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SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 07/27/2012 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Thanks Wonder Woman!... ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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snark Forum Administrator User ID: 1050548 United States 07/27/2012 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Excellent as usual, SHR T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
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SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 07/27/2012 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Thank you. Now here are the big questions.... You think they know?...I do...and if so for how long? and is there a concerted effort to supress the information? I did a fast google search of "Stress college students" pretty generic and broad search terms...see the results for yourself...there are only a few hits in the first 4 PAGES of hits that are results even from this year, most by far are from last year and older...not a single hit about Holmes in all those first 4 pages... Now with what just happened...does anyone else find that a bit odd?... [link to www.google.com] Last Edited by SHR on 07/27/2012 12:27 AM ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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alien User ID: 20145301 United States 07/27/2012 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Great post. I'm inclined to completely agree with you. It makes sense. My question is this: Is this a relatively new phenomenon or has this been going on since before the msm has taken a grasp on it? Honest question, I don't know the answer to it. One of your links there starts its timeline in 1996. Perhaps past shootings were not as notorious, or may have been contained more on a local level, but our society has been raising creeps for a very long time now. Still with these recent shootings, it seems the perps have this horrific sense of accomplishment for their terrible actions. Something they didn't possess while going through the school system. R. Mutt |
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SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 07/27/2012 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Great post. Quoting: alien I'm inclined to completely agree with you. It makes sense. My question is this: Is this a relatively new phenomenon or has this been going on since before the msm has taken a grasp on it? Honest question, I don't know the answer to it. One of your links there starts its timeline in 1996. Perhaps past shootings were not as notorious, or may have been contained more on a local level, but our society has been raising creeps for a very long time now. Still with these recent shootings, it seems the perps have this horrific sense of accomplishment for their terrible actions. Something they didn't possess while going through the school system. Ya know prior to that timeline?...there seems to be very little, perhaps very little compiled, but it seems like a far more rare event in the past to me. Couple articles below...nothing really stands out as actual "student shooters"...I will look deeper, I am sure there are more. You bring up a very interesting point...an "accomplishment"...that could be another pyschological componant...they weren't going to accomplish anything in school, maybe even after or so they were convinced....so they accomplished this.. How sad and frikkin demented is THAT concept?.... [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to chronicle.com] ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 07/27/2012 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Alright I pinned it...which I don't like to do with my own essay type threads...but you guys put enough votes in...so I caved..lol! ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 07/27/2012 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. One from '91....earily similar with the letters to holmes and his own "journal"...seems both went into details of the killings which were about to happen....and months of planning... >>>>> University of Iowa shooting 1991 The University of Iowa shooting took place at the University of Iowa in Iowa City, Iowa on November 1, 1991. The gunman was Gang Lu, a 28-year-old former graduate student at the university. He killed four members of the university faculty and one student, and seriously wounded another student, before committing suicide. Perpetrator and motives Gang Lu The perpetrator of the shooting was 28-year-old a former graduate student at the University of Iowa. Lu was a physics and astronomy student who had received his doctoral degree from the university in May 1991. (His dissertation was titled, Study of the "Critical Ionization Velocity" Effect by Particle-in-Cell Simulation.) He was still living in Iowa City after graduating. As a graduate student Gang Lu was primarily a loner who was perceived by at least one other graduate student to have deep psychological problems. In the months prior to the shooting, Lu wrote five letters explaining the reasons for his planned actions. According to university officials, four of the letters were in English and were intended to be mailed to news organizations. One letter was written in Chinese. The letters have never been released to the public. Lu was infuriated because his dissertation did not receive the prestigious D.C. Spriestersbach Dissertation Prize. This prize included a monetary award of $2,500. Gang Lu believed that winning the prize would have made it easier for him to get hired as a professor. Lu was unable to find work because of the recession. Normally, in this instance, the physics and astronomy department would have given Lu a temporary postdoctoral fellowship. Unfortunately, there was not enough money to support him. [link to en.wikipedia.org] ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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alien User ID: 20145301 United States 07/27/2012 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. One from '91....earily similar with the letters to holmes and his own "journal"...seems both went into details of the killings which were about to happen....and months of planning... Quoting: SHR >>>>> University of Iowa shooting 1991 The University of Iowa shooting took place at the University of Iowa in Iowa City, Iowa on November 1, 1991. The gunman was Gang Lu, a 28-year-old former graduate student at the university. He killed four members of the university faculty and one student, and seriously wounded another student, before committing suicide. Perpetrator and motives Gang Lu The perpetrator of the shooting was 28-year-old a former graduate student at the University of Iowa. Lu was a physics and astronomy student who had received his doctoral degree from the university in May 1991. (His dissertation was titled, Study of the "Critical Ionization Velocity" Effect by Particle-in-Cell Simulation.) He was still living in Iowa City after graduating. As a graduate student Gang Lu was primarily a loner who was perceived by at least one other graduate student to have deep psychological problems. In the months prior to the shooting, Lu wrote five letters explaining the reasons for his planned actions. According to university officials, four of the letters were in English and were intended to be mailed to news organizations. One letter was written in Chinese. The letters have never been released to the public. Lu was infuriated because his dissertation did not receive the prestigious D.C. Spriestersbach Dissertation Prize. This prize included a monetary award of $2,500. Gang Lu believed that winning the prize would have made it easier for him to get hired as a professor. Lu was unable to find work because of the recession. Normally, in this instance, the physics and astronomy department would have given Lu a temporary postdoctoral fellowship. Unfortunately, there was not enough money to support him. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Similar to the Cho case, who did send materials to news outlets. It's interesting because this was an instance where the shooter made it extremely apparent that he was directly lashing out at the school system. R. Mutt |
