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Do peace loving Muslims ever question Islam when they see the violence and hatred of the "fundamentalists"?

 
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09/17/2012 03:08 AM
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Do peace loving Muslims ever question Islam when they see the violence and hatred of the "fundamentalists"?
I rarely hear any Muslims condemn the violence of the fundamentalists. Personally it would cause me to question my belief system after seeing the brutality that goes on.
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09/17/2012 03:11 AM
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Re: Do peace loving Muslims ever question Islam when they see the violence and hatred of the "fundamentalists"?
Why would any Muslim question the violence and hatred, when umm, the Quran that they worship teaches them to hate and be violent???

Its like asking if any scientists question Science because they see other scientists use logic and reasoning.
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Re: Do peace loving Muslims ever question Islam when they see the violence and hatred of the "fundamentalists"?
Exactly.
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Re: Do peace loving Muslims ever question Islam when they see the violence and hatred of the "fundamentalists"?
Why would any Muslim question the violence and hatred, when umm, the Quran that they worship teaches them to hate and be violent???

Its like asking if any scientists question Science because they see other scientists use logic and reasoning.
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Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and jewish people. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.
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Re: Do peace loving Muslims ever question Islam when they see the violence and hatred of the "fundamentalists"?
and how many muslims have you met? most people here disagree with the riots and dont approve at all of killing an ambassador. muslims and islam arent the same thing.
an ambassador is a person who sought to live in peace in a muslim community and is accepted that way, in no way could he be killed even if he had no religion at all.

the thing is in this world stupid people have the loudest voice...
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Re: Do peace loving Muslims ever question Islam when they see the violence and hatred of the "fundamentalists"?
80% of US Mosques teaches violence


Last week came new confirmation that mosques in the U.S. aren’t quite holding potluck suppers and teaching civic pieties. A new study has demonstrated that 80% of mosques right in this country are teaching jihad warfare and Islamic supremacism.

Researchers Mordechai Kedar and David Yerushalmi reported in the Summer 2011 issue of Middle East Quarterly about a new survey that found that “51% of mosques had texts that either advocated the use of violence in the pursuit of a Sharia-based political order or advocated violent jihad as a duty that should be of paramount importance to a Muslim.” Another 30% of mosques in the United States “had only texts that were moderately supportive of violence,” while only “19% had no violent texts at all.”

This yet again contradicts the universally held assumption that U.S. mosques are completely benign institutions, in all respects equivalent to churches and synagogues. As long ago as 1998, Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, a Sufi leader, visited 114 mosques in the United States. Then he gave testimony before a State Department open forum in January 1999 declaring that Islamic supremacists controlled most mosques in America .

“The most dangerous thing that is going on now in these mosques,” Kabbani said, “that has been sent upon these mosques around the United States—like churches they were established by different organizations and that is okay—but the problem with our communities is the extremist ideology. Because they are very active, they took over the mosques, and we can say that they took over more than 80% of the mosques that have been established in the U.S. And there are more than 3,000 mosques in the U.S. So it means that the methodology or ideology of extremists has been spread to 80% of the Muslim population, but not all of them agree with it.”

Terrorism expert Yehudit Barsky affirmed the same thing in 2005, saying that 80% of the mosques in this country “have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence.” The Center for Religious Freedom in 2005 found a massive distribution of hateful jihadist and Islamic supremacist material in mosques in this country. The Mapping Sharia Project’s 2008 study likewise found that upwards of 80% of mosques in America were preaching hatred of jewish people and Christians and the necessity ultimately to impose Islamic rule.

And in June 2008, federal investigators found that the Islamic Saudi Academy in Virginia, despite promises to stop teaching such material, was still using books that advocated that apostates from Islam be executed and that it was permissible for Muslims to kill and seize the property of “polytheists.”

What is most arresting about these studies is their unanimity. Although each was conducted independently of the others, they all came to the same conclusion: that around three-quarters of mosques in this country are teaching what amounts to sedition. And yet the mainstream media has shown about as much interest in the new survey as they did in the others—that is, none at all.

Maybe they figure that it could be worse. After all, in recent years we have seen mosques used to preach hatred, to spread exhortations to terrorist activity, to house a bomb factory, to store weapons, to disseminate messages from Osama bin Laden, to demand that non-Muslims conform to Islamic dietary restrictions, to fire on American troops, to fire upon Indian troops and to train jihadists. But most of that took place outside the United States, so who cares? We know the mosques inside this country are different! And on what do we base this certainty? Why, nothing, nothing at all except for the bland and smiling assurances of Muslim leaders in this country that mosques are simply places of worship, no more, no less, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is a greasy Islamophobe.

It is time to be more realistic. At the very least, reporters all over the country should be asking pointed questions of local mosque leaders about the books they’re using and what they’re teaching in general. And they should call on them to give honest, verifiable answers.

It is more likely, however, that this study, like the others, will simply be ignored. But don’t let that happen. Call upon your elected officials and the media to take notice of this new survey. Our freedoms depend on it.

[link to www.humanevents.com]





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