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Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge(Gnosis) & End Times Deception-That old serpent-(Kundalini) was cast down to Earth with his angels and they dece

 
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You want to know what the tree of knowledge is? This is from a post in another thread. Here's an intriguing passage from our Father. KJV biblegateway.com John 16:12-13 "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come."

At the time of the apostles, the full truth could not be borne. So; at some point it must be told, and all will be revealed including the secrets of Daniel.
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There are two trees in the garden: the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil", which refers to the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness of the "self"; and the "Tree of Life" (Genesis 3:24) which is, specifically, a reference to the Vision of the "Son of man", which represents the non-dualistic consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27)

The "Tree of Life", by the way, is guarded by "the cherubs and the flame of a flashing sword."

The words from the Book of Daniel that have remained "secret and sealed until the time of the End", by the way, can be 'unsealed' only by someone who has received both the "Vision of Knowledge" and the Revelation of the "resurrection"; which includes the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives. That is, the "time of the End" (Chapter 12:9 of the Book of Daniel) must be understood as being the same as "time will be no longer" in Revelations 10:5-7. That is, the Revelation of Truth occurs in the absence of time; time originating in the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker'.

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Michael. You are correct. The beginning of sin was for satan to tell Eve she could be as God. That is lie number 1.
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You are attempting to trivialize a Revelation into nothing more than a fairy tale. There were no words between Satan and Eve. That is not what the symbols mean.

What there was was a differentiation from the non-dualistic consciousness Created by and in the image of God into the 'fallen' dualistic consciousness of the "self". This occurred by means of the 'movement' of self-reflection, symbolized by the "great dragon, the primeval serpent, known as the devil or Satan who had deceived all the world." (Revelations 12:9) prior to the thoughts of any 'thinker'.

He says if you have faith and DOUBT NOT!!!! Judges 9:11 and the above passage proves that the fig tree is the tree of knowledge.
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There is no such thing as the "tree of knowledge". The tree is the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" which refers to the 'fallen' consciousness of the "self".

You cannot simply cut off the last four words of the term as if they have no meaning.

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You are not following scripture. satan did in fact speak to Eve. Genesis3:4-5
4 "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
HERE IS LIE NUMBER ONE!!!

I am not cutting off anything. You are being a minutiae man now. The tree of knowledge does in fact include good and evil. Christ tells you to walk away from evil. If I say Jesus and leave off Christ, do I mean less of Savior? If I say Bible but leave off Holy, then do I consider it less than the what I imply it to mean? Certainly not. I will wipe the dust from my feet, and leave you to your mischief. I am done here. When do you decide what is literal and what is not? Christ used parables when it was to be less than literal.
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You cannot simply cut off the last four words of the term as if they have no meaning.

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I am not cutting off anything. You are being a minutiae man now. The tree of knowledge does in fact include good and evil.
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You don't understand.

It is not a question of 'including' good and evil.

It is a question of defining everything in terms of good and evil.

This is the 'fallen' consciousness of the "self".

It is a dimension of consciousness NOT Created by and in the image of God (Genesis 1:27) but which creates itself by the 'movement' of self-reflection. (And, by claiming an ability to define all good and evil, the "self" is claiming to be equal to the Creator--see Chapter 14:13 of the Book of Isaiah.)

It defines itself as the source of all "good" and the "not self" as the source of all evil.

That is the fundamental mechanism of conflict, violence, terrorism, warfare and genocide: the projection of all evil upon the "other" or the "not self".

Or you can go back to believing your juvenile fairy tales.

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Poster Jesus Christ is the way... when you say:

"5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
HERE IS LIE NUMBER ONE!!!"

You forget the chapter doesn't end in that verse. If you care to read God's utterances, you'll see he confirms the dragon's sentences.
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Poster Jesus Christ is the way... when you say:

"5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
HERE IS LIE NUMBER ONE!!!"

You forget the chapter doesn't end in that verse. If you care to read God's utterances, you'll see he confirms the dragon's sentences.
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Genesis 3: 22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, Rev. 22.14 and eat, and live for ever"

Is it clearer now? What happens is your church has repeated so many times the same argument and just until verse 5, that you just repeat like a parrot that digested argument without thinking.
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This is the 'fallen' consciousness of the "self".

