What happened with Brent Miller from Horizon Project?

It was noted on another thread, by OP-6*6*6*, today. Miller set up a new web site called The Final Prophecies. There is a DVD for sale on that site, as well as a list of other radio interviews.

I bought the DVD, I have know idea where I put it. I heard them on C2C AM and I ordered it about 5 years ago. I remember there were a lot of scientists on there and they talked about 2012. They said that we were approaching the Galactic center and in the center was a stretched out speed bump that we will hit the will cause us to get off our axis and shift the poles causing earthquakes and tidal waves. That is pretty much all I remember. I listen to C2C a lot and have not heard them since.

I actually remember the DVD being very professionally done and interesting. It did seem like there were going to be more DVD's to follow. I felt like he kind of left you hanging, but it was very educational. Either he was onto something or full of B.S. It would be interesting to see what their group is doing now.

If the world was going to shit in December do you think he would still be selling DVDs?

he took the money and ran, is living it up in some secluded luxury resort with the mayan apocalypse Ian Xel Lundgren as his lover.


seriously though, before I realised he was totally full of it, I was interested in the expedition to the north pole in the hired Russian nuclear Icebreaker.(russian 2011 summmer, postponed from 2010 summer) he took ticket and donation fees
for 2010 , which he fabricated, told people it was postponed till 2011 , and charged for that also. $50, 000US he was asking to secure a ticket on it .

well the trip never existed and he had to go well into hiding before december this year for obvious reasons and apparently he ripped off quite few for the $50,000 through the american radio show called coast to coast.

I REMEMBER THIS FROM COAST TO COAST DURING BRENT'S INTERVIEW WITH GEORGE KNAPP. BRENT WAS MAKING REFERENCES TO AN ATOMIC CUTTER. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT THE "TRIP NEVER EXISTED?" CARE TO MAKE REFERENCES?

there is a show somewhere on you tube that unmasks many of the lies and exaggerations he created on the cds he sold.

I CHECKED YOUTUBE FOR THIS "SHOW" THAT UNMASKS THE LIES AND EXGGGERATION, AND IT TURNS OUT TO BE ANOTHER BRENT MILLER --AN AFRICAN AMERICAN-- WHO ALSO USES THE NAME GOSPEL JACKSON. YOU STILL HAVE TO QUALIFY THAT BRENT MILLER SPOKE LIES AND EXAGGERATIONS.

TO VERIFY MY CLAIMS, PLS. JUMP TO THE 7 MINUTES OF THIS VID:
[link to www.youtube.com]

he claimed, for one thing the earth stopped and restarted in ancient times and was recorded accurately by chinese astronomers, when in fact he was reciting an old chinese myth regarding the birth of royalty.

AS I REMEMBER HOW BRENT PUT IT, IT WAS THAT THE SUN SET THEN ROSE AGAIN ON THE SAME SAME DAY, IMPLYING THAT THE RISING AND SETTING EVENT OCCURED ONLY AT ONE POINT, WHICH IS WHERE THE SUN RISES NOW --THE EAST.

BELOW IS A REFERENCE I FOUND ON THE INTERNET:

"...the Chinese recorded a day with two dawns. At the time, the Chinese were meticulous record keepers of astronomy. However, the scientists tried to accommodate this with the theory that they witnessed a solar eclipse and that they didn't have the means at the time to know the difference. Now, I don't know about you, but even if I was as thick as a post, I think that I would see a difference between a solar eclipse and two sunrises." Here are two sources of a day with two dawns: Huai nan tse VI iv See Forke, "The World Conception of the Chinese" p. 86 Lu-Heng II, 176, See Forke, "The World Conception of the Chinese" p. 87 Where the sun rose in the West, "passed through three solar mansions."
( [link to www.biblestudymanuals.net] )

THE PECULIARITY BELOW MAY BE EXPLAINED BY THE SUN CHANGING ITS COURSE THROUGH A POLE SHIFT PROPOSED BY BRENT:

"The signs of the Chinese zodiac have the strange peculiarity of proceeding in a retrograde direction, that is, against the course of the sun."
( [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] )


seems he exploited as much of that type of thing as he could dig up, using conspiracy sites to aid his scam by talking it up and bouyed on by Ian Xel Ludgen's financial windfall regarding the 'mayan apocalypse ' he virtually single handendly contrived.

For those who ever saw Xel, he frequently talked up brent miller while stating he and his 'colleagues' who were in possession of the mayan codex Xel used to predict his highly detailed version of the end of the planet.

