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School Students Who Qualify for Free or Reduced Lunches---Shocked!

 
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I was checking out the schools in my district on the National Center for School Statistics (link below) when I noticed that most of the schools in my area have students eligible for free or reduced lunches--as much as 75 percent of all students can receive free lunches! Now, to qualify for free or reduced lunches in my area, it's usually done by Welfare, who then notifies the schools that a student is eligible. I was quite shocked that the numbers were that high!

Use this link to find schools in your area: [link to nces.ed.gov]

Under "Enrollment Characteristics" it will give you the number of students that can or are receiving free lunches, as well as reduced lunches. It will also give the number of boys and girls that attend the school. For example, one school (Pre-K through Kindergarten) that I looked at here has:

Free lunch eligible: 130
Reduced-price lunch eligible: 22
Enrollment by Gender:
Male: 158
Female: 130
Total students: 288
Free/reduced lunches: 152

That's well over half of all students and that school only holds 2 grades--pre-k and kindergarten.

How does your district or schools compare? Is it that high as well?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016


That's not too bad. I checked a bunch of schools in other nearby areas and they were high as well. I live in the rust belt so apparently half the population must be on welfare.
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In our district 181 out of 430 students qualify for FREE lunch. We live in a predominately middle to upper-middle class part of town within walking distance of the school. There's no way those of us who live near the school would qualify. That number would be shocking without looking at other factors like..they bus in children from outlying areas that live closer to other schools that are more inner city.
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Last year my husband was unemployed for a number of months and did not qualify for unemployment so we signed up for the food stamp program until he could find a job. This is not something we rushed into as an upper middle class family, the idea of "food stamps" was not something we wanted to be a part of...it was really our last resort.

That said, as soon as we signed up for this, they put our children on the free lunch roles without our knowledge but when we found out, we were grateful for the extra financial relief. Then three months later, my husband found a good paying job and we immediately got off of the food stamp program! We notified our children's school that they were no longer to receive free lunches and sent lunch money with them every day after that.

The school refused to accept their lunch money and refused to take them off the free lunch program! I was irate! We no longer qualified and did not want our children to benefit from something that we could now afford to pay for when so many other children were in need. The school told us why they refused to take our children off...they get government grant money for every child that is on the free/reduced lunch program. For us to insist that they REMOVE our children from this list was, to them, taking money out of their pockets!

For the rest of the school year, we continued to send lunch money with our children and they continued to refuse it but at least our conscience is clear. This system is SO BROKE, it's not even funny!!!!!!
huffy
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The school told us why they refused to take our children off...they get government grant money for every child that is on the free/reduced lunch program.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21231157


This and two other facts:

1) Obama WANTS every person in this country to suck on the govt tit to survive

2) To make sure your child is fed the "diet" they want your kids to have. Growth hormones, genetics and mind control.
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The school told us why they refused to take our children off...they get government grant money for every child that is on the free/reduced lunch program.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21231157


This and two other facts:

1) Obama WANTS every person in this country to suck on the govt tit to survive

2) To make sure your child is fed the "diet" they want your kids to have. Growth hormones, genetics and mind control.
 Quoting: chaakin


Pink slime for all!
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I had free lunches when I was in high school, but I rarely ever ate them. This was before I learned about them being utter garbage. The school lunches are just absolutely terrible and not appealing. I ended up just bringing my own lunch to school.
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Last year my husband was unemployed for a number of months and did not qualify for unemployment so we signed up for the food stamp program until he could find a job. This is not something we rushed into as an upper middle class family, the idea of "food stamps" was not something we wanted to be a part of...it was really our last resort.

That said, as soon as we signed up for this, they put our children on the free lunch roles without our knowledge but when we found out, we were grateful for the extra financial relief. Then three months later, my husband found a good paying job and we immediately got off of the food stamp program! We notified our children's school that they were no longer to receive free lunches and sent lunch money with them every day after that.

The school refused to accept their lunch money and refused to take them off the free lunch program! I was irate! We no longer qualified and did not want our children to benefit from something that we could now afford to pay for when so many other children were in need. The school told us why they refused to take our children off...they get government grant money for every child that is on the free/reduced lunch program. For us to insist that they REMOVE our children from this list was, to them, taking money out of their pockets!

