My parents secretive past...

Hey Scar, this doesn't have anything to do with this thread but I was wondering if you knew what happened to the big booty thread. Did it get deleted?

Another delusional Caucasian.

I would start with ignoring any mk stuff
only so much time in our lives

get his dd214/discharge papers
research the persons he worked with

many pilots had high clearences due to the nature of their job

research activities after the war

i wish you well on your quest to find info, but I can say from personal experience, still hold them (parents) in your heart with love. info will be hard to find, and many dead ends await
DO NOT get dispondent, obsessive or angry, as this then pushes you away from those that are living that do love you

as a personal note, I will be making a trip this year to pick up stuff that may help me in my quest

but the most important, understand, if you are "unique" your task at hand may not have anything to do with the past history, more your influence on the future

and, seriously, connect with god, as this IMHO has to do with good and evil

maybe I am your twin....lol
actually I am sagatarius(sp?) that changed to opheus(sp?)

serpent slayer at your service

love and peace

I was wondering if dickheads like you come on this board only to stir up racial shit. It seems like every other thread there is some asshole trying to insert race into stuff where it is irrelevant.

so what are you? A realistic African? Geez... delusions would have assumed identities. My problem is the lack of the ability for even a thin a thing as a delusion.

and your threads are impressive as a real thinker

you, my friend, are a judgemental asshole, with no where to talk

maybe the background check was right

it does seem to be a recent plague

Take my word for it, this person is most likely White and pretending to be non-white for the purpose of turning this thread racial. Don't fall for it.

Yes, indeed.

well then...wonder twin powers activated...lol thanks for your help. I realize it's a journey, moreover an adventure! My philosophy of life is... "Never say Never" another is my signature on here. I never get despondent...luckily my ex would tell you I am a freakin, optimist, he was a realist. So I divorced him...kidding it was bigger than that but being optimistic is important this side of life. GOD is in my life and always has been. Im special without all the missing pieces...it would just be good to know.

twas there last i looked...ill check. GONE!!! I'll be danged! I hope it wasn't me. heh... but couldn't be. I'm still here... Better icksnay on the initytray ikday comments....roflmao

Oh no! I've attached myself to the scene of the "Big Booty" thread.... it wasn't me! (thats a song huh?)

Last Edited by Divergent on 08/19/2012 12:36 AM

The nuttiness is from thinking that something special happened around your birth, and that there's a conspiracy around it.

funny, thats good

I have been on this info quest for 2 years now, very little help

my sister (similar as our situation) spend ~$300 on a private det and has stuff in 3-5 days

I am just frugal (read broke as ....well you get it)
plus prefer as few as possible involved as possible

sounds like your head is on straight, and that is good
good luck, good life, and good night

(by the way, I am still a little freaked out as to our similarities in the history stuff)

dr

They aren't REAL!!! RIPOFFS!!!??? oh noes! How will I ever cope? Joking...I actually never put creed to it except that things started adding up. The psychic thing was in the late eighties...so it wasn't on my radar, just another piece.

funny thing is...I NEVER put the word "SPECIAL" into this....the others who didn't like my post did. like yourself. I only want normalcy. Doesn't seem possible though even in the negative vernacular. Try a moment in my shoes...bet you can't because a life without these things can never be imagined as you've never been there. There are those of us who cling to the "special" things, as you like to call them, because it's all we have.

If I ever get back to the east coast i'm going to hire a PI. I think it may be the only way. But he's going to have to be a specialist who can go quite deep i think. Even when I contact the State directly, they tell me there is no info even non-identifying. I think tptb might need to start letting a few details out because dead ends make you even more curious.

I know something about all these subjects from personal experience. just a couple of things --

1) The baby market idea, while possible, is a stretch. Adoptive parents have a thousand and one reasons to keep things secret.

2) That being said, your unusual characteristics and experiences might indicate something else, such as MK ultra / Monarch experimentation.

3) Have you had DNA testing? I did, and I have these odd mutations I don't even want to talk about or know more about.

In any case, I think the more you put this stuff behind you and realize that you are your own person, regardless of the circumstances that brought you into existence, the better. It's your life now, claim it, renounce the past and whatever sick people influenced it, and take what is yours, which is your life and your own identity.

my feelings are this...if birth wasn't important to GOD then he wouldn't have inspired the books of the bible in which all the bloodlines are kept....begat,begat,begat...

that's a nice thought...still it gives pause when my children/grandchildren eventually turn up with problems we never saw coming but could have. Going to the doctors these days your history is all important. I have none. Oh well..

I do live it to the fullest...every day. I am a successful business person, with many friends who are like a family to me. Still no story is as good with out all of it.

i think ill do the dna tests.

Last Edited by Divergent on 08/19/2012 01:07 AM

Sounds good. You know, the DNA tests might tell you something, yet, does it matter now? I think of that movie Gattaca, what does the sequence really matter? What matters is you and your own choices.

That being said, checking your DNA for any predisposition to certain diseases is not a bad idea. You could get treatment ahead of time if (God forbid) there are any troubles, and you might be able to take steps to prevent it from being transmitted to your own children if you have any.

You one of those Archons maybe? High cheek bones you have?

pretty high... but how do we know what they look like?

I understand this...and I did post it in the appropriate forum...CONSPIRACY THEORISTS? LUNATIC FRINGE? didn't I....??? What are you here for if not for Conspiracy theories?

