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I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?

 
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I'm leaning towards a Ruger mini-14 tactical, or a 10/22 rifle and a .22 pistol. Not confident about the stopping power of the .22, but my accuracy is pinpoint. What do my fellow gun enthusiasts recommend?
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$700 -- do NOT buy a pistol. Buy a long gun. Get a semi-automatic rifle. .22 cal will not stop someone but many people will have them so ammo should be abundant when TSHTF. A 30-06 will stop anybody but the ammo runs about $1.50 a round. You will have problems getting ammo after TSHTF, I think. Get a NATO-round-shooting semi-automatic rifle, e.g., a 5.56m weapon, e.g., an M4. There will be plenty of NATO rounds for the picking when TSHTF, I think, depending on counting coup. See here:

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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
nothin says hate
like a .308

but then at a dollar a shell how much hate can ya have
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09/15/2012 11:39 AM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Spent $400 on a WASR 10 (romanian AK47) and the rest on several magazines and a couple thousand rounds and you will be good to go...
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09/15/2012 11:39 AM
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If I had to do this for 700 US dollars, it would be the Mossberg 930spx with ghost ring/M16 style barrel sight and a few ducats left for Winchest Supreme Elite PDX 12. The perfect Zombie kill combo. Can U choose wisely Greasshopper?
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09/15/2012 11:40 AM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
22 is for survival, not combat. 22 won't punch through anything.

308 is heavy. u won't be able to carry much. But if u have a supporting team of 556 or 7.62 then it would be nice to have long range capability along. Whatever a person shoots the best. Hit's count...
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I'm leaning towards a Ruger mini-14 tactical, or a 10/22 rifle and a .22 pistol. Not confident about the stopping power of the .22, but my accuracy is pinpoint. What do my fellow gun enthusiasts recommend?
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The 22 magnum ofcourse.

Feel half of Dirty Harry.

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09/15/2012 11:55 AM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I'm leaning towards a Ruger mini-14 tactical, or a 10/22 rifle and a .22 pistol. Not confident about the stopping power of the .22, but my accuracy is pinpoint. What do my fellow gun enthusiasts recommend?
 Quoting: ZeuZ


Wal-Mart
12 gauge single shot - $140
300 rounds of 12 Gauge Birdshot - $60
200 Rounds of 12 Gauge BB Shot - $90
100 Rounds of 12 Gauge Slugs - $80


.22 Long Rifle - $140
4,440 rounds of .22LR - $160

Multi Cleaning Kit 12gauge/.22LR

$30

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Grand Total - $700 Dollars

The 12 gauge you can hunt bird and squirrel with birdshot, use BB Shot as "Cheap Buckshot for Home Defense", use Slugs as a "Large Caliber .73 HUGE Rifle Round" to kill Deer/Bear/Badguy

Use the .22 for small threats, hunting , home defense (If Badguy is 30 feet away you can pump 12 rounds of .22 into him easily and nobody want 6 rounds of .22 hitting them

Here is my 12 gauge & .22 LR set up.

I have 6 Combat Tours, this is how I will do 2012, you can learn from my experiences. I was MRF-1 for 8 years.



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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I'm leaning towards a Ruger mini-14 tactical, or a 10/22 rifle and a .22 pistol. Not confident about the stopping power of the .22, but my accuracy is pinpoint. What do my fellow gun enthusiasts recommend?
 Quoting: ZeuZ


Wal-Mart
12 gauge single shot - $140
300 rounds of 12 Gauge Birdshot - $60
200 Rounds of 12 Gauge BB Shot - $90
100 Rounds of 12 Gauge Slugs - $80


.22 Long Rifle - $140
4,440 rounds of .22LR - $160

Multi Cleaning Kit 12gauge/.22LR

$30

_________________________________

Grand Total - $700 Dollars

The 12 gauge you can hunt bird and squirrel with birdshot, use BB Shot as "Cheap Buckshot for Home Defense", use Slugs as a "Large Caliber .73 HUGE Rifle Round" to kill Deer/Bear/Badguy

Use the .22 for small threats, hunting , home defense (If Badguy is 30 feet away you can pump 12 rounds of .22 into him easily and nobody want 6 rounds of .22 hitting them

Here is my 12 gauge & .22 LR set up.

