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A Message For Believers and Unbelievers

 
ming

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Regardless of belief, a wonderful message Lisa.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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Regardless of belief, a wonderful message Lisa.
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Glad you liked it.

hf
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08/10/2012 10:33 AM
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this is complete bullshit the bible was written by jewish freemasons for the sole purpose of owning your soul in hell forever remember Christ was,is and will always be God and God is Our Lady,Christ and the Holy Ghost and maybe you guys should look up what 'resurection" really means to those people
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AMEN! Bless you!hf
 Quoting: abeliever


hf

If everybody in the world helped someone else, this world would be an amazing place.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Yes! And amazingly you don't need a god on your side to do and be good. That comes naturally to many of us. Hiding behind a false belief does not automatically assign to the believer the gifts of benevolence and decency. These are things taught to us (or not) when we are children. Both of my parents are atheists (in their 70's)' and they brought me up to be a caring, decent human being. I do not profess love and care for those I do not know as there is no sense in doing so. Such displays of love towards all your 'fellow' men is an empty sham and an attempt at advertising oneself as a 'goodguy'.
It is shoddy and it shows a lack of true character. Unfortunately religion, and christianity in particular has painted itself into a corner where it's adherent's are generally seen as do good posers, and not really good humans in the true sense of the word. :-)
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08/10/2012 10:41 AM
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what the fuck is wrong with you unbelievers? Think about it, does it really seem like it doesn't make sense to not believe in a god? Look at how suprisingly complez this world is and how lucky it is for us to even be here considering the other planets are all uninhabitable. Just think about that for a moment, do you really think there wouldn't be a god due to how complex and well designed this world and it's beings are?
Heres something from you non believers it doesn't make sense to not believe in a god, if there was no god and no heaven or hell people would be able to do what ever they please on this planet, so much evil would burst out of the blue without knowing that a hero or a savior in this case would be able to stop them all because you think they don't exist. Come on people, due to the really shitty times we are living, it makes sense to call to jesus's name and save us from this wretched world. Here are some flags to you non-believers:
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this is complete bullshit the bible was written by jewish freemasons for the sole purpose of owning your soul in hell forever remember Christ was,is and will always be God and God is Our Lady,Christ and the Holy Ghost and maybe you guys should look up what 'resurection" really means to those people
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I pray that someday you will find God and realize just how beautiful He is!
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It's interesting to me that those who disagree with the video's message don't appear able to simply disagree in a civil manner. They feel compelled to respond with anger and hatred and cursing.

Just like the people who demanded Jesus' death 2000 years ago.
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It's interesting to me that those who disagree with the video's message don't appear able to simply disagree in a civil manner. They feel compelled to respond with anger and hatred and cursing.

Just like the people who demanded Jesus' death 2000 years ago.
 Quoting: Doc Savage


I was very civil :-)
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It's interesting to me that those who disagree with the video's message don't appear able to simply disagree in a civil manner. They feel compelled to respond with anger and hatred and cursing.

Just like the people who demanded Jesus' death 2000 years ago.
 Quoting: Doc Savage


I was very civil :-)
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Yes you were! I should've said "nearly all those who disagree"...
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It's interesting to me that those who disagree with the video's message don't appear able to simply disagree in a civil manner. They feel compelled to respond with anger and hatred and cursing.

Just like the people who demanded Jesus' death 2000 years ago.
 Quoting: Doc Savage


I was very civil :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1559723


Yes you were! I should've said "nearly all those who disagree"...
 Quoting: Doc Savage


I think a lot of people are uncivil because nearly every single day there is a thread about this. Yes, we know all about John 3:16, no I don't particularly care about it.
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AMEN! Bless you!hf
 Quoting: abeliever




Yes! And amazingly you don't need a god on your side to do and be good. That comes naturally to many of us. Hiding behind a false belief does not automatically assign to the believer the gifts of benevolence and decency. These are things taught to us (or not) when we are children. Both of my parents are atheists (in their 70's)' and they brought me up to be a caring, decent human being. I do not profess love and care for those I do not know as there is no sense in doing so. Such displays of love towards all your 'fellow' men is an empty sham and an attempt at advertising oneself as a 'goodguy'.
It is shoddy and it shows a lack of true character. Unfortunately religion, and christianity in particular has painted itself into a corner where it's adherent's are generally seen as do good posers, and not really good humans in the true sense of the word. :-)
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The greatest sin of all is the unbelief of Jesus Christ
as Lord and Savior, and is the only sin that sins to hell.
Drunkards, murderers and thiefs don't go to hell because
of what they are but because of their unbelief of Jesus
as Lord and Savior. The question is do you love your loved
ones more than Satan hates your loved ones? THe battle goes
on in your mind, and dark spiritual forces have something
they use in everybodies mind they use to keep them trapped,
whether it be sexual abuse, adultry, habits you think you
can't break..etc..when you accept Jesus as savior and his
sacrafice on the cross for you atonement with God, your
body becomes the temple of God and Jesus lives in that
temple, (come as you are Jesus will help you clean that temple)
your sins are forgiven and you want others to know
about this amazing experience. This prayer goes to you:
Lord I bind those powers of darkness that are blinding this
person from the knowledge of salvation through Jesus Christ
and tear down strongholds in her life. I pray you will
bring her to the knowledge of the greatest
sin of all "unbelief in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior" that
she may come to understand the love and saving grace that you
want for her.That she will become a great witness for you and
bring many others including her family to you.
-Heed the warning or endure the mourning
Favor ain't fair
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08/10/2012 11:49 AM
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Yeah, yeah... I am a sinner, I am going to hell... Same ol', same ol'...
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08/10/2012 11:58 AM
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bump for Yah!
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bump for Yah!
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Yeah, yeah... I am a sinner, I am going to hell... Same ol', same ol'...
 Quoting: Psych