It is a dimension of consciousness NOT Created by and in the image of God (Genesis 1:27) but which creates itself by the 'movement' of self-reflection. (And, by claiming an ability to define all good and evil, the "self" is claiming to be equal to the Creator--see Chapter 14:13 of the Book of Isaiah.)

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When I read your words about movement a thought came to me: zigzag like kabbalah tree...
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Poster Jesus Christ is the way... when you say:

"5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
HERE IS LIE NUMBER ONE!!!"

You forget the chapter doesn't end in that verse. If you care to read God's utterances, you'll see he confirms the dragon's sentences.
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Genesis 3: 22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, Rev. 22.14 and eat, and live for ever"

Is it clearer now? What happens is your church has repeated so many times the same argument and just until verse 5, that you just repeat like a parrot that digested argument without thinking.
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And in saying become one of US is admitting man became "divine" in a sense. His attitude is similar to the description in Genesis 11 when says "let's descend and confuse them" because he's worried about men achieving WHATEVER THEY DESIRE even going to their divine realms...
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Poster Jesus Christ is the way... when you say:

"5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
HERE IS LIE NUMBER ONE!!!"

You forget the chapter doesn't end in that verse. If you care to read God's utterances, you'll see he confirms the dragon's sentences.
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Genesis 3: 22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, Rev. 22.14 and eat, and live for ever"

Is it clearer now? What happens is your church has repeated so many times the same argument and just until verse 5, that you just repeat like a parrot that digested argument without thinking.
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And in saying become one of US is admitting man became "divine" in a sense. His attitude is similar to the description in Genesis 11 when says "let's descend and confuse them" because he's worried about men achieving WHATEVER THEY DESIRE even going to their divine realms...
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why does not country of origin show up for you? Honestly.
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You want to know what the tree of knowledge is? This is from a post in another thread. Here's an intriguing passage from our Father. KJV biblegateway.com John 16:12-13 "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come."

At the time of the apostles, the full truth could not be borne. So; at some point it must be told, and all will be revealed including the secrets of Daniel.
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There are two trees in the garden: the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil", which refers to the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness of the "self"; and the "Tree of Life" (Genesis 3:24) which is, specifically, a reference to the Vision of the "Son of man", which represents the non-dualistic consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27)

The "Tree of Life", by the way, is guarded by "the cherubs and the flame of a flashing sword."

The words from the Book of Daniel that have remained "secret and sealed until the time of the End", by the way, can be 'unsealed' only by someone who has received both the "Vision of Knowledge" and the Revelation of the "resurrection"; which includes the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives. That is, the "time of the End" (Chapter 12:9 of the Book of Daniel) must be understood as being the same as "time will be no longer" in Revelations 10:5-7. That is, the Revelation of Truth occurs in the absence of time; time originating in the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker'.

Michael
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Even ancient Chinese ideograms confirm there were TWO TREES:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
However Ezekiel 28 indicates the watcher cherub was kicked out from Eden..

(the text compared the king of Tyrus who was as cocky as that creature was and we know in Tyrus they worshipped Mars god of war)

... due to his arrogance and I don't think this is something just within our heads but from other interdimensional realm. The FXs of such fallen creature mentioned in other cultures we have seen in our bodies now...
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No there was the tree and the roots?
Please hold still so I can cut your hair long
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[link to fotolog.terra.com]
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
[link to fotolog.terra.com]

Inca, Mayan, Scandinavian trees... AVATAR tree with DNA shape...
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why does not country of origin show up for you? Honestly.
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I know why...
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As a matter of fact, poor fellow people from Hollywood or so-called Illuminati elite, what they try to do is opening their eye but fell down INTO THE SAME KIND OF TRICK DRAGON USED SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING tough with new façades. They engaged in all kind of sexual activity and perversion including Walt Disney's Satan synagoge and sex with animals, something forbidden in Leviticus but practiced since the beginning of mankind.. because they are filled with demons like their bodies being vehicles for them. In doing so they think they will reborn like Gilgamesh and believe in reeincarnation.... of course Egyptian reencarnation because they know shit about Hindu reencarnation, they are trained into Celtic and Egyptian and Greek religions to replace Christianism. It's all a lie because they have signed a white check and these powers would excecute and demand something from them and their families.

