Church. Ruth 2:14, "And at mealtime Boaz said to her, “Come here and eat some bread and dip your morsel in the wine.” Here we have Boaz (representing Jesus) giving bread and wine to Ruth (the Church). So, when did their wedding take place? Ruth 2:23, "So she kept fast by the maidens of Boaz to glean unto the end of barley harvest and of wheat harvest; and dwelt with her mother in law." Ruth stayed with her mother-in-law until the end of the wheat harvest, and then left her mother-in-law to live with her new husband Boaz.

One other clue that the Bible gives us is when Paul, in 1st Thessalonians, and John, in Revelation, refer to the Rapture as a "mystery". The jewish people refer to Tu B'Av as the most mysterious day of the Jewish calendar.

Another clue from Scripture is this:

Psalm 81:3
Blow the trumpet at the time of the New Moon, At the full Moon, on our solemn feast day.


The Jewish people were commanded to blow trumpets on their feast days that fell on a New Moon or Full Moon. The 15th of Av is on a full moon and this is the LAST TRUMPET of the year before the New Year begins for the jewish people, in September, on Rosh Hashanah. Again, Paul mentions the key words, "MYSTERY" and "LAST TRUMPET" in 1 Thessalonians. Either Paul, or God, seems to be pointing us to Tu B'Av, by putting these key words in the verses that talk about the resurrection of the dead, and rapture of the Church.


Yet ANOTHER clue from Scripture is when Jesus tells us that people will be eating and drinking, marrying and being given in marriage. There is no day more festive for the Jewish people, then that of the Tu B'Av festival. It is known as the "Day of Love", and similar to Valentine's Day for us. It is the most common day for the Jewish people to have their wedding on! And it's the day when the Jewish virgins go out in the fields to dance, wearing WHITE GARMENTS, and DANCE, and the young men would come looking for a Bride. Does this not sound like the Rapture?!?!?


And then we have the resurrection of the dead! The jewish people while wandering in the desert were, according to the Midrash, commanded by Moses to sleep in their graves as punishment, for not believing the spies, who were sent to scout out the promised land. The jewish people, who slept in their graves each year, would arise from their graves, and discover that 15,000 of the older generation had died in the night. This continued to happen until all of the older generation had died off. Tu B'Av was celebrated because they knew, at long last, they were freed from the curse of the grave and free to enter the promised land, under the leadership of Joshua. We all know that the name of Jesus is derived from Joshua. I suspect we all are aware that there is a parallel between the promised land and Heaven, the land flowing with milk and honey. Tu B'Av commemorates when all the chosen people rose from their graves alive!


Someone else, on the 5 Doves website, pointed out that the tribe of Benjamin was allowed to snatch brides on Tu B'Av, and that the word snatched in the Septuagint is harpazo (caught up, Rapture)!


We again see in Micah 7, a hint from Scripture, as to the timing of the Rapture:


What misery is mine! I am like one who gathers summer fruit at the gleaning of the vineyard; there is no cluster of grapes to eat, none of the early figs that I crave.2 The faithful have been swept from the land; not one upright person remains. And then in verse 4, Micah says, "The day God visits you has come, the day your watchmen sound the alarm. Now is the time of your confusion." In the fruit harvest, the grapes are first to ripen, so the first ripe of the grapes is the time the "good man" disappears from the earth. Micah is as the time of the Summer fruits, of the GRAPE HARVESTING of the vineyard, which is the FIRST RIPE GRAPES. The FIRST RIPE GRAPES is the time of the rapture!!!
Here are 2 very interesting articles I found on the internet that point to Tu B'Av as the most symbolic of festivals, for the resurrection of the dead and Rapture of the Church:



Matthew 24:38 “For as in the days that were before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark”

The 15th of Av is the most mysterious day of the Jewish calendar.
The Talmud tells us that many years ago, in ancient Israel, it was the custom, that on the 15th of Av "the daughters of Jerusalem would go out in borrowed linen garments... and dance in the vineyards" and "whoever did not have a wife would go there", to find himself a bride. The reason they would wear borrowed linen garments was so those, without nice clothes of their own, would not be embarrassed.

