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Auckland New Zealand Unprepared for Volcanic Eruption under the city

 
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Auckland New Zealand Unprepared for Volcanic Eruption under the city
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Aucklanders may get only a day or two warning of a volcanic eruption and will only know hours before where it will explode on the surface, a scientific paper says.

The 1.4 million people living on the Auckland Volcanic Field (AVF) make too much noise for existing instruments to hear what is coming up from below.

"This means that localisation of a future eruption site is only likely to occur within a few hours or days of an eruption," the paper in the Journal of Remote Sensing of Environment said.

Each new vent in a place like Auckland will occur at a new location, rather than an existing volcano, creating uncertainty over where it will hit.

The scientists said they have used a variety of devices and models to explore in a new way the lava flows of the 360sqkm AVF, which holds 50 monogenetic volcanoes that is single vents that erupt in one go. Polygenetic volcanoes such as Ruapehu erupt from the same craters regularly.

They said the city, especially south Auckland, will probably suffer more damage from lava flows than the early stages of the eruption.

"The City of Auckland is highly susceptible to lava flows, which are likely to travel further, and be potentially more destructive to infrastructure over longer periods....

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Aucklanders may get only a day or two warning of a volcanic eruption and will only know hours before where it will explode on the surface, a scientific paper says.

The 1.4 million people living on the Auckland Volcanic Field (AVF) make too much noise for existing instruments to hear what is coming up from below.

"This means that localisation of a future eruption site is only likely to occur within a few hours or days of an eruption," the paper in the Journal of Remote Sensing of Environment said.

Each new vent in a place like Auckland will occur at a new location, rather than an existing volcano, creating uncertainty over where it will hit.

The scientists said they have used a variety of devices and models to explore in a new way the lava flows of the 360sqkm AVF, which holds 50 monogenetic volcanoes that is single vents that erupt in one go. Polygenetic volcanoes such as Ruapehu erupt from the same craters regularly.

They said the city, especially south Auckland, will probably suffer more damage from lava flows than the early stages of the eruption.

"The City of Auckland is highly susceptible to lava flows, which are likely to travel further, and be potentially more destructive to infrastructure over longer periods....

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 Quoting: Bob the Ukrainian 3767410


So you guys built a whole city on an active/maybe dormant but not extinct volcano. Why?
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Aucklanders may get only a day or two warning of a volcanic eruption and will only know hours before where it will explode on the surface, a scientific paper says.

The 1.4 million people living on the Auckland Volcanic Field (AVF) make too much noise for existing instruments to hear what is coming up from below.

"This means that localisation of a future eruption site is only likely to occur within a few hours or days of an eruption," the paper in the Journal of Remote Sensing of Environment said.

Each new vent in a place like Auckland will occur at a new location, rather than an existing volcano, creating uncertainty over where it will hit.

The scientists said they have used a variety of devices and models to explore in a new way the lava flows of the 360sqkm AVF, which holds 50 monogenetic volcanoes that is single vents that erupt in one go. Polygenetic volcanoes such as Ruapehu erupt from the same craters regularly.

They said the city, especially south Auckland, will probably suffer more damage from lava flows than the early stages of the eruption.

"The City of Auckland is highly susceptible to lava flows, which are likely to travel further, and be potentially more destructive to infrastructure over longer periods....

[link to www.stuff.co.nz]


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Bob the Ukrainian 3767410


THIS IS COMPLETELY DISTURBING! Hope it does NOT happen!
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Aucklanders may get only a day or two warning of a volcanic eruption and will only know hours before where it will explode on the surface, a scientific paper says.

The 1.4 million people living on the Auckland Volcanic Field (AVF) make too much noise for existing instruments to hear what is coming up from below.

"This means that localisation of a future eruption site is only likely to occur within a few hours or days of an eruption," the paper in the Journal of Remote Sensing of Environment said.

Each new vent in a place like Auckland will occur at a new location, rather than an existing volcano, creating uncertainty over where it will hit.

The scientists said they have used a variety of devices and models to explore in a new way the lava flows of the 360sqkm AVF, which holds 50 monogenetic volcanoes that is single vents that erupt in one go. Polygenetic volcanoes such as Ruapehu erupt from the same craters regularly.

They said the city, especially south Auckland, will probably suffer more damage from lava flows than the early stages of the eruption.

"The City of Auckland is highly susceptible to lava flows, which are likely to travel further, and be potentially more destructive to infrastructure over longer periods....