Genesis 3 MESSES AROUND WITH SEX ALRIGHT AND CHRISTIANISM DOESN'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT. One of the dceivers is Hebrew & Sumerian Ph. D. scholar Michael Heiser, because as a Christian he can not accept what he reads and understands in Hebrew. When you discuss such things with him in his webpage he gets so upset that insults you and then exercises his right to ban your posts because he won't let you write the truth for everyone to read.

Try to explain to him in Genesis Eve's damnation is related with PREGNANCY and NUDITY found explicitly in the euphemistic "hips" and neither in the mouth eating the fruit or the hand taking the fruit. Try to explain him it would be stupid for God to bless them to multiply them and immediately condemn them with the first child. He would deny the presence of Samael even if you say to him Isaiah mentioned Lillith who was linked with him in Jewish folklore. He wouldn't even want to acknowledge Jews used a SCAPEGOAT as a sacrifice to demon AZAZEL as mentioned in Leviticus 16 (if my memory doesn't betray me the chapter). Fact is even when Adam and Eve covered their 'hips' with leaves, the WALKING GOD replaced them with larger animal skin because he considered these clothes unworthy. OBVIOUSLY IS RELATED WITH SEXUAL ORGANS. And hence this text is making a link between sexual energy and the OPENED EYE.
The damnation was done because IT WAS NOT NATURAL SEX but TANTRA SEX which was ILLICIT. Demons taught these to mankind and that's why it was forbidden in Leviticus and the BOOK OF JASHER mentioned in the Book of Samuel. It wasn't just because the sexual pleasure but because the demons are not what you think. They are a combo of animals in that dimension LIKE REAL TRANSFORMERS as described in Ezekiel. So these entities in fact possess the human vehicle as well. Now modern science is just repeating with these genetic monstruosities what was already done and witnessed in the past to glorify the ones setting these ideas. It's no coincidence these MORTAL KOMBAT violent warriors have several limbs and these multiple-headed monsters in films as it was in ancient "mythology". That's the sort of CHERUBIM with the spinning flaming sword. You wrongly misinterpreted such as "archetypes" because 99% of the people NEVER SAW what ancient people have seen with that opened eye. Mind sees the invisible as IT IS with weird creatures and that's why ancient civilizations used hallucinogenic stuff and did meditation and deformed their skulls (hence altered morphology of the brain). I have seen... a bit of that realm...
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God's utterance to the snake "because you have done this..." What exactly did it do? Snake wasn't lying because I proved with the Bible God almost repeated every single word quoted by dragon winged-snake!!!!! Thus, if it wasn't lying, what was "that" sin after all??? IT WAS SOMETHING RELATED WITH EVE, of course, something of tantra sex.
Now, years ago I was convinced it was an interdimensional seraphim who materialized and indeed screwed up Eve who begot a son with the help of "Lord" (which is just a title to replace the Hebrew title and applied NOT ONLY to Almighty as English readers reading a translation would think).
Later on I learned Jewish concept of Eden was never on earth and this male-female creation was the androgynous or hemaphrodite Adam. So, probably this tantra union between the seraphim winged-snake dragon and Eve was a sort of union from one of the sides (or "ribs") which eventually determined the whole downfall of humanity. And the downfall of mankind meant wearing "skin of animals", that is we BECAME FLESH AND BONE AND BLOOD CREATURES. That's why we can't accept death whether us or our beloved ones, in spite of the fact we know people die every single second every day during thousands of years. It's unnacceptable in our hearts because we have BRANDED into our deepest self that we ONCE WERE SOMETHING ELSE otherwise we wouldn't have consciousness at all.

Now you understand me better why I wrote (a page or two ago) I believe we are trapped into this 3D kaleidoscopic realm and running like hamsters within a wheel. The original mirror broke and we are stucked (like Kripton terrorists in the original Superman film) in a piece of the broken glass. We can't see the whole mirror unbroken as it was in the beginning. I can have glimpses of that reality (I guess)...
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Seems SEX is the forbidden fruit ....

and SEX is also the tree of life ....


The tree of life found in front center of 2 wittness .