The “full moon”, of the tragic month of Av, is the festival of the Future Redemption.
The 15th of Av this year is August 3, 2012 (Summer time).

The 15th of Av is the day when people were celebrating, eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage.

Matthew 24:32-33 “Now learn a parable of the fig tree. When his branch is yet tender and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer (is it rapture?) is nigh: so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors”





Another article about Tu B'Av:


The harvest times of God of Barley, Wheat, and Fruit are the ones that have prophetic/spiritual significance.
The first day of the Barley harvest is when Christ rose, being the “First Fruits” of those who slept”, thus making the resurrection of Christ, and those who slept, the prophetic fulfillment of the Barley. This eliminates the rapture of the bride being the Barley!

Then 50 days later, on the first day of the Wheat harvest, the bride of Christ was born, making us the “First Fruits” of the wheat. James 1:18 tells us that we are a “kind of First Fruits” of God. There are only 3 types of first fruits in in the harvests…


First Fruits of Barley, Wheat, & Grapes…

That is why it says “kind of”, because there are more than one! We, the bride, are the first fruits of the wheat, because we were birthed on Pentecost, which is when the first fruits of the wheat is harvested!

By scripture, we are clearly the wheat! So, the prophetic fulfillment of the Wheat harvest is only “half done”. Why?

The prophetic fulfillment of the barley harvest took “one second”, with the resurrection of Christ and “those who slept”. The prophetic fulfillment of the wheat harvest is in two stages….Birth of church & rapture of church!

The church first has to be born, then it takes a couple thousand years to complete the wheat, so that it can’t be fulfilled in a moment or day!!

So, the first half of the fulfillment of the wheat harvest is the birth of the church. The other prophetic fulfillment of the wheat harvest will be the rapture. So, we have been in the prophetic wheat harvest for 2000 plus years.

So, the prophetic wheat harvest ends with the rapture of the bride.

The last first fruits are those of the grapes. The first fruits of the grape harvest are those who have endured the great tribulation (Wrath of Lamb). The first fruits of the grapes are those who are thrown into the wine-press of His wrath (Wrath of Lamb).

The ending of the entire grape harvest is 3.5 years later on the Day of Atonement, at the separation of the sheep/goats judgment!!!

As you can see, the bride of Christ is CLEARLY, CLEARLY the first fruits wheat of God. The timing, of these agricultural harvest times, pattern the “season” they actually occur, in the prophetic sense. Now, this only means one thing….

The rapture of the bride of Christ (completion of wheat harvest) will happen at the time they end agriculturally…in the SUMMER!!!!!!!

Now, to my new insight, I hope from the Holy Ghost….

If you look closely, the beginning and ending of the harvest times are ALL on FESTIVALS!!

Barley harvest beginning – First Fruits/Passover

Barley harvest ending – Pentecost

BOTH JEWISH HOLIDAYS….

Wheat harvest beginning – Pentecost

Wheat harvest ending – Tu B’Av

BOTH JEWISH HOLIDAYS….

Grape harvest beginning – Tu B’Av (This is the day when the grape harvest begins in Israel)…

The grape harvest begins when WHEAT harvest ends, just like Wheat harvest begins when Barley harvest ends!!!

If the grape harvest begins on Tu B’Av, then that is when the WHEAT HARVEST ENDS!!!!!!

Then…

Grape harvest begins – Tu B’Av

Then..Grape harvest ends on JEWISH HOLIDAY AS WELL…

Which would be Atonement!!!!!!!!

All the harvest times begin and finish on JEWISH HOLIDAYS!!!

The wheat harvest then ends on Tu B’Av…thus the rapture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Micah 7 supports this 100%.

It says the rapture (good man vanishes) at the “time of the first ripe grapes”. This is when the first ripe clusters of grapes, off the tree, are cut and this would clearly be the first day the grapes harvest begin…which is “Tu B’Av”.