[link to www.stuff.co.nz]


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Bob the Ukrainian 3767410


THIS IS COMPLETELY DISTURBING! Hope it does NOT happen!
 Quoting: PamelaTime


+1 but still shocked things got built there.
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yes you are so right! but that is par for the course ya know?
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Aucklanders may get only a day or two warning of a volcanic eruption and will only know hours before where it will explode on the surface, a scientific paper says.

The 1.4 million people living on the Auckland Volcanic Field (AVF) make too much noise for existing instruments to hear what is coming up from below.

"This means that localisation of a future eruption site is only likely to occur within a few hours or days of an eruption," the paper in the Journal of Remote Sensing of Environment said.

Each new vent in a place like Auckland will occur at a new location, rather than an existing volcano, creating uncertainty over where it will hit.

The scientists said they have used a variety of devices and models to explore in a new way the lava flows of the 360sqkm AVF, which holds 50 monogenetic volcanoes that is single vents that erupt in one go. Polygenetic volcanoes such as Ruapehu erupt from the same craters regularly.

They said the city, especially south Auckland, will probably suffer more damage from lava flows than the early stages of the eruption.

"The City of Auckland is highly susceptible to lava flows, which are likely to travel further, and be potentially more destructive to infrastructure over longer periods....

[link to www.stuff.co.nz]


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Bob the Ukrainian 3767410


So you guys built a whole city on an active/maybe dormant but not extinct volcano. Why?
 Quoting: alexisj9


19thC volcanology probably wasn't that advanced, and so no threat would've be seen at the time the city was initially settled.

Most of NZ is seismically active anyway. Wellington's on a major faultline and suffered a major quake in the 1850s. Christchurch isn't on a major faultline, but that didn't stop a couple of serious quakes from striking there, obviously. Napier was largely destroyed by an earthquake in 1931. Nowhere in NZ is a particularly 'safe' place to build a city.

As far as for choosing to locate a city there: at the time it was mostly because Auckland offers two excellent harbours (one on each side for the Pacific Ocean and Tasman Sea). And it's warm!
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Re: Auckland New Zealand Unprepared for Volcanic Eruption under the city
I was watching a really bad horror movie filmed there the other night. It does seem gorgeous if it was indeed being filmed in Auckland. Mindblowing beauty. This is probably why they build there.
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I was watching a really bad horror movie filmed there the other night. It does seem gorgeous if it was indeed being filmed in Auckland. Mindblowing beauty. This is probably why they build there.
 Quoting: PamelaTime


What was the film?
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I was watching a really bad horror movie filmed there the other night. It does seem gorgeous if it was indeed being filmed in Auckland. Mindblowing beauty. This is probably why they build there.
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What was the film?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1659250


Can't remember...google auckland horror movie... I'd do it for you but I have to go to bed it's 430 in the morn :)
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Re: Auckland New Zealand Unprepared for Volcanic Eruption under the city
Excuse me OP but please can you tell me of a any city in the world that is prepared for a volcanic eruption?
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Re: Auckland New Zealand Unprepared for Volcanic Eruption under the city
Hope it don't happen. Geeze another million or more of you over here.

Won't happen. It's all good bra. eh. ;)
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bump
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Re: Auckland New Zealand Unprepared for Volcanic Eruption under the city
so, how do you prepare for a volcanic eruption right underneath you then?

lagging?
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The 1.4 million people living on the Auckland Volcanic Field (AVF) make too much noise for existing instruments to hear what is coming up from below.

rofl

what a complete sack of cack!
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Re: Auckland New Zealand Unprepared for Volcanic Eruption under the city
I was watching a really bad horror movie filmed there the other night. It does seem gorgeous if it was indeed being filmed in Auckland. Mindblowing beauty. This is probably why they build there.
 Quoting: PamelaTime


What was the film?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1659250


Can't remember...google auckland horror movie... I'd do it for you but I have to go to bed it's 430 in the morn :)
 Quoting: PamelaTime


Probably 'The Devil's Rock', which was actually shot in Wellington.

Can't think of any NZ made horror films made in Auckland in the last few years.