For the rest of the school year, we continued to send lunch money with our children and they continued to refuse it but at least our conscience is clear. This system is SO BROKE, it's not even funny!!!!!!
huffy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21231157

This is why the schools want students on FR lunches...no child left behind requires testing all students, and there is a percentage that has to be proficient. In the results there are smaller subgroups and if the subgroups fall below the mark, you lose. The categories include race-black, Asian, Pacific Islander, etc. then their are groups FR lunch and special ed. The economy has helped schools on their scores because families with children that normally excel are facing unemployment and qualify. FR lunches used to fail the tests, but now that all kinds of kids can be thrown in it's a gold mine. Teaching didn't improve, kids didnt learn more, but the school looks like they nailed it because FR scores went up. Schools aren't going to give that up. Yes, it's like cheating, kind of.
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08/09/2012 09:20 PM
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Every kid in the City of Erie PA Public school district get free breakfast and lunch regardless of household income... I think there is 10k plus kids...
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08/09/2012 09:24 PM
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Every kid in the City of Erie PA Public school district get free breakfast and lunch regardless of household income... I think there is 10k plus kids...
 Quoting: pop 1319684


It's big business for schools. I'm an administrator, you should see how many of those trays of food gets thrown away, but the kids still buy the snacks ala carte, at around $6 each meal. Get this, they must take the free tray first, then buy the overpriced ala carte. Required by law, they have to take the tray. Check our schools financials, you'll find cafeteria services are the area in the black.
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08/09/2012 09:27 PM
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Total enrollment 1,366


Enrollment by Race/Ethnicity:
Amer Ind/ 1
Alaskan

Asian/
Pacific Islander 30

Black 693 332 271

Hispanic 332

White 271

Free lunch eligible: 857
Reduced-price lunch eligible: 156

Total lunches given out... 1013

Total blacks and hispanics... 1025


I have three other schools close to me
ALL Of them, has almost identical number Black / Hispanic and free lunches.

Wonder if that 'lil coinkidinky is just where I live....
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08/09/2012 09:29 PM
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Every child gets free breakfast/lunch and some snacks here in Van Dyke public in MI.
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08/09/2012 09:31 PM
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Total enrollment 1,366


Enrollment by Race/Ethnicity:
Amer Ind/ 1
Alaskan

Asian/
Pacific Islander 30

Black 693 332 271

Hispanic 332

White 271

Free lunch eligible: 857
Reduced-price lunch eligible: 156

Total lunches given out... 1013

Total blacks and hispanics... 1025


I have three other schools close to me
ALL Of them, has almost identical number Black / Hispanic and free lunches.

Wonder if that 'lil coinkidinky is just where I live....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141

That is why the big increase in FR. You get double hit, black and FR normally do poorly. It's the same kids counting against your scores x2. So along comes another kid, smart and hardworking and now FR, then the school stands a chance of bringing up one of the subcategories.
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Every child gets free breakfast/lunch and some snacks here in Van Dyke public in MI.
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Believe me, it's not out of the goodness of their hearts, put everybody on Free lunch and you don't take a hit. Low test scores means the district loses money. It's strategy, with tax money.
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08/09/2012 09:36 PM
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You're going to love this.

I gave the school the money in one of those online pay accounts and they won't take it.

There is no way I qualify for even a reduced price lunch, but they are giving it to both kids for free.

Then I get calls from the school all summer saying that anyone is welcome for free breakfasts and lunches at the school all summer. Then they call saying they have a free wifi hotspot.

WTF?
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08/09/2012 09:37 PM
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It is not just welfare families that qualify, It is, supposedly, based on income....not that there is much checking going on.

SO, families in the category of working poor definitely qualify.

Based on that so do almost all illegal immigrants and they are getting the free meals.

Certainly, there is a lot of wasted food. However, the free breakfast and lunch is the only food some students get.
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Every child gets free breakfast/lunch and some snacks here in Van Dyke public in MI.
 Quoting: truz1980


Believe me, it's not out of the goodness of their hearts, put everybody on Free lunch and you don't take a hit. Low test scores means the district loses money. It's strategy, with tax money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20094015


That is why my kids are not part of the publc school system.hf
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It is not just welfare families that qualify, It is, supposedly, based on income....not that there is much checking going on.

SO, families in the category of working poor definitely qualify.

Based on that so do almost all illegal immigrants and they are getting the free meals.

Certainly, there is a lot of wasted food. However, the free breakfast and lunch is the only food some students get.
 Quoting: anonanon 4148733


Maybe the parents should have thought of that before they decided to spawn?

Yes, it's sad for the kids, but I refuse to make the parents lack of personal control be considered MY problem to pay for.

If you can't afford a kid. Don't fuck!
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The free/reduced lunch program is nothing new. My school system had it in the 60'-70's when I attended.
But 99% of the kids on it were truly from poor families and it was kind of an embarrassment for them to be on it.
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Last year my husband was unemployed for a number of months and did not qualify for unemployment so we signed up for the food stamp program until he could find a job. This is not something we rushed into as an upper middle class family, the idea of "food stamps" was not something we wanted to be a part of...it was really our last resort.