I truly don't know how you can say that, is it that trivial to you?
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Yeah, yeah... I am a sinner, I am going to hell... Same ol', same ol'...
 Quoting: Psych

Doesn't have to be that way.
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Lovely message Lisa lisa.

To the AC who thinks it is we who save ourselves, you are blatantly lying to people. The bible clearly tells us that it is God who calls us to him in faith and it is Jesus who saves, no one else.
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Lovely message Lisa lisa.

To the AC who thinks it is we who save ourselves, you are blatantly lying to people. The bible clearly tells us that it is God who calls us to him in faith and it is Jesus who saves, no one else.
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bump for Yah!
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hfhf
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you guys are making a huge mistake and tptb are laughing their asses off because they know they own you forever your mistake is you're seperating Jesus Christ and God there is no Jesus Christ and God JESUS CHRIST IS GOD tuen the and into a = Jesus Christ =God because they are the same thing
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Yeah, yeah... I am a sinner, I am going to hell... Same ol', same ol'...
 Quoting: Psych


There is no guarantee of tomorrow, friend. We have only today....don't be caught by the 'same ol' mentality. Why not seek the Lord Jesus while there is still time?
daughter in NYC
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show me one immortal and i will believe.........
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show me one immortal and i will believe.........
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Ask God to help you believe, ask Him to show you. This is something only God can help you with.
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show me one immortal and i will believe.........
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Blessed are they who do not see and YET BELIEVE!

Spirit is invisible...yet more real than the physicalhf
daughter in NYC
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yes there is a gurantee for your tomorrow and it's going to be in hell if you dont know that Christ is,was and will always be God and God is Our Lady,Christ and the Holy Ghost you guys your soul is owned by the freemasons seriously your only way back is get baptized and hold the catholic faith I'm telling you the truth
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yes there is a gurantee for your tomorrow and it's going to be in hell if you dont know that Christ is,was and will always be God and God is Our Lady,Christ and the Holy Ghost you guys your soul is owned by the freemasons seriously your only way back is get baptized and hold the catholic faith I'm telling you the truth
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God the Father is not "our lady". This is blasphemy.
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It is always the same pattern with those that deny God His due.

They are empty inside and have a deep seeded need for attention. They will spew hate with nothing to back it up and walk away with a false sense of security for a short time.

That is one of the major reasons that they are attracted so heavily to areas about God.

Knowing that they are wrong but they have honed their listening to their god without really knowing it.

They are lost like much of us were at one time.

Please treat them with patience and compassion while praying for them.
“If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.
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yes there is a gurantee for your tomorrow and it's going to be in hell if you dont know that Christ is,was and will always be God and God is Our Lady,Christ and the Holy Ghost you guys your soul is owned by the freemasons seriously your only way back is get baptized and hold the catholic faith I'm telling you the truth
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Sorry friend, Jesus himself said "No one comes to the Father but/except by ME"
daughter in NYC
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It is always the same pattern with those that deny God His due.

They are empty inside and have a deep seeded need for attention. They will spew hate with nothing to back it up and walk away with a false sense of security for a short time.

That is one of the major reasons that they are attracted so heavily to areas about God.

Knowing that they are wrong but they have honed their listening to their god without really knowing it.

They are lost like much of us were at one time.

Please treat them with patience and compassion while praying for them.
 Quoting: Passin' Through


Very good and excellent advise!

hf
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yes there is a gurantee for your tomorrow and it's going to be in hell if you dont know that Christ is,was and will always be God and God is Our Lady,Christ and the Holy Ghost you guys your soul is owned by the freemasons seriously your only way back is get baptized and hold the catholic faith I'm telling you the truth
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Good grief! You're so wrong
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show me one immortal and i will believe.........
 Quoting: Anonymous coward 263537524


Ask God to help you believe, ask Him to show you. This is something only God can help you with.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Been there and done that...and yes, I truly searched for the lord with all my heart but found it to all be an empty scam. And to say that unbelief in jc is what sends people to hell and not that they are murderers, rapists, thieves and maniacs is insane! What you are then saying is that one may murder if one accepts christ in the knowledge that you'll still make heaven. This is why your beliefs have zero credibility and why I will at all costs avoid it. :-)





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