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SA 2575. Mr. LAUTENBERG (for himself, Mrs. BOXER, Mr. REED, Mr. MENENDEZ, Mrs. GILLIBRAND, Mr. SCHUMER, and Mrs. FEINSTEIN) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S. 3414, to enhance the security and resiliency of the cyber and communications infrastructure of the United States; which was ordered to lie on the table; as follows:

At the appropriate place, insert the following

SEC. __. PROHIBITION ON TRANSFER OR POSSESSION OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.

(a) Definition.--Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after paragraph (29) the following:

``(30) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device'--

``(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; but

``(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.''.

(b) Prohibitions.--Section 922 of such title is amended by inserting after subsection (u) the following:

``(v)(1)(A)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), it shall be unlawful for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device.

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``(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to the possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise lawfully possessed within the United States on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection.

``(B) It shall be unlawful for any person to import or bring into the United States a large capacity ammunition feeding device.

``(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--

``(A) a manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);

``(B) a transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining an on-site physical protection system and security organization required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or contractor of such a licensee on-site for such purposes or off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or transportation of nuclear materials;

``(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity ammunition feeding device transferred to the individual by the agency upon that retirement; or

``(D) a manufacture, transfer, or possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device by a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Attorney General.''.

(c) Penalties.--Section 924(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following:

``( Whoever knowingly violates section 922(v) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.''.

(d) Identification Markings.--Section 923(i) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following: ``A large capacity ammunition feeding device manufactured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall be identified by a serial number that clearly shows that the device was manufactured after such date of enactment, and such other identification as the Attorney General may by regulation prescribe.''.

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The vote on this is next week BTW.
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bump
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bump, well where is everone?

if this is for real, is there any news links yet?
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07/27/2012 01:03 AM
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It's gun control through the back door, like the UN gun control treaty.

"Under the radar" as Obama said.
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op fine somekind of news on this from some website, and how did you find it your self?

i wonder if the nra knows about it?
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07/27/2012 01:10 AM
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It was linked on a gun forum I frequent. I included the link to the government website in the op.
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07/27/2012 01:13 AM
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op fine somekind of news on this from some website, and how did you find it your self?

i wonder if the nra knows about it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20634168


The NRA are gun control shills. They are controlled opposition.

Look it up. Every gun control bill was supported by the NRA.
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07/27/2012 01:18 AM
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In an earlier thread:
[link to thehill.com]
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Very good catch OP, I will do a video and spread as far and as fasat as I can. These sick bastards jsut never quit with their damn poilce state do they?!?yoda
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Rats!
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wow, so it's real.
damn.

are they really that scared of the american people?
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You would think a Democrat pushed bill in the Senate would be dead on arrival in the House. Hopefully this amendment dies a quick and painful death.
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So.... What is the problem again? It's been proven that owners of guns are 4.5x more likely to be shot and killed. And if that doesn't get you then the authorities will. Do you really think you stand any sort of chance fighting off the police, SWAT teams, CIA, and the National Guard with your automatic rifle? Are you really expecting to "hold em off" from your "compound", with your mullet blowing in the wind of battle and your freshly ironed Union Jack on the back of your sleeveless jean jacket?

C'mon, use your head...

putin
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bump, well where is everone?

if this is for real, is there any news links yet?
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Tell your Senator to vote NO on this amendment.

Do it now.

Do it here: [link to www.congress.org]

You can send them email, land mail, and phone them.

I'm doing just that.

Imagine an AR-15 with no 30-60-90 round clip; it becomes a POS. Your bump-fire attachment becomes POS... totally fucks the gun.

An AR-15 has a lot of uses other than being a soldier gun. I use mine to plink at the range all the time.
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Problem reaction, solution.
Problem, the government is out of control
reaction people buy firearms
solution, abolish the government and start over with individual freedom for all.




ABOLISH THE GOVERNMENT, and all their dipshit individual freedom hating laws, regulations, police state, body scans, predator drones, NDAA, constitution hating asses.

FREEDOM!

Last Edited by GodFrequency on 07/27/2012 01:34 AM
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2nd Amendment...

The Supreme Court has now definitively held that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that weapon for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Moreover, this right applies not just to the federal government, but to states and municipalities as well.

The actual amendment:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

It is an INFRINGEMENT on my right to dictate the number of rounds my weapon's clips can hold.