Ruth married Boaz at end of wheat harvest! So, the rapture is to happen at “end” of wheat harvest…”beginning” of grape harvest which is….

“Tu B’Av”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAPTURE!!!!
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Be raptured from the moon calendar and gregorian calendar double dating system and promote the New Jerusalem calendar for the modern era
[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]


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Let's GO HOME CHURCH!!

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So you are Ron Reese huh? :)

I think if you read this and understand it, you would have a much more accurate idea of the the rapture and things to come.

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6th trump comes before the 7th...

can you people count?

No, the rapture won't be Aug 3rd....No, there won't be a rapture.

Jesus is coming back here, where are you going to fly to before he returns?
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6th trump comes before the 7th...

can you people count?

No, the rapture won't be Aug 3rd....No, there won't be a rapture.

Jesus is coming back here, where are you going to fly to before he returns?
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Jesus is coming for his Church..That is the End of the Wheat Harvest...


The second rapture is the Grape Harvest....After the Tribulation then wicked will end at Christ's return..

Where are we going?

We are not sure, Jesus provided a place for us...

Just my opinion, but I think it will be on a Planet that he has created for us to dwell for a time and rest...
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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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No. Don't go.

Do Not Go There With Them.
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There will be no Secret 'Rapture' by IAUE's Messiah. Yahushua will come at the end of the Great awesome miraculous spiritual deception. Not Before!!!!!! Remember this, there will be no 'Rapture' of the Believers of Yah, an in Yahushua, it is not there; not Biblical.

This is Solar Deity Deception to get you all to go to the dark, dark, bad place with the spirits of evil, who desire you TO ALL DIE!
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6th trump comes before the 7th...

can you people count?

No, the rapture won't be Aug 3rd....No, there won't be a rapture.

Jesus is coming back here, where are you going to fly to before he returns?
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Jesus is coming for his Church..That is the End of the Wheat Harvest...


The second rapture is the Grape Harvest....After the Tribulation then wicked will end at Christ's return..

Where are we going?

We are not sure, Jesus provided a place for us...

Just my opinion, but I think it will be on a Planet that he has created for us to dwell for a time and rest...
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Hey, good question. 'Where are we going'?

You should first be asking them 'Who Are You ?' and take no vague answers, in fact, if you do not get an intro first, before asking, you can be sure that it is not from IAUE.

It is always polite to first identify yourself then state your reason for appearing to the humans, your message.

Don't make them ask. Don't you think?
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"may be the rapture"?? what's teh point of that? you could just as well say "may not be the rapture".

if you don't know when it WILL BE, then it's just idle speculation.
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So does everyone think it would be a great idea to unite all nations into the New Jerusalem Kingdom of God and Jesus Christ on Earth system? [link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]


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I also know that in the Bible Yahushua (at least, Yahshua, never Jesus, never Yeshua, which means the Goat Saves)

what you said, will take us up to where he has prepared a place for us, in His Father Yahueh's Mansions, (great beautiful realms, country, gardens or isles of beauty? instead of mansions I think, nature is far more beautiful than any mansion, mansion is a funny word, poor translation i am thinking.

But back to the 'rapture', please don't believe it, I studied this issue many years, and it is all bs, it is not Scriptural in the least.

We have to endure to the end, and that is possible, though hard, but this is the Biblical injunction, to keep on til the end, thru the tribulation, 'ye shall have tribulation in the world...' no special treatment or miracle to grab us up en masse, is alluded to, only 'hide thyself, as it were for a little moment, until the indigation be overpast', and 'endure to the end', 'faint not', 'when thou fallest, I will holpen thee, ...with a little holpen (help)",

and to expect to be treated poorly by the 'world' who hated him, for he is the Master and we are the servants, so it will be terribly difficult.

No rapture is told about.

Those who are taken are those who are doomed to be destroyed.

