50% Population UNEMPLOYED in Spain and Greece

Companies and workers do business in black, there's no way to pay taxes and put food on the table at the same time.

This gives tha false impression of unemployment, but the economy has just gone submerged.

Very true. In the field of computer programming, its a widely known mantra that laziness, hubris, and impatience are the three virtues of a great programmer.

I think that was sarcasm.

at least there, one can get by without utilities or transportation. It will be fun to try that in american cities, especially in the north, shen it gets here

Fish what? Mediterranée and Ionian Sea have been looted..
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I AM GREEK AND I LIVE AND WORK IN ATHENS..Yes THE UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS ARE VERY HIGH THANKS TO THE RECESSION CAUSED BY THE TROIKA MEMORANDUM AND THEIR EXTREME AUSTERITY MEASURES THAT ANY PERSON WITH HALF A BRAIN FOR SIMPLE ECONOMICS WILL TELL YOU ARE NO GOOD AND LEADING THIS COUNTRY STRAIGHT TOWARDS A DEAD END...BUT 52%????

Where on earth did u come up with that number?
Please dont post about subjects you know nothing about sitting at your home thousands of miles away..

Greeks are struggling with austerity but we have been through worse during the thousads of years of our proud history..we will make it through this once again..with or without the euro
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Dont believe the bullshit propaganda you hear on the news..no riots no wars no famine here...and for those of us who have problems there is always Greek solidarity from family and friends..thats what Greece is about..
So get on a plane and come and enjoy our beautiful country,the sun,the gorgeous beaches,the great food and the wornderfull hospitality of the Greek people which the Greeks call Filoxenia(being friendly to a stranger) and even in the ancient times had a god for named Xenios Zeus..

enjoy the rest of the summer..

love to everyone

Spain has tons of people from Latinamerica and tons of people from North africa, they all have jacked in their suckers into that economic system.

If they kicked out all these they would be much better off, same goes for Greece with their over a million illegals from the middle east and africa, i forgot Spain has plenty from sub-saharan Africa too.

Their elites effed them by bringing in these foreigners.

What's a Puerta Rican day parade? Something you seem to have experience in I see...

They should fake the unemployment statistic just like other countries do.

Or get rid of it and replace it with a quality of life index.
There you go, you'd been on top right away.

Yes, the ruling chaste has iported cheap 3rd world laboureres by the millions, Spaniards are forced to become 3rd world themselves in order to get a job.

under General Franco 1 salary was enough to keep a family and an appartment was paid-off in 5-10 years.

Today the whole family has to toll for life just to afford a roof above their heads.

Sorry, WHAT???????

By the way, those unemployment numbers don't count the self-employed that no longer have work.

My Spanish neighbour had to pay €350 per month in social security payments plus his taxes but is not entitled to a single cent in unemployment benefits.

As someone mentioned above about working 'on the black', as it's known here, they're right where the self employed are concerned because they may have one or two day's work this week and then nothing for another 2 or 3 weeks. How can they pay €350 per month to social security, pay rent, bills and food when they may only be working the equivalent of 1 week out of 4? Simple answer is they don't!

Maybe they are from CA or TX and think Mexicans are EVERYWHERE.

They might already be doing that. Who knows.

Don't think a quality of life index would work that well either frankly.

Hei!

Here all is so fine.
I don`t understand what you are talking about.

lol, where do you live? I totally agree with the AC. Our water and electricity can be off for up to 2 days with no compensation and we muddle through. As I mentioned in a previous post, plenty of homegrown produce is shared among locals. Infrastructure here can be very basic in some areas. The Costa del Sol doesn't even have a proper 'modern' way to get rid of raw sewage... it still goes straight in the med!

And the fish come from where?

Employment is a lousy way to earn a living anyway.

Love to you as well.

I want Greece and Spain to pull out of the EURO and reclaim their inherit ability to be self-sustaining.

Nevertheless, I was in Greece when you burned down the bank, with people in it. I was there when China used a German Mercedes while in "private" talks about buying your debt, while the German mfg remotely listened. Many cars have voice activation capabilities.

You have riots and you should prepare for a winter famine. Pretty soon your men will be considered for hire if Turkey gets involved in the Syrian Civil War. Haven't you heard, war is used to balance the budget.

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These statistics are in relation to 18-25 year olds not the entire population. Also remember that the majority of these students would enter university further exaggerating these numbers as they continued to be unemployed for four more years. Though I can guarantee you that 50% of this age range is not attending university.

Since you sitting around reading this ..You must be jobless also... Have some compassion !

You have no clue what these people are going through.

you glad bastards.

Yeah, they also expect the French & Germans to work & save money to support them.

You DO know why Hitler won the 1933 votings? DO you?

It's true that there a phenomenal amount of immigrants in Spain but the real problem is that after 4 years of recession, they are only just starting to change the unemployment benifits system/ the dole. You still don't even have to be in the country to recieve around 1000€ / month in one payment.

BULLSHIT AND FUCK YOU!

go west...äh I mean: go North!

Thanks for bringing that up AC. :puke:


Greece and Spain have issues with each other as well. Spain's dumping sewage into the ocean and Greece has lost fishing due to contaminates like sewage.

“It’s death by a thousand cuts,” said Enric Ballesteros of Spain’s National Research Council and coauthor of the study. Among them are overexploitation, destruction of habitat, contamination, a rise in sea surface temperatures due to climate change and more than 600 invasive species. On the southwest coast of Turkey, for example, an invasive fish from the Red Sea called the dusky spinefoot has left Gokova Bay’s rock reefs empty.



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Yep! Straight out of the Med - but the sardines cooked on the beaches are delicious. It's also where all the tourist come to swim in the lovely warm sea.

"For 40 years the Costa del Sol has been praying for an end to the pumping of raw sewage out to sea"

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Spain is always a good laugh. The government pushes so many kids to go to school and go to university that they're completely bankrupt. They have one of the highest education rates in the world and also the worst employment rates in the world. If they would teach these kids anything, they would teach them how to run a business.