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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11132818 ![]() 08/15/2012 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants seems it takes a woman to grow a pair. Too bad nobody in uniform has a set. You know, once the nation is destroyed, you can forget getting paid, your bennies and everything you hoped for, and you will be seen as the dickless step n fetchits that you are |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21949730 ![]() 08/15/2012 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants . ... I used to think highly of Jan ... . ... but she buckled under and vetoed the will of the legislature regarding O's qualifications to run again ... . ... she'll cave ... when the WH tells her to ... . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22025063 ![]() 08/15/2012 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants I absolutely love my state of residence! Jan may be an ugly bitch... but she is a real life political bulldog! That means now in AZ: No ID for criminals. No ACCESS for criminals (state Medicare). No instate tuition for criminals (not that we ever allowed for it). No welfare/food stamps for criminals (I hope... cut off the meal ticket and they leave in droves). And I hope all this expands into the real big deal in this state: NO MORE FREE SCHOOLING FOR THE CHILDREN OF CRIMINALS!!! The fucking criminals don't even deserve a free bus pass! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 744650 ![]() 08/15/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants PHOENIX - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed an executive order directing state agencies to deny driver's licenses and other public benefits to young illegal immigrants who obtain work authorizations under a new Obama administration program. Quoting: Laura Bow After the order was issued, supporters of the program and the DREAM Act took to the streets of Phoenix in protest. Video from Air15 showed the protesters carrying signs and walking down Central Avenue toward the State Capitol. ... Brewer's order says the program's federal paperwork doesn't confer lawful status on illegal immigrants and won't entitle them to Arizona public benefits. More [link to www.abc15.com] ![]() |
Mr. Miracle User ID: 22004491 ![]() 08/15/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants Actually, Arizona law already addressed this. Brewer, for all her admirable gumption, did not change anything. Her "Executive Order" simply clarified that the law already stated that non-citizens were not eligible for any public benefits, nor can they get a license. So, really, in Arizona, nothing is changed. An illegal can not get any kind of job that requires a driver's license, nor any kind of welfare. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22025063 ![]() 08/15/2012 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants Actually, Arizona law already addressed this. Brewer, for all her admirable gumption, did not change anything. Her "Executive Order" simply clarified that the law already stated that non-citizens were not eligible for any public benefits, nor can they get a license. So, really, in Arizona, nothing is changed. An illegal can not get any kind of job that requires a driver's license, nor any kind of welfare. Quoting: Mr. Miracle I disagree... the new amnesty Oshithead just allowed for, you know, the one which bypasses federal law so he can play King as opposed to serving as President... would allow for criminals to all of a sudden become legitimate visa holders. As such, they will be holding valid federal visas and thus eligible for state benifits... but not in AZ... as Jan is seeing to it to not recognize the work visas as valid. Also, criminals currently can get ACCESS, attend school, get state welfare and EBT cards... and with this little move... Jan is seeing to it that anyone who thinks thy can get over on America for another two years via an illegally granted visa can't do so in AZ. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21990806 ![]() 08/15/2012 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants I do think she has her heart in the right place, but I'd do it a little differently. I'd allow driver's licenses that were obviously different, and stated "ILLEGAL ALIEN" at the top, over where it says "driver license". All benefits from the state would be refused with this document, and all info from the alien would be entered in a state database, including one or more photos. The alien would be allowed to drive on public highways, with proper insurance and registration of course, but the car would be flagged in the state database. If it was necessary to rule the alien in or out as a suspect in a particular crime, it could be done very easily. The flagging of the license as "illegal alien" would be sufficiently defamatory to limit the misuse of the license as ID. It should be on the license that it is invalid as ID and not to be used for anything but driving. By doing this, we'd know a bit more about who was driving around, and where. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1578696 ![]() 08/15/2012 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants I do think she has her heart in the right place, but I'd do it a little differently. I'd allow driver's licenses that were obviously different, and stated "ILLEGAL ALIEN" at the top, over where it says "driver license". All benefits from the state would be refused with this document, and all info from the alien would be entered in a state database, including one or more photos. The alien would be allowed to drive on public highways, with proper insurance and registration of course, but the car would be flagged in the state database. If it was necessary to rule the alien in or out as a suspect in a particular crime, it could be done very easily. The flagging of the license as "illegal alien" would be sufficiently defamatory to limit the misuse of the license as ID. It should be on the license that it is invalid as ID and not to be used for anything but driving. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21990806 By doing this, we'd know a bit more about who was driving around, and where. Why issue anything to an "illegal alien". I guess that word "illegal" means nothing anymore. |
Mr. Miracle User ID: 22004491 ![]() 08/15/2012 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants Actually, Arizona law already addressed this. Brewer, for all her admirable gumption, did not change anything. Her "Executive Order" simply clarified that the law already stated that non-citizens were not eligible for any public benefits, nor can they get a license. So, really, in Arizona, nothing is changed. An illegal can not get any kind of job that requires a driver's license, nor any kind of welfare. Quoting: Mr. Miracle I disagree... the new amnesty Oshithead just allowed for, you know, the one which bypasses federal law so he can play King as opposed to serving as President... would allow for criminals to all of a sudden become legitimate visa holders. As such, they will be holding valid federal visas and thus eligible for state benifits... but not in AZ... as Jan is seeing to it to not recognize the work visas as valid. Also, criminals currently can get ACCESS, attend school, get state welfare and EBT cards... and with this little move... Jan is seeing to it that anyone who thinks thy can get over on America for another two years via an illegally granted visa can't do so in AZ. I respectfully disagree with you. See this: [link to ktar.com] "In an executive order, Brewer said she was reaffirming the intent of current Arizona law denying taxpayer-funded public benefits and state identification to illegal immigrants." and "In the past decade, Arizona voters twice approved laws denying publicly funded services, such as in-state resident university tuition rates, to illegal immigrants unless mandated by the federal government." The problem is that: 1. Illegal immigrants and their advocates will now believe the myth that Sotero has given them blanket amnesty, and act as such. This will lead to protests and lawsuits when they don't get what they expect and feel they are entitled to. 2. Vilification of Brewer and any that stand with her, as the race card is once again trotted out. Her order does nothing at all, except remind all state agencies that the law is already established, limiting any use of public benefits for illegals. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. |
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RD47 User ID: 21442021 ![]() 08/15/2012 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants It's not her business to check for immigrants Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21531349 My guess is that few special forces units remove her from office I'll be happy with that Watch this video to the end, that's your reality at the very ending. 'Going Down in Flames' [link to www.youtube.com] ![]() |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22061577 ![]() 08/16/2012 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants I thought you hated executive orders... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22061577 Oh wait, we get it. You LOVE them if done by the people you shill for. Got it. 2 words...STATE'S RIGHTS. Now...who's the shill? And what does "state's rights" have to do with the question of executive orders. If you believe they are bad, and the person who uses them are creating tyranny, then it is a state-made tyranny when it bypasses the legislature of the state, right? See -- you continue to shill. |
Ollo User ID: 22062509 ![]() 08/16/2012 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Arizona gives Obama the finger! Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants I thought you hated executive orders... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22061577 Oh wait, we get it. You LOVE them if done by the people you shill for. Got it. 2 words...STATE'S RIGHTS. Now...who's the shill? And what does "state's rights" have to do with the question of executive orders. If you believe they are bad, and the person who uses them are creating tyranny, then it is a state-made tyranny when it bypasses the legislature of the state, right? See -- you continue to shill. Nope. Not the same. The governor and any leader of a state is directly elected by the people. It's direct representation. The president is not directly elected- that's why we have a republic and not a democracy. |