I have 6 Combat Tours, this is how I will do 2012, you can learn from my experiences. I was MRF-1 for 8 years.



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1072087


OP,

This way you end up with 2 "Very common" weapons, and 5,000 rounds to defend and hunt with.
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09/15/2012 12:02 PM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
OP,

***Error***

My above post should say 14 rounds of .22 not 12 & 6 ... lol

Marlin .22 LR carries 14 rounds, I own 5 of these and now have 40,000 .22LR rounds ;-)
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09/15/2012 01:29 PM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
NOTICE: This is a data mining thread. The OP does not post again, nor engage in any discussion.

These threads are here, with similar questions and never another post from the op.

DATA MINING ALERT. Not that I care if they put me on another list, they can go to hell.
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09/15/2012 09:50 PM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I was out all day, stop freaking out. Common ammo is a big concern to me. I like the idea of being able to stock pile a couple thousand rounds of .22 for cheap, but I also like the idea of being able to shoot through a wall or vehicle if I have to protect myself. My girlfriend has a daughter whom I'm trying to get into shooting, so I'm thinking a 10/22 OR HK .22 is a good start. I've shot almost every caliber handgun, and none of them seem practical. If shit does hit the fan, it's not like customer service is going to exist so I want something reliable.

With my luck, I'll invoke Murphey's law, and martial law will never happen.

I could be over thinking everything, but with the shit that is going down around the world, it's stupid to not have something to protect yourself from the crazies.

I just wish I had the resources to figure out how to turn a battery powered screw gun into a directional long-range electro-magnetic pulse generator.
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09/15/2012 09:55 PM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
It really doesn't matter, for the end of the world is the end of the world.
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09/15/2012 10:07 PM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
A vintage 1950 Hop Along Cassidy Bunk N' Bronc CAP GUN!!!!
If it is the END OF THE WORLD, what difference does it make you IDIOT!!!!
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09/15/2012 10:08 PM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
EOTW, eh???

Shotgun might be the tool if you are a city-dweller. 20ga can be fired much more readily than a 12ga from a pistol grip configuration.

Lever action rifle is very viable. Marlin 336 in .30-30 is very reliable all-around weapon and can easily be scoped.

Remington 700 ADL in .308win can probably be found at a pawnshop with a scope and bought for about $300 in good used condition. Great all-around rifle. Look for a quality bolt gun with a Leupold scope and offer about 2/3 the marked price. Tell pawnbroker you're paying cash... Probably will get your deal.

Buy a Lee Loader and learn to handload your ammunition. Costs about $30 and is slow, but will make high quality handloads if you are not a complete idiot. Can likely scrounge empty ctg cases from the cans at your local gunrange, or ask shooters if they're saving their empty brass... Free brass makes shooting very affordable.

Look for ammo deals at WalMart and on sale at the chains like Academy. Probably find Remington or Winchester ammo for $15 a box of 20. Might find Boxer primed surplus ammo cheap at gunshop... Can reload those empty cases.

Rifle is the ticket. .308, .30-06 are the better all-around general purpose chamberings. Ammunition is the critical factor. When you handload, you can make rounds far superior to what you can generally buy at the sporting goods store.

Good luck!
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09/15/2012 10:08 PM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
depends what sort of "end of the world" you're predicting

if it's "CHINESE INVADE USA", then find out what kind of bullets they use, and get a rifle that shoots those bullets.

if it's "RUSSIANS INVADE USA", then find out what kind of bullets they use, and get a rifle that shoots those bullets.

if it's "MARSHALL LAW MORAN!!", then find out what kind of bullets they use, and get a rifle that shoots those bullets.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
A Colt AR15 is the best. Don't settle for a cheap imitation.
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depends what sort of "end of the world" you're predicting

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Massive meteor.
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09/15/2012 10:16 PM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
As people age they need optics. Pretty hard to mount them on an AK without expensive modification.
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What???