Like in the flood account = taken, flood waters took them all away

Just like in the last days, when another ship will come to 'take people away' I think it will be a mothership or ships, craft, and they hae been seen, many people see them, huge craft, capable of seating 1000's of folks, windows, etc, and if not that way, it will be a personal invitation, by the spirit or spirits, angels, of evil intent, to tell you forcibly to 'come with us' to be 'saved from the imminent cataclysm happening to earth' and people will be so frightened, that many or most, I fear, like you have been taught, will take leave of their natural given instintcs and go with them, for trauma has a terrible effect on our better judgment.

We are warned, not to believe the spirits even if they appear as angels of light, to 'test the spirits'.

Ask them Who they are, Who sent them, What The Creator's Name is, What the Messiah's Name is, (same name, no titles, or rather the Father's name is IN the son's name, not Jesus, but Yahushua, or Yahshua)

even then, they may lie and say that name, but I don't think so, don't take 'Yeshua' that means something horrible, (posts above) or Christ, (the canaanites were believers in Solar Christ, and sumericans and Egyptians, were all Christ believers, different names, but Christ is not a name, and you need to look at the character of the guy and his worship rites, practices and beliefs of the adherents to prove which Saviour figure is right according to the Scriptures, if you believe them, go by those, only, not traditions, cause that will trap you in this rapture dectption, please don't believe this, prove it all to yourself that the rapture is a huge lie and very dangerous snare for millions of Christians.

I really have to go, but I will try to get back another day, I pray to Yahu that you will find this truth before it is too late, and do not be fooled by the Winter solstice and Christmas, and Mother Night, December 24, that will all be very very bad deception.

Pray in Yahushua's name, as he told us to pray to His Father Yahueh in. May Yahueh bless you with all truths you need to know, and all your loved ones Goodnight and study fast Love Ingrid
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This... is a VERY informative and appreciated thread, OP. Thank you so very much! We are all looking and praying for our redemption and salvation of the promise of our Lord. Your correlation with its noteworthy testimony has not only invigorated my spirit but created an enhanced sense of anxiousness.

Thank you for your efforts toward making this a most inspirational read.
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6th trump comes before the 7th...

can you people count?

No, the rapture won't be Aug 3rd....No, there won't be a rapture.

Jesus is coming back here, where are you going to fly to before he returns?
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Jesus is coming for his Church..That is the End of the Wheat Harvest...


The second rapture is the Grape Harvest....After the Tribulation then wicked will end at Christ's return..

Where are we going?

We are not sure, Jesus provided a place for us...

Just my opinion, but I think it will be on a Planet that he has created for us to dwell for a time and rest...
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Hey, good question. 'Where are we going'?

You should first be asking them 'Who Are You ?' and take no vague answers, in fact, if you do not get an intro first, before asking, you can be sure that it is not from IAUE.

It is always polite to first identify yourself then state your reason for appearing to the humans, your message.

Don't make them ask. Don't you think?
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We will recognize those who have passed on before us when unite with our loved ones...

There is so many people I would like to see after my LORD Jesus Christ, off hand I would say..I would first like to see my brother Marc, Grandmother Mary and Kitty Zorro...
Susie

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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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I also know that in the Bible Yahushua (at least, Yahshua, never Jesus, never Yeshua, which means the Goat Saves)
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where does the bible say that? you're making it up
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the 7 day wait maybe with start July 27th to August 3rd

Also from the Presidental election..Jan 20th 2008...August 3rd, 2012 is 1290 days as spoken by the Prophet Daniel....

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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i had two dreams about this date!!!
Thread: anything special supposed to happen aug 3rd?
i also had another dream 3 days after that told me the end would be dec 9th
Today, more than ever before, life must be characterized by a sense of universal responsobility, not only nation to nation, and human to human, but also human to other forms of life - Dalai Lama
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6th trump comes before the 7th...

can you people count?

No, the rapture won't be Aug 3rd....No, there won't be a rapture.

Jesus is coming back here, where are you going to fly to before he returns?
 Quoting: TURMOIL


Jesus is coming for his Church..That is the End of the Wheat Harvest...


The second rapture is the Grape Harvest....After the Tribulation then wicked will end at Christ's return..

Where are we going?

We are not sure, Jesus provided a place for us...