So fuck you, Congress. Not going to happen and I will not submit to bullshit.
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Those idiots who try and support that bill can lick the salty sweat off my ass cuz I sure as hell aint giving up anything except the bullets which will be given at extremely high velocities.
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LOL. Big deal. Ten rounds are plenty for the purpose of self defense or hunting.
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So.... What is the problem again? It's been proven that owners of guns are 4.5x more likely to be shot and killed. And if that doesn't get you then the authorities will. Do you really think you stand any sort of chance fighting off the police, SWAT teams, CIA, and the National Guard with your automatic rifle? Are you really expecting to "hold em off" from your "compound", with your mullet blowing in the wind of battle and your freshly ironed Union Jack on the back of your sleeveless jean jacket?

C'mon, use your head...

putin
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I would suspect that in Canada, the percentage is much higher since law-abiding people have been stripped of their right to self defense. Unfortunately, since the firearms are not legal and their owners criminals, statistics are worthless.

I guess it could be argued that in Canada there are many more owners of illegal guns as a percentage than in the United States....

See? With Canada's laws and skewed statistics, it would be easy to say that Canadians break many more gun ownership laws as a percentage of firearms than Americans.

Evil Canadians.
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just wait, I'll bet it gets better by next week
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It will never make it through the current House.
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LOL. Big deal. Ten rounds are plenty for the purpose of self defense or hunting.
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Hunting isn't the purpose of the second amendment. It really isn't that difficult to understand.
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LOL. Big deal. Ten rounds are plenty for the purpose of self defense or hunting.
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Hunting isn't the purpose of the second amendment. It really isn't that difficult to understand.
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clappa
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people arnt going to do shit about this because they are too busy with their bullshit trite lives to care or notice, they have their football and their bar bee ques. they got their american idol and TMZ. They got their mundane 9 to five and a mortgage and a house and kids, and their lil dog "spot". people ARE lazy and fucking docile. people wont do shit untill they are backed into a corner with nothing but their clothes on their backs. then it will be to late anyways. so keep watching springger and masturbating on facebook. fucking lemmings.
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people arnt going to do shit about this because they are too busy with their bullshit trite lives to care or notice, they have their football and their bar bee ques. they got their american idol and TMZ. They got their mundane 9 to five and a mortgage and a house and kids, and their lil dog "spot". people ARE lazy and fucking docile. people wont do shit untill they are backed into a corner with nothing but their clothes on their backs. then it will be to late anyways. so keep watching springger and masturbating on facebook. fucking lemmings.
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umm.. wait i thought a whole buch of americans are all ready out of work and have no income so that part you wrote about
the ,

"with nothing but their clothes on their backs. then it will be to late anyways."


hasn't that happened allready?
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people arnt going to do shit about this because they are too busy with their bullshit trite lives to care or notice, they have their football and their bar bee ques. they got their american idol and TMZ. They got their mundane 9 to five and a mortgage and a house and kids, and their lil dog "spot". people ARE lazy and fucking docile. people wont do shit untill they are backed into a corner with nothing but their clothes on their backs. then it will be to late anyways. so keep watching springger and masturbating on facebook. fucking lemmings.
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umm.. wait i thought a whole buch of americans are all ready out of work and have no income so that part you wrote about
the ,

"with nothing but their clothes on their backs. then it will be to late anyways."


hasn't that happened allready?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20634168


not quite yet, theyre on welfare and unemployment (a slave system for the less fortunate) . kept alive just enough to still be docile. When I say nothing but clothes on your back, I mean that quite literally.
You can grow ideas, in the garden of your MIND.
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this is huge
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this is huge
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THATS WHAT SHE SAID!

cough cough..... herm...... just kidding.....but seriously....
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The issue is not 'size of magazine' but the displays of violence in Movies, Music, TV, etc. along with the Godlessness propagated by the United States Congress and Courts.

Get rid of violent media and reinstitute God public schools and you'll see violent crime reduced substantially.

De Toqueville: "America is great because she is good; when she ceases to be good, she will no longer be great."
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So.... What is the problem again? It's been proven that owners of guns are 4.5x more likely to be shot and killed. And if that doesn't get you then the authorities will. Do you really think you stand any sort of chance fighting off the police, SWAT teams, CIA, and the National Guard with your automatic rifle? Are you really expecting to "hold em off" from your "compound", with your mullet blowing in the wind of battle and your freshly ironed Union Jack on the back of your sleeveless jean jacket?

C'mon, use your head...

putin
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You're a coward.

If I take down 2 before I go and everyone else does as well, then we win.





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