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Folks This Is Getting Dangerous! White House demands military prisons for Americans under NDAA!

 
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The White House has asked the US Second Circuit Court of Appeals to place an emergency stay on a ruling made last week by a federal judge so that the president’s power to indefinitely detain Americans without charge is reaffirmed immediately.

On Wednesday, September 12, US District Court Judge Katherine Forrest made permanent a temporary injunction she issued in May that bars the federal government from abiding by the indefinite detention provision in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, or NDAA. Judge Forrest ruled that a clause that gives the government the power to arrest US citizens suspected of maintaining alliances with terrorists and hold them without due process violated the Constitution and that the White House would be stripped of that ability immediately.

Only hours after Judge Forrest issued last week’s ruling, the Obama administration threatened to appeal the decision, and on Monday morning they followed through.

At around 9 a.m. Monday, September 17, the White House filed an emergency stay in federal appeals court in an effort to have the Second Circuit strip away Judge Forrest’s ruling from the week earlier.

“Almost immediately after Judge Forrest ruled, the Obama administration challenged the decision,” writes Chris Hedges, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist that is listed as the lead plaintiff in the case. According to Hedges, the government called Judge Forrest’s most recent ruling an “extraordinary injunction of worldwide scope,” and Executive Branch attorneys worked into the weekend to find a way to file their stay.

“The Justice Department sent a letter to Forrest and the Second Circuit late Friday night informing them that at 9 a.m. Monday the Obama administration would ask the Second Circuit for an emergency stay that would lift Forrest’s injunction,” Hedges writes. “This would allow Obama to continue to operate with indefinite detention authority until a formal appeal was heard. The government’s decision has triggered a constitutional showdown between the president and the judiciary.”

“A Department of Homeland Security bulletin was issued Friday claiming that the riots [in the Middle East] are likely to come to the US and saying that DHS is looking for the Islamic leaders of these likely riots,” Afran tells Hedges. “It is my view that this is why the government wants to reopen the NDAA — so it has a tool to round up would-be Islamic protesters before they can launch any protest, violent or otherwise. Right now there are no legal tools to arrest would-be protesters. The NDAA would give the government such power. Since the request to vacate the injunction only comes about on the day of the riots, and following the DHS bulletin, it seems to me that the two are connected. The government wants to reopen the NDAA injunction so that they can use it to block protests.”

Monday morning, Hedges once more responded to the White House’s relentless attempts to reauthorize powers granted under the NDAA, asking, “If the administration is this anxious to restore this section of the NDAA, is it because the Obama government has already used it? Or does it have plans to use the section in the immediate future?”

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This is so incredibly serious
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its because they are already using it.......
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Natzees jus bein natzees....
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Obama is out of control

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And you dummies are getting all worked up about Muslims being pissed off because they are tired of their lands being used as hunting grounds for drones. Idiots.
Oh well, you will deserve what is coming, and in spades.
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Why do we even need courts then? Just get rid of judges, attorneys, clerks and rule of law.

Just put people in jail because the government says so.

Obama is basically asking the court to invalidate itself.
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WHERE'S THE FRONT PAGE NEWS COVERAGE OF THIS?
Oh, right, there will be none.
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On Wednesday, September 12, US District Court Judge Katherine Forrest made permanent a temporary injunction she issued in May......
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Does anyone else here find it ODD that this ruling was made 119 days after the "temporary" one on May 16th?
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Obama keeps getting into it deeper and deeper.

Seems to me like the lies are wearing thin.

Media (truthful and essential) is nonexistent in this country.

I wonder what this judge is going to do??????????

If she caves, I give up all hope of any representation of our constitution at all.
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Obama keeps getting into it deeper and deeper.

Seems to me like the lies are wearing thin.

Media (truthful and essential) is nonexistent in this country.

I wonder what this judge is going to do??????????

If she caves, I give up all hope of any representation of our constitution at all.
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Why do we even need courts then? Just get rid of judges, attorneys, clerks and rule of law.

Just put people in jail because the government says so.

Obama is basically asking the court to invalidate itself.
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One of my questions is why do we need the extra taxes from the millionaires when we can just print money? What' the big harry deal then???? Just print it!
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Dirty Bolsheviks!!!
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On Wednesday, September 12, US District Court Judge Katherine Forrest made permanent a temporary injunction she issued in May......
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Does anyone else here find it ODD that this ruling was made 119 days after the "temporary" one on May 16th?
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Wow,seriously they are getting ready to do us all in!
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One of my questions is why do we need the extra taxes from the millionaires when we can just print money? What' the big harry deal then???? Just print it!
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You'll understand when you grow up.
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And you dummies are getting all worked up about Muslims being pissed off because they are tired of their lands being used as hunting grounds for drones. Idiots.
Oh well, you will deserve what is coming, and in spades.
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So us people (citizens) deserve the repercussion for our insane out-of-control "government" violating our will at every turn?

Sounds like just the type of "logic" we have grown to expect from you brain-dead idiot Canucktards.
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Obama keeps getting into it deeper and deeper.

Seems to me like the lies are wearing thin.

Media (truthful and essential) is nonexistent in this country.

I wonder what this judge is going to do??????????

If she caves, I give up all hope of any representation of our constitution at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17851333


Of COURSE she will cave.

Do you really expect that she will take a stand permanently, after the repercussions are explained to her, in no uncertain terms, by the Scum That Be?
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On Wednesday, September 12, US District Court Judge Katherine Forrest made permanent a temporary injunction she issued in May......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211168


Does anyone else here find it ODD that this ruling was made 119 days after the "temporary" one on May 16th?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1124828


Wow,seriously they are getting ready to do us all in!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20586262


Well, don't just sit there with your thumb up your bum.

Get ready to defend what is right.
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the next four years will be pure hell.....
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Why do we even need courts then? Just get rid of judges, attorneys, clerks and rule of law.

Just put people in jail because the government says so.

Obama is basically asking the court to invalidate itself.
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give him a chance that's starting next month..lol
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One thing is for certain.

People think that it is the end times, and that means that there are religious nuts on the loose. People who are afraid of the NWO, people who are willing to start civil and revolutionary war in order to support Israel or to support God...

I suspect that world leaders will be in the bunkers soon.
I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.

-Galileo Galilei
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same lawyers still working as when Bush was in by the way
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Arresting protesters before they even protest is SOOOOOO AMERICAN!!!


PROTEST WAR AGAINST IRAN? PRISON!
PROTEST DRAFT? PRISON!
PROTEST WAR AGAINST CHINA? PRISON!

Etc...
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its because they are already using it.......
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