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The 1.4 million people living on the Auckland Volcanic Field (AVF) make too much noise for existing instruments to hear what is coming up from below.

rofl

what a complete sack of cack!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22367337


No I'd say that is true, as the measurements taken at volcanoes for clue of eruption are micro tremors.
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The 1.4 million people living on the Auckland Volcanic Field (AVF) make too much noise for existing instruments to hear what is coming up from below.

rofl

what a complete sack of cack!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22367337


No I'd say that is true, as the measurements taken at volcanoes for clue of eruption are micro tremors.
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OK alex, whatever

you do realise, even if that WAS true, which it isn't, that those 1.4 million people, or the vast majority of them anyway, sleep every night?

or does the volcano nap for 8 hours every night too?
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Re: Auckland New Zealand Unprepared for Volcanic Eruption under the city
the tongariro volcano eruption caught them completely unawares

likewise Auckland could blow any minute and no-one would see it coming
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The 1.4 million people living on the Auckland Volcanic Field (AVF) make too much noise for existing instruments to hear what is coming up from below.

rofl

what a complete sack of cack!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22367337


No I'd say that is true, as the measurements taken at volcanoes for clue of eruption are micro tremors.
 Quoting: alexisj9


OK alex, whatever

you do realise, even if that WAS true, which it isn't, that those 1.4 million people, or the vast majority of them anyway, sleep every night?

or does the volcano nap for 8 hours every night too?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22367337


I do except for the night workers no where there's a city is quite ever, but it is a lot quieter at night time. Also check out some tremor graphs from volcanoes, Iceland one are a good place to look, even wind can interfere with the signals, and when there are people walking around you can see there noise in them.

Last Edited by alexisj9 on 08/23/2012 09:31 AM
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Re: Auckland New Zealand Unprepared for Volcanic Eruption under the city
the tongariro volcano eruption caught them completely unawares

likewise Auckland could blow any minute and no-one would see it coming
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There was plenty of seismic activity prior to the Tongariro eruption. Tongariro has been active in the recent geologic past, whereas the Auckland volcanic field has been dormant for many thousands of years.

I'm sure if seismic activity started happening under Auckland, precautions would be taken to minimise danger from a potential eruption.

As it is, there isn't any signs at all that volcanic activity is likely to start again in that area. Those volcanoes show every sign of remaining dormant for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Auckland New Zealand Unprepared for Volcanic Eruption under the city
the tongariro volcano eruption caught them completely unawares

likewise Auckland could blow any minute and no-one would see it coming
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22452566


There was plenty of seismic activity prior to the Tongariro eruption. Tongariro has been active in the recent geologic past, whereas the Auckland volcanic field has been dormant for many thousands of years.

I'm sure if seismic activity started happening under Auckland, precautions would be taken to minimise danger from a potential eruption.

As it is, there isn't any signs at all that volcanic activity is likely to start again in that area. Those volcanoes show every sign of remaining dormant for the foreseeable future.
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Thanks moron.

Just like the other "things that could never happen" that HAVE happened this year.

Fucking shill

PREPARE, PEOPLE OF AUCKLAND!!!!!!!
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The 1.4 million people living on the Auckland Volcanic Field (AVF) make too much noise for existing instruments to hear what is coming up from below.

rofl

what a complete sack of cack!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22367337


No I'd say that is true, as the measurements taken at volcanoes for clue of eruption are micro tremors.
 Quoting: alexisj9


OK alex, whatever

you do realise, even if that WAS true, which it isn't, that those 1.4 million people, or the vast majority of them anyway, sleep every night?

or does the volcano nap for 8 hours every night too?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22367337


I do except for the night workers no where there's a city is quite ever, but it is a lot quieter at night time. Also check out some tremor graphs from volcanoes, Iceland one are a good place to look, even wind can interfere with the signals, and when there are people walking around you can see there noise in them.
 Quoting: alexisj9


well, going by that, why don't we just throw ALL seismic instruments in the bin, eh?

what's the point?

Joe 6 pack taking a sneaky nap on his night shift will drown out all the signals!
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Re: Auckland New Zealand Unprepared for Volcanic Eruption under the city
the tongariro volcano eruption caught them completely unawares

likewise Auckland could blow any minute and no-one would see it coming
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22452566


There was plenty of seismic activity prior to the Tongariro eruption. Tongariro has been active in the recent geologic past, whereas the Auckland volcanic field has been dormant for many thousands of years.

I'm sure if seismic activity started happening under Auckland, precautions would be taken to minimise danger from a potential eruption.

As it is, there isn't any signs at all that volcanic activity is likely to start again in that area. Those volcanoes show every sign of remaining dormant for the foreseeable future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22329382


Thanks moron.

Just like the other "things that could never happen" that HAVE happened this year.

Fucking shill

PREPARE, PEOPLE OF AUCKLAND!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22425278


Brilliant. Another doomtard spreading unnecessary anxiety and fear. We should also be prepared for asteroid strikes, of course. Because they've been known to happen.

Could you elucidate on these "things that could never happen" that have happened?





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