I TRIED TO CROSS-CHECK THIS AND WATCHED SOME VIDEOS OF IAN XEL LUNGOLD ON YOUTUBE. BUT IT WAS AGOOONIZING LISTENING TO THE GUY VIRTUALLY MAKING A MONOLOGUE, THAT I JUST STOPPED AND EXITED FROM THE PAGE. I WAS HOPING TO FIND A CONNECTION BETWEEN XEL AND BRENT, IF EVER THERE WERE ANY. BUT BY YOUR STATEMENT ABOVE, IT WAS MORE OF XEL NAME-DROPPING BRENT MILLER TO HIS AUDIENCE. IT'S A ONE WAY CONNECTION, YOU MIGHT SAY. XEL COULD HAVE JUST AS WELL TOLD ABOUT HIS CONNECTIONS TO THE POPE.


In reality, the holders of the codex in dresden, became aware of the scam and made efforts to expose both Xel and brent miller, who they had only brief communications and no working relationship with.

PERHAPS YOU CAN SHARE WHERE YOU GOT THIS INFO? IF YOU WERE ON A PERSONAL QUEST AND WENT AS FAR AS CORRESPONDING WITH THE HOLDERS OF THE CODEX, I WANT TO HEAR YOUR STORY. OR IF XEL SAID IT HIMSELF, PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO IT.

while brent sold cds, xel did the US lecture circuit for four years, with two a day for thirty people at $400 US a head,. Some of these are uploaded to youtube and it is kind of beautiful to watch the consumate conman exploit his always mainly female audience.

both these guys deserve congrats for using the internet and twisting ancient myths and modern conspiracy stories for financial gain.

one of their greatest advantages is the vast majority of those they stung are to embarrased to admit it.

While Lundgren added the mayan 'Xel' and tried to hide behind it later in his scam,

Ian Lundgren is a real name, with a past of failure as an academic, Brent Miller ,on the other hand, a common name shared by many , seems to have only appeared with the horizon project.

looks like he really went to some effort presenting twisted versions of various cultural curiosities of old, as well as fabricating data from the modern era ,and cashed in big time.

and in the minds of some 'conspiracists' they will always be hiding from the ptb, who they exposed, even after they said the world was going to end.

SEE HERE, I AM JUST AS BENT AS GETTING DOWN TO THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER AS, MAYBE, YOU. I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I EVEN HAVE TO DOUBT YOUR EVERY WORD. BECAUSE IF TRUE THAT BRENT DID CON A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEN PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO BE CONNED AGAIN, BEGINNING WITH VERIFYING EVERY INFO YOU GAVE.

I AM A RATIONAL MAN, NOT QUICKLY GIVING INTO THE SPECTACULAR AND FANTASTIC -SENSATIONALISM! FROM THE THINGS BRENT SHARED ABOUT THE HORIZON PROJECT AND ITS DISCOVERIES, THEY MADE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME THAT I CONCLUDE BRENT MILLER IS THE REAL DEAL --UNLESS, AGAIN, SOMEBODY OUT THERE SAYS OTHERWISE AND PROVIDES CONVINCING PROOF.

I too, am waiting for Miller to show. I still believe the information.

that's what i mean. in your case, you ended up buying their DVD and that was the end of it.

i still believe that brent miller and his horizon project is legit. but he has to come out now; otherwise, it will appear to be an elaborate well-thought hoax.

this brent miller, jr. selling his FINAL PROPHECIES dvds, i think for one, is a fake.

DON'T BUY THE FINAL PROPHECIES DVDs, people. that is not brent miller from the horizon project.

NOTICE "THE HORIZON PROJECT" ISN'T EVEN MENTIONED IN THE RE-DIRECTED SITE SELLING THE FINAL PROPHECIES DVDs, yet there is a brent miller, jr. being referred there to give a semblance of legitimacy to the whole fraudulent marketing scam?

There is something very fishy going on. Brent Miller came across as plausible, balanced and scientific in his approach. Now on the Horizon Project we are subjected to the tired old stuff of evangelistic lecturing. What I wanted to hear was more of the science. Does not sound like the man I heard back in April. I don't believe he would drop out of sight either. Something is wrong? can anyone legitimate explain? It doesn't fool me pal.

PS Just as a hint, as all three have been incorrect in the past,


C. Brown
C. High
E. Dames

are all expecting 2013 to be the year, and expecting something to happen in the Spring 2013 timeframe.


IF ISON ends up being a big deal, than I will pay attention as it would be the 'best bet' for Nostradamous' Great Comet,

and Mother Shipton too if her words haven't been mangled all out of proportion.


Out of the three forementioned Major Dames HAS had several very big and spectacular hits and anyone who says he hasn't either hasn't been paying attention, is a liar, or is a fool.

Thanks to all for the good hints. This year has begun with a high level of EQ and extreme weather, so these weird times seem to be building up.