That said, as soon as we signed up for this, they put our children on the free lunch roles without our knowledge but when we found out, we were grateful for the extra financial relief. Then three months later, my husband found a good paying job and we immediately got off of the food stamp program! We notified our children's school that they were no longer to receive free lunches and sent lunch money with them every day after that.

The school refused to accept their lunch money and refused to take them off the free lunch program! I was irate! We no longer qualified and did not want our children to benefit from something that we could now afford to pay for when so many other children were in need. The school told us why they refused to take our children off...they get government grant money for every child that is on the free/reduced lunch program. For us to insist that they REMOVE our children from this list was, to them, taking money out of their pockets!

For the rest of the school year, we continued to send lunch money with our children and they continued to refuse it but at least our conscience is clear. This system is SO BROKE, it's not even funny!!!!!!
huffy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21231157

This is why the schools want students on FR lunches...no child left behind requires testing all students, and there is a percentage that has to be proficient. In the results there are smaller subgroups and if the subgroups fall below the mark, you lose. The categories include race-black, Asian, Pacific Islander, etc. then their are groups FR lunch and special ed. The economy has helped schools on their scores because families with children that normally excel are facing unemployment and qualify. FR lunches used to fail the tests, but now that all kinds of kids can be thrown in it's a gold mine. Teaching didn't improve, kids didnt learn more, but the school looks like they nailed it because FR scores went up. Schools aren't going to give that up. Yes, it's like cheating, kind of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20094015

This kind of thing definitely goes on.

Another one is with special ed. statistics. I know of a very brignt kid, gifted in most areas, that the school tried very very hard to force into special ed. All the way to the district superintendent they tried to force it. Guess they wanted to goose their stats for how their special ed. kids were doing.
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they should go back to FORCING everybody to eat FREE CHEESE!!!!

mmm tastes like FREEDOM!!!!1
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Total Students: 921
Free lunch eligible: 460
Reduced-price lunch eligible: 119


Amer Ind/
Alaskan Asian/
Pacific Islander Black Hispanic White
Students 0 0 0 0 921
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It is not just welfare families that qualify, It is, supposedly, based on income....not that there is much checking going on.

SO, families in the category of working poor definitely qualify.

Based on that so do almost all illegal immigrants and they are getting the free meals.

Certainly, there is a lot of wasted food. However, the free breakfast and lunch is the only food some students get.
 Quoting: anonanon 4148733


Maybe the parents should have thought of that before they decided to spawn?

Yes, it's sad for the kids, but I refuse to make the parents lack of personal control be considered MY problem to pay for.

If you can't afford a kid. Don't fuck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Look on the bright side. The kids are not considered to belong to those parents. They are considered to belong to the state, so just as much as any other kids including those who carry your genes, those kids are yours too!

So you should WANT to pay for their lunches! See it all makes sense.


GACK
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Total enrollment 1,366


Enrollment by Race/Ethnicity:
Amer Ind/ 1
Alaskan

Asian/
Pacific Islander 30

Black 693 332 271

Hispanic 332

White 271

Free lunch eligible: 857
Reduced-price lunch eligible: 156

Total lunches given out... 1013

Total blacks and hispanics... 1025


I have three other schools close to me
ALL Of them, has almost identical number Black / Hispanic and free lunches.

Wonder if that 'lil coinkidinky is just where I live....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


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You're going to love this.

I gave the school the money in one of those online pay accounts and they won't take it.

There is no way I qualify for even a reduced price lunch, but they are giving it to both kids for free.

Then I get calls from the school all summer saying that anyone is welcome for free breakfasts and lunches at the school all summer. Then they call saying they have a free wifi hotspot.

WTF?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12190923


WTF is right. Free meals even in the summer? That's nuts!
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anyone who thinks schools should have anything to do with food is too helpless and stupid to be alive...
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I was checking out the schools in my district on the National Center for School Statistics (link below) when I noticed that most of the schools in my area have students eligible for free or reduced lunches--as much as 75 percent of all students can receive free lunches! Now, to qualify for free or reduced lunches in my area, it's usually done by Welfare, who then notifies the schools that a student is eligible. I was quite shocked that the numbers were that high!

Use this link to find schools in your area: [link to nces.ed.gov]

Under "Enrollment Characteristics" it will give you the number of students that can or are receiving free lunches, as well as reduced lunches. It will also give the number of boys and girls that attend the school. For example, one school (Pre-K through Kindergarten) that I looked at here has:

Free lunch eligible: 130
Reduced-price lunch eligible: 22
Enrollment by Gender:
Male: 158
Female: 130
Total students: 288
Free/reduced lunches: 152

That's well over half of all students and that school only holds 2 grades--pre-k and kindergarten.

How does your district or schools compare? Is it that high as well?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3738979


used the link amd 98% of the kids in my local public school are eligable for free or reduced lunch.





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