Wittness (testigo) from TESTICLES ....

tree of life = spinal chord 7 chakras 7 spirits of god 7 colors 7 musical notes not 666 but 777 .


you cant hold your seed ? then you need to justify your sin like in middle ages ... knosis is evil burn the witches !

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That's why we can't accept death whether us or our beloved ones, in spite of the fact we know people die every single second every day during thousands of years. It's unnacceptable in our hearts because we have BRANDED into our deepest self that we ONCE WERE SOMETHING ELSE otherwise we wouldn't have consciousness at all.

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It's like having a Sony or Panasonic High Definition huge television with liquid crystal screen and all 3D adaptations and along with the proper 3 glasses for the viewer to watch blue ray DVDs and suddendly the intervention (seraphim) comes in and messes around with the equipment, steals the 3 glasses and DVDs and then we are: watching just politicians with terrible sound and with no color and no 3D anymore but foggy image in black and white. WOULDN'T YOU MISS WHAT YOU HAD??????
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God's utterance to the snake "because you have done this..." What exactly did it do? Snake wasn't lying because I proved with the Bible God almost repeated every single word quoted by dragon winged-snake!!!!!
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but god liees as he say You will surely die....

in the aftermath is that he says let us not permit man take the fruits of everlasting tree of life and live forever alike us ....

and he did not say man is dead because he ate from the tree of good and evil....


he repeated the same words as the serpent ...

man had become alike us (GODs) knowers of good & evil...

(GOD LIED!) but he is god so we have to accept it , else we fry in hell !


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Seems SEX is the forbidden fruit ....

and SEX is also the tree of life ....


The tree of life found in front center of 2 wittness .

Wittness (testigo) from TESTICLES ....

tree of life = spinal chord 7 chakras 7 spirits of god 7 colors 7 musical notes not 666 but 777 .


you cant hold your seed ? then you need to justify your sin like in middle ages ... knosis is evil burn the witches !

bananasexdead3
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Indeed, amigo Puertoriqueño. Supongo que leer a Samael Aun Weor y practicar sus dichos debe haber producido un dolor de cabeza maldito que te haga necesario una tortilla de acetaminofén, jejeje! TESTICULO (testicles) means witnesses. It is like this because in the past when having an oath people had to hold their testicles. And Revelation is that, two witnesses are two testicles and "olive" is semen because the whole Apocalypse is something related with inner things. Christians wouldn't know and they will compare texts from Old Testament talking about the CHANDELIER and Salomon temple. WHAT THEY NEVER LEARNED IS THAT TEMPLE WAS ANTHROPOMORPHOUS or in the shape of a human body!!! I shall you them the images for them to learn whatever learnable thing.... after all we are IMAGES of something beyond and the temple was also an image.... heart and brain being the inner parts: Holy and Holy of Holies and, of course, columns are the LEGS and there are sexual organs as well....
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God's utterance to the snake "because you have done this..." What exactly did it do? Snake wasn't lying because I proved with the Bible God almost repeated every single word quoted by dragon winged-snake!!!!!
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but god liees as he say You will surely die....

in the aftermath is that he says let us not permit man take the fruits of everlasting tree of life and live forever alike us ....

and he did not say man is dead because he ate from the tree of good and evil....


he repeated the same words as the serpent ...

man had become alike us (GODs) knowers of good & evil...

(GOD LIED!) but he is god so we have to accept it , else we fry in hell !