First off I should say I am an adoptive parent, so understand if your parents wanted to keep secrets. My child's birth parents were drug addicts and alcohol dependant. I'd rather my child hate me for keeping her birth parents a secret rather than ever have her get tangled up with them. Just a mother's feelings here.

Also, I have tried tracing my mother's roots and come up blank at my grandfather. I found out two years ago this is because my grandfather changed his name and was not truthful about his place of birth.

This was all learned from my grandfather's - brother's daughter in law. Her husband had just passed away and she purged the secrets his father told to him and he to her. She produced a family bible that has been kept out of the site of everyone for a very long time. My grandfather and his brother took it with them when they ran away a long time ago.

One of the reasons he was not truthful was that his mother was a full blooded Iroquois. Back in their time it was an embarassment to have Native American Ancestery back then - such a shame. The other was because he and his brother ran away from home. My grandfather was only 10 or so. His brother was 15.

As well, when my grandfather and then my grandmother passed away, my mother found my grandfather's birth certificate that was most likely a copy of the original. His Mother's name was a single Native American name. Father was unknown. His birthplace was listed as unknown also or something related. My mother believes he had his name legally changed when he became an adult, to the name he had been using since he had run away and this was a replacement birth certificate.

The truth is, it is very possible, your families history does not exist because it is fabricated. Even though I know my grandfather's original name is now known, I still cannot trace him. Some people's information was never recorded and it is that simple.

Are you sure you want to find relatives?

Mine suck and I´d much rather not know who they are. Let alone have to deal with them!

Hi Op
I kinda know what your going through, as my dad was also adopted, and always felt very out of place.

He searched for years to find his biological family, and coincidently one year he came across someone who thought they knew who his mother was. I was just a kid so I don't know the details of how that came to be at all, since he had no details or names to go on.

The man that adopted him was sorta a mafia type dude. Wealthy man who ended up literally betting the farm in one of his dealings, and lost it. Shortly after, he died.
Since he was the one that brought my dad home, once he died, my dad had no one else that cared. His "mom" shipped him off to New York to stay with "relatives" he'd never met.

He ended up finding out he was a black market baby. We found his real mother, but she wouldn't give us any information on his real father. They didn't stay together.

My dad died recently, never knowing who his parents really were. I'm sure he knows now, but it created alot of problems for our family because of health issues for one.
Epilepsy runs through his mother's side very strongly, and continues even to my own daughter.

I can remember several phone calls where my dad just felt lost out in this big world alone, and seemed as if it just instantly hit him, each time he'd call.

He had no "place", and couldn't find it within the family he created because he didn't feel as if he was a whole person to begin with.

So, Op...I hope you find what you're looking for, and feel satisfied in the end with your results.
Everyone deserves to know from where they come.

Yes, having the family medical history ready might give an indication as to what to look out for. But... whatever is coming is coming.

Just play it safe: life as healthy as you can. And don´t worry about it. This will help more than knowing the family´s med history.

I think you're just seeking attention maybe to feel special.

I would find a good lawyer in the state where you were born or adopted. (They may well be separate states.) Make sure the lawyer has contacts with a top notch Private Detective. It will cost you a few hundred to a few thousand dollars. They'll pry the records open even if it takes a court order to do so. Finding your bio-parents won't be difficult. At least in term of "WHO" they are. Where the are now may take a bit longer.

Prepare yourself for seriously painful possibilities. Maybe you were the product of a rape, or incest? Maybe a run-away marriage that was annulled by the parents after their daughter was pregnant. (Used to happen - you didn't state your age...but that kind of thing was common in the 50's and 60's.)

You could be a black market baby. Bought and sold. I was! And it really didn't matter to me. But I've known other adoptees that were devastated by the fact that their birth mother or father sold them one way or another.

Find a good lawyer and get the records opened legally. It can be done. Then a private detective can probably find you mother (and maybe father if known) providing they're both living, in a matter of days or even less if they're both in the US and legal citizens, etc.

Don't put too much stock into the psychics. They're usually expert at reading what you feel and exploring those issues. Could you be a "hybrid" or "star-child?" Maybe. But it's a long shot. Don't let that high IQ take you down improbable paths until you've eliminated the more possible paths.

There is clearly something your adoptive parents are hiding or don't want to know. It could be anything. Remember, having a baby outside of a marriage was a huge shameful thing for any woman to go thru. Most didn't dare show their faces in public during a pregnancy and often moved and changed their names and became an "imaginary" respectable Widow after the baby was born if they were keeping it.

Adoption was common back in the 1950's and 60's and 70's. Abortions were not easily available - illegal in may states, and many women could not or would not terminate a pregnancy even if it meant shame and disgrace on them for many years!

Get a good lawyer and force the issue. But be prepared for whatever you find. You may have nothing in common with the birth parents except some DNA. Do not expect to feel anything in particular. Love, parental affection, etc., would have formed years ago but never had a chance to do so. So you may be quite non-plussed when you do meet your birth parents. Go into meeting them with NO expectations for anything other than knowing the truth. If a friendship or a relationship develops - then great. And it does not, that's okay, too. You've done well so far without them and you will continue to do so.

I'll say a prayer for you. The doors will open when you are ready and wiling to have them open. Pray about it, too. It couldn't hurt!

I'll have to say, no, she's not attention seeking, just seeking. I'm in the same boat myself, adopted with no access to my birth records. It's difficult when you know nothing of your heritage... those with known parents can't even begin to fathom what they take for granted.