mathetes User ID: 18119575 United States 07/27/2012 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Excellent post my friend. As someone who has 3 family members in college presently, My wife is a yr away form her Acct degree, our oldest son grad. next fall (Comp science Arabic minor), and our youngest goes away in August. They all attest that many of their classmates have no biz in college. Some are forced by parents, some are afraid of getting a job & joining the real world and some think THEY HAVE to go to college to succeed. I know many successful people who never set foot inside a University. For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 07/27/2012 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Dads are no longer allowed to be Dads. Quoting: Evil_Twin The new generation of Dads don't even know how. That has a lot to do with it IMO...a LOT to do with it... Schools have taken over much of the job of parenting now and that has multiple downsides...teachers do not get to just teach any longer, even if they want to, they spend a hell of a lot of time playing parent to these children, especially in the younger years. You also get the committee of correctness deciding how to not only educate, but playing a much more expanded role in raising the children...spawn of Pelosi and Reid....I'd rather have ZOMBIES! ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20635567 Ireland 07/27/2012 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. We are not armed here in this part of the world, but I do think that the levels of violence on the Internet and in movies is affecting the development of young people's psyches, and leading to more street violence.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8443185 United States 07/27/2012 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Oops Thought I clicked 5 star and after hitting button saw I voted "reasonable" instead! LOL Excellent analysis SHR!!! Great insight... now how do you figure the brainwashed MKultra angle into all of this? Seems to me these kind of kids become vulnerable to be used for one agenda or another. |
Evil_Twin User ID: 14319721 United States 07/27/2012 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. I do think that the levels of violence on the Internet and in movies is affecting the development of young people's psyches, and leading to more street violence.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20635567 I think the far greater effect on kids is because they are being taught that there are no consequences. They get "participation Medals" now, rather than 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place ribbons. What happens when you're 25, you suck, and you don't get a medal as you always have? Last Edited by Evil_Twin on 07/27/2012 01:38 AM |
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alien User ID: 20145301 United States 07/27/2012 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Whoa. Here we go. History of School Shootings on Wikipedia [link to en.wikipedia.org] Been going on for a long time. SHR - I still think your essay in the op is extremely valid. It's just a new breed of monsters is all. Edit: The MASS shootings don't start really till about the 1960s. And barely. The trend starts to pick up in the 80s, and its just gets worse and worse from that point on. Last Edited by alien on 07/27/2012 01:54 AM R. Mutt |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20635567 Ireland 07/27/2012 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Actually...we all end up 'sucking' in the end to a certain extent. We all end up realising at some point 'is that it?'. We have been brought up, since I guess the baby boomers generation, to believe in some demi-god-like trajectory of individual accomplishment, that we can all become the 'be-all and end-all', the so-called 'American dream', (which was exported). Hardly anyone gets that whilst we might each of us be unique, we are none of us special... But, I DO think it is the violence on screen that has the most profound effect...it sets up neural pathways in vulnerable undeveloped brains, images and suggestions that the developing brain simply cannot cope with (cf Rudolph Steiner). Whereas before we might have 'heard' of gruesome things we absorbed them on a brain level in a form that we could 'cope' with, now young people get to watch graphic imagery right in their faces with no buffering... |
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khnum User ID: 455005 Australia 07/27/2012 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. There are PHD's that cant change a tyre give me a graduate of the school of hard knocks any day,of the four millionaires I have known only one did college the rest never finished high school a degree is not a necessity,character however is. |
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SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 07/27/2012 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter. Excellent post my friend. As someone who has 3 family members in college presently, My wife is a yr away form her Acct degree, our oldest son grad. next fall (Comp science Arabic minor), and our youngest goes away in August. They all attest that many of their classmates have no biz in college. Some are forced by parents, some are afraid of getting a job & joining the real world and some think THEY HAVE to go to college to succeed. Quoting: mathetes I know many successful people who never set foot inside a University. Same here...you know decades ago "college" didn't have to be the path for everyone and NOT taking that road was not looked down at like it is today. I went for some, but I never finished...it truly annoyed the fuckall out of me...I was basically going for my trade which I was working in while going, mechanical technology, pre mech engineering. Some of the "Professors" were frikkin worthless at the lab (hands on) stuff...I ended up doing more for and in those classes than they did. I just said, screw this, I can do better opening my own shop one day. I subscribed to that old addage, those who know how and can, do...those who know how and can't, teach...but these guys couldn't do much of anything unless was purely a paper exercise...I can remember clearly several times making some kind of WTF face while the prof droned on....he'd say something like, you seem to take issue with that Mr SHR?... I'd say....uh yeah....you ain't doing THAT on these old tired POS machines...hell even new they couldn't THAT... He'd say Oh really now, well you just set that up like I said and we'll see....then the whole class would gather round...he'd check it all out...ahh ok we have this...this is good, see this?...that's how this is supposed to be... Then the moment of truth with prof machinist at the switch ready to have at it...I'd usually take a step or so back...for dramatic impact....a few guys in the program all knew each other...they'd be back too if I was...then the real impact when prof would turn the machine on...engage feeds and crunch, stall, bust, launch or any combination of other metal mayhem catastrophies would happen... That one particular time he made some excuses about the horsepower not being what it should have been....which would have only made his fail worse... I remember saying under my breath...fuck this bullshit...another guy who was sort of school buddy looked at me like, "Help us man, help us" so I stayed and finished out that Manufacturing processes class, but it was one of my last ones...I got a few more stories just like that one, and better...but that was about ALL I got out of it... THAT was MY college experience... ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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