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On the contrary. God didn't die. It was a warning hermaphrodite ADAM didn't want to listen as your own link mentions after 23 minutes.... The androgynous creature became like Gods and AWARE like them but in their innocence they couldn't figure out the desire of sex would beget children. It was never meant to be that. Hence Cain was the curse firstson.
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Problem is what that explanation (I haven't finished watching the video though) Genesis 3 is not talking about either two snakes (Caduceus, IDA and PINGALA in Sanscrit and OD and OB in Hebrew) but a single snake and that snake is not a "nahash" but a "hanashash" which is a seraphim winged-snake or dragon. The explanation wants us to focus in what I have already explained, the interdimensional Eden (at the 4th floor of the 7 stores building called Yesod which is a subtle Foundation) and of course the androgynous ADAM (in kabbalah they talk about Adam Rishon and Adam Kadmon) but DON'T MENTION THE OTHER BEINGS dwelling in that universe. It was one of these creatures from one of these 7 dimensions the one who did the intervention... as just like Birkelan plasma does have a shape of wrapped snakes and even the sun sheds its skin like a snake... we are dealing with ANOTHER REPTILE CREATURE HERE and NOT JUST the snake energy.... got it?
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It’s true Apocalypse 12 says the ancient snake was the dragon. Interesting Apocalypse dragon does have 7 heads (with probably 7 sins opposite to the 7 chakras, 7 heavens, 7 dimensions, 7 spheres, 7 virtues). When apostle Paul talks about the 3rd heaven, well he was quoting apocrypha including Enoch which mentions these 7 realms.
I disagree with this Gnostic video in some important issues. I agree lust or craving was the downfall of humanity. Yet, we have to remember our human bodies and those of animals were created TO FEEL PLEASURE because they have nerve tissues at the proper places, erogenous zones. Why were they made if God never wanted them to be used but it was supposed man was never to spill his semen seed? Why creating the mechanism of an orgasm? Gnostic wants us to believe the immaculate conception (taking from Leviticus 15 saying spilling the semen makes men unclean) was done without spilling the semen. What about seminal spilling at night when we are dreaming? Even if a person struggles to surrender his lust and desire and craving, anyway the mechanism was done in a such a way to spill the semen. In other words, the STORY DOESN’T FIT. If we say the androgynous Adam got one of his ribs (side) remove and then Eve was formed (not created which is “barah” in Hebrew), obviously that separated body gradually changed until it became the body of separated male and female and not like it was in the beginning: male/female=androgynous like God because that was God’s image. Why then the masculine and feminine bodies were allowed to keep screwing up the things with erogenous zones in their bodies which eventually ended up in begetting CHILDREN? The whole thing doesn’t have sense.
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Problem is what that explanation (I haven't finished watching the video though) Genesis 3 is not talking about either two snakes (Caduceus, IDA and PINGALA in Sanscrit and OD and OB in Hebrew) but a single snake and that snake is not a "nahash" but a "hanashash" which is a seraphim winged-snake or dragon. The explanation wants us to focus in what I have already explained, the interdimensional Eden (at the 4th floor of the 7 stores building called Yesod which is a subtle Foundation) and of course the androgynous ADAM (in kabbalah they talk about Adam Rishon and Adam Kadmon) but DON'T MENTION THE OTHER BEINGS dwelling in that universe. It was one of these creatures from one of these 7 dimensions the one who did the intervention... as just like Birkelan plasma does have a shape of wrapped snakes and even the sun sheds its skin like a snake... we are dealing with ANOTHER REPTILE CREATURE HERE and NOT JUST the snake energy.... got it?
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Of particular relevance here is Genesis 3:24: "...in front of the garden of Eden He posted the cherubs, and the flame of a flashing sword, to guard the way to the Tree of Life"; which symbolizes the Vision of the "Son of man", referred to in the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Sea Scrolls as the "Vision of Knowledge".

In other words, a serious effort is made to hide the Knowledge Revealed through the Vision of the "Son of man": seduction by the images of the consciousness of "self" and flawed kundalini/metaphysical interpretations by the consciousness of the 'thinker'.

What is being dealt with here is, on the contrary, the specific aspects of the 'fallen' consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' themselves as opposed to the consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27)

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I disagree with this Gnostic video in some important issues. I agree lust or craving was the downfall of humanity.
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This, of course, is the most juvenile interpretation.

The issue here is how the non-dualistic consciousness of the Creation was lost and replaced by the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness.

While J. Krishnamurti asserts that it is the consciousness of the 'thinker' which is the origin of the duality; it is, in fact, the consciousness of the "self"/"not self"--that is, the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"--that is the origin of the duality; to which the thoughts of the 'thinker' are merely "fig leaves". (See, for example, Saying #37 in the Gospel of Thomas.)

And the consciousness of the "self"/"not self" originates in the 'movement' of self-reflection (symbolized by the "great dragon, the primeval serpent, known as the devil or Satan who had deceived the whole world"--Revelations 12:9) which is a fundamental reflex of the human nervous system originating in the desire for pleasure and the avoidance of pain.