Just my opinion, but I think it will be on a Planet that he has created for us to dwell for a time and rest...
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You are very confused.

We aren't going ANYWHERE with the true JESUS until he returns here on the 7th trump.

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Turmoil is right.
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the 7 day wait maybe with start July 27th to August 3rd

Also from the Presidental election..Jan 20th 2008...August 3rd, 2012 is 1290 days as spoken by the Prophet Daniel....

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That's Jan. 20, 2009 for inauguration.

Jan 20, 2009 to August 2, 2012 is 1290

[link to calendarhome.com]

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Jan. 20, 2009 to Sept. 16, 2012 is 1335.

[link to calendarhome.com]

Sept. 16, 2012 is The Feast of Trumpets.

On Sunday night, Sept. 16, 2012, jewish people will begin celebrating one of their most important religious holidays, Rosh Hashanah. It remembers the creation of the world. In Hebrew, Rosh Hashanah means the "head of the year." It is also called the Feast of the Trumpets. The blowing of a ram's horn, a shofar, proclaims Rosh Hashanah, and summons jewish people to religious services.

[link to www.infoplease.com]
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the 7 day wait maybe with start July 27th to August 3rd

Also from the Presidental election..Jan 20th 2008...August 3rd, 2012 is 1290 days as spoken by the Prophet Daniel....

 Quoting: christian


That's Jan. 20, 2009 for inauguration.

Jan 20, 2009 to August 2, 2012 is 1290

[link to calendarhome.com]

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Jan. 20, 2009 to Sept. 16, 2012 is 1335.

[link to calendarhome.com]

Sept. 16, 2012 is The Feast of Trumpets.

On Sunday night, Sept. 16, 2012, jewish people will begin celebrating one of their most important religious holidays, Rosh Hashanah. It remembers the creation of the world. In Hebrew, Rosh Hashanah means the "head of the year." It is also called the Feast of the Trumpets. The blowing of a ram's horn, a shofar, proclaims Rosh Hashanah, and summons jewish people to religious services.

[link to www.infoplease.com]
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Thanks for the correction!
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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The post below appeared on www.bad goose on July 23rd. The author has her own website, linked below, and is also a firm believer, as so many of us watchers are, of the 2008--2015 timeline for the Final 7 Years. We believe that this timeline will still be fullfilled by "the shortening of the days", so that Jesus will still Return to earth in the Fall of 2015. This means that the Rapture and Sudden Dstruction (nuclear World War 3?) must take place very, very soon. Renee M. believes the Lord has shown to her that the time of the Rapture/SD will be on the Jewish festival of Tu B'Av, August 3, 2012!!! Many Bible Prophecy watchers agree that this could very well be the time!!!

Now is the time to BE READY, by preparing yourself spiritually to be part of the Bride of Christ. A wise, expectant, and anxious Bride ALWAYS makes herself READY. Will you be part of the selected Bride, or part of the Sudden Destruction?

Maranatha!

Ron Reese
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Thread: WHY TU B'AV (AUGUST 3, 2012) MAY BE THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH!!!

I wonder how many pre tribbers will have the GUTS to actually read this thread.

Be careful..it WILL expose the lie you have been SOLD.
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The post below appeared on www.bad goose on July 23rd. The author has her own website, linked below, and is also a firm believer, as so many of us watchers are, of the 2008--2015 timeline for the Final 7 Years. We believe that this timeline will still be fullfilled by "the shortening of the days", so that Jesus will still Return to earth in the Fall of 2015. This means that the Rapture and Sudden Dstruction (nuclear World War 3?) must take place very, very soon. Renee M. believes the Lord has shown to her that the time of the Rapture/SD will be on the Jewish festival of Tu B'Av, August 3, 2012!!! Many Bible Prophecy watchers agree that this could very well be the time!!!

Now is the time to BE READY, by preparing yourself spiritually to be part of the Bride of Christ. A wise, expectant, and anxious Bride ALWAYS makes herself READY. Will you be part of the selected Bride, or part of the Sudden Destruction?

Maranatha!