[link to www.amazon.com]

This is CHEAP and very reliable. I have had no problem with mine, it is removeable, and it is perfectly zeroed every time I put it back on.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I'm leaning towards a Ruger mini-14 tactical, or a 10/22 rifle and a .22 pistol. Not confident about the stopping power of the .22, but my accuracy is pinpoint. What do my fellow gun enthusiasts recommend?
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09/15/2012 10:26 PM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Find something in .40 caliber.

Not my favorite, but there should be large quantities of ammo available. Just look for it next near DHS jackets.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
A mini 14 is a very good choice, might want some more power though...maybe get an M1 garand from the CMP for $450 or so and then get some 12 guage pump.
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09/15/2012 10:46 PM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I like .357
a .357 revolver is extremely reliable and has a lot of stopping power
if you get a .357 lever action carbine rifle then the ammo is interchangeable between the two guns which means less to carry.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
As a mini14 tactical shooter, with Nikon 3x9x40 scope matched to 200 yds and shooting Hornady high grain at 3700+ fps.....

Yeah, I'd do a ruger mini-14. It won't jam like an AR. Only use ruger parts for ruger and it will never let you down.

As a footnote: get a ballistic calculator, know your grain, know your scope and know that what you aim at will drop with the right shot.

Ruger for life.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I'm leaning towards a Ruger mini-14 tactical, or a 10/22 rifle and a .22 pistol. Not confident about the stopping power of the .22, but my accuracy is pinpoint. What do my fellow gun enthusiasts recommend?
 Quoting: ZeuZ


A Bible!
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best answer....when judgement comes on this nation just as Jeremiah said when judgement came on Judah don't fight the enemy it is God you are fighting
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Favor ain't fair
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
A Colt AR15 is the best. Don't settle for a cheap imitation.
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Exactly. If you go AR, then go Colt, followed by Olympic Arms AR. Olympic Arms is a pioneer of the AR.
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
a 30.6 AND a 22.

Here is the reason.

The 30 ot 6 is a standard military rifle, the step above the M16. ammo will be available. It's the most common rifle. I like a .270 better, but the former is more practical. Nothing beats a .22 long rifle AND, for the handgun you can snag a 38 special cheap.

A good .306 will set you back $450. A good 22 $150 and a 38 special about $100. You will get all 3 in good quality for your price. More BANG for the buck
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Do not buy an AR or AK if your budget is only $700.

First, get a decent handgun that is concealable, such as the Glock 19. Get something in 9mm, .40 or .45 it doesn't matter which one. Glock and Springfield XD are good but there are other good brands out there. You should be able to get one for @ $500.

Spend the other $200 on a hi-cap magazine and then the rest on ammo. Glocks and Springfields won't be picky on ammo. They will eat the cheap stuff without jamming. Make sure you take it to the range and get used shooting it. At least be able to hit the target.

If TSHTF, you will be a target if you are seen carrying around an AR, AK, or shotgun. Someone who is more experienced and who has a group of buddies will see you as a potential threat and take you out. Your nice AR will be an incentive for people with a tactical advantage to kill you.

You need to conceal your weapon and be able to blend in to the crowd. If TSHTF for real, then you will have plenty of free AR's laying around from dead armchair commandos.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Ruger 10/22 for the win.. spend 250 on it in stainless and synthetic stock buy a shit wad of banana clips the burn up the rest on ammo.. Iits the most reliable and best shootin little weapons ever put out not to mention ammo is super cheap and it will fire even if ya haven't cleaned it in 4 years.. ar's are too finicky if you're not buying a. Olt and.even still if you drop.it in.the dirt good luck gettin it to fire without a field strip and clean.. fact... Ruger 10/22 and a kahr k9 pistol would be the ticket... And that's not just because what that's what I have.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Another option is get a Hi Point carbine for under $300 in 9mm, .40, or .45

Then you can get a 10/22 for another $200.

So that gets you 2 weapons with common calibers for about $500 and leaves $200 for hi cap magazines and ammo.
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get a super soaker





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