Ron Reese
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Thread: THERE IS NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE!!..READ THIS IF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE!

I wonder how many pre tribbers will have the GUTS to actually read this thread.

Be careful..it WILL expose the lie you have been SOLD.
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Sorry..copied wrong link.

Try this one..IF YOU DARE!

Thread: THERE IS NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE!!..READ THIS IF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE!
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the 7 day wait maybe with start July 27th to August 3rd

Also from the Presidental election..Jan 20th 2008...August 3rd, 2012 is 1290 days as spoken by the Prophet Daniel....

 Quoting: christian


That's Jan. 20, 2009 for inauguration.

Jan 20, 2009 to August 2, 2012 is 1290

[link to calendarhome.com]

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Jan. 20, 2009 to Sept. 16, 2012 is 1335.

[link to calendarhome.com]

Sept. 16, 2012 is The Feast of Trumpets.

On Sunday night, Sept. 16, 2012, jewish people will begin celebrating one of their most important religious holidays, Rosh Hashanah. It remembers the creation of the world. In Hebrew, Rosh Hashanah means the "head of the year." It is also called the Feast of the Trumpets. The blowing of a ram's horn, a shofar, proclaims Rosh Hashanah, and summons jewish people to religious services.

[link to www.infoplease.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16250533



Thanks for the correction!
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You're welcome.

Since Jewish holidays begin at sundown on the day before, the Tu B'Av starts at sundown on August 2, 2012 and ends at sundown on August 3, 2012. As shown on this Jewish synagogue calendar.

[link to www.bethelnr.org]

Tu B’Av

On the fifteenth of Av, forty years after the jewish people began wandering in the desert, the jewish people learned that G-d would allow them to enter the Promised Land. Secular Israelis celebrate Tu B’Av as a minor holiday of love, also called Hag Ha-Ahava, with night-long concerts


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Tisha B'AV or the 9th of Av begins at sundown on the 27th.

Tisha B'Av

On the ninth day of Av, jewish people fast and mourn to commemorate both the destruction of the First and Second Temples and also, other tragedies which the jewish people have experienced on this date throughout history. The Mishnah (Taanit 4:6) mentions five sorrowful events that occurred on the ninth of Av. Both Temples were destroyed on the ninth of Av: first by the Babylonians in 586 B.C.E. and next by the Romans in 70 C.E. Ten of Moses’s twelve scouts had disparaged Canaan to the Israelites, such that God punished that generation of Israelites for lack of faith and kept them from entering the Promised Land. Simon Bar Kokhba’s revolt against the Romans failed on this date in 135 C.E., resulting in his death and the destruction of the city of Betar, and Jerusalem was destroyed. In addition, on this date in 1492, Spain expelled its jewish people. This annual fast day falls in July or August.



Tisha B’Av marks the end of a three-week mourning period, beginning with the fast of the seventeenth of Tammuz, which commemorates the first breach in Jerusalem’s walls. For the first nine days of Av, with the exception of Shabbat, jewish people traditionally avoid indulgence in meat, wine, and new clothes. Weddings, parties, and haircuts are not permitted during the three-week mourning period. On Tisha B’Av, jewish people do not perform regular work. As on Yom Kippur, jewish people also do not eat, drink, wash, shave, bathe, wear cosmetics, wear leather shoes, or engage in sexual relations. Since Torah study is considered an enjoyable activity, the only permitted texts on Tisha B’Av are portions of Jeremiah, the Book of Lamentations, the Book of Job, and Torah chapters on laws for mourning. The most observant sit on low stools and avoid idle or joyful behavior or conversation. In synagogues, the ark is covered in black, and congregations read Kinnot, (elegies) and the Book of Lamentations. Since the Temple was thought to have burned from the ninth of Av through most of the tenth of Av, many jewish people fast until nightfall but customarily refrain from eating meat and drinking wine until noon of the day after Tisha B’Av.

[link to www.bethelnr.org]


Tisha B'Av Observances
Note: Jewish holidays begin at sundown the day before the date specified for the holiday.

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