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You are not following scripture. satan did in fact speak to Eve. Genesis3:4-5


4 "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
HERE IS LIE NUMBER ONE!!!

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Here is were god lied ?

here man had become alike us knowers of good & evil !

serpent told truth .....

god justified his lie by killing man access to tree of life.


let do not permit man to eat fron tree of life so he may live forever like us ...

IF he lied then he is Lucifer who created the material world , fixed to time & space (illusion) chained spirit in material mirrages of relative reality.

that is your god .


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Fact is that Eden and Adam and Eve belong to other reality beyond earth, perhaps androgyn creature male-female and not flesh and bone.. the same reality of Eden.
Hence the transgresion with the dragon perhaps happened in THAT realm and when later on we became humans like we are, now we have two hemispheres in the brain and we are SPLIT in two, we have a tree and a snake even within our brain and we have the kundalini energy inverted as well.

Christ indeed mentioned the opening of the SINGULAR EYE but it seems unlike Eve's opening of her eye... it is not based upon the twisted snake wrapped around sex but maybe has to be awaken FROM THE HEART which is something perhaps 0.0001 % of mankind could do, so narrow is the path. If a gnostic doesn't spill his SEED or semen he would probably have a hell of a headache and doesn't mean he developed his heart chakra. Who can actually?

Not even Illuminati can stretch our miserable life. Parrots and swans have a better lifespan. That means evolution is crazy and has no purpose or God is sadistic. I don't think he (or shall I call it she or he/she or it?) is but because the INTERVENTION we are a stage for the whole universe. The outcome of freewill. Every creature in the universe is a witness of our disgrace which in their view maybe mankind lifespan is like butterflies' lifespan.

In Revelation it's said Lord was crucified IN SODOMAH AND EGYPT... could it be he had to get rid of hand, foot, an eye and sexual organs purpose or what?
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When you reach this important video set by poster from Puerto Rico, check what it says about 01:00 hour presentation. It talks about BLACK TANTRA. Well black tantra was taught by the evil spirits. Also they mention the metal snake Moses commanded to do by order of God. It says it was a bronze snake which would save Jews from the bitten of poisonous snakes as mentioned in the book of Numbers. Like serum which is made with the very venom, right?

IT WAS NOT A BRONZE SNAKE (copper/Venus/female plus tin/Jupiter/male alloy or uniting of polarities). How do I know it was not "bronze" as translated. Because the Hebrew word (which in this particular case they didn't explain in the video) was not "arad" meaning "bronze" but "nehoshet" meaning "copper" which is game of words with the equivalent of snake "nahash" or "nahash nehoshet" just like cobra is similar to the word copper.
I also know this because "bronze" translation came very late in the 18th Century and because at Tel Aviv museum in Israel they actually showed a COPPER SNAKE from those ancient times. Christ (krestos in Greek meaning "fire") compared himself with that snake set up in a staff , son of man to be lifted. If the metal was copper and not bronze, does it mean he wanted to say we should lift up the femenine energy in order to achieve the polarity and the unification with the other snakes which were masculine and falling down?
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it seems contradictory that the devil wants us to open our third eye. if you look at how the government and big corporations conspire to poison us, they actually close off our pineal gland/thalamus with fluoride and other toxins.

unless you think they do this so that we will want to purify ourselves of this when we become too toxic.

which still doesn't make sense because it seems like you're advocating eating unhealthy food, regardless of what it does to our pineal gland.

it doesn't add up.

but maybe it's not a simple matter of addition.

but there do appear to be contradictions in what you're saying and what's going on.

if you want, email me at [email protected]
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What contradiction? Point them out please. As far as flouride "califiying" our pineal gland I dont know if that is true. I belive that may be information put out for the purpose to use "reverse psychology"on the masses and get us trying to open up a so called third eye, which is the eye of lucifer. Part of his genetic makeup. Hence Daniel 2:43 about them mixing THIER SEED with THE SEED OF MEN. I believe aiming to open and opening the third eye is to worship his image.
I don't think it part of our original genetic makeup. I believe It's a corruption of our DNA and image. Not part of the image God created us/man in.
Does flouride calify the pineal? I dont know but I do know that after coming into that information many people will go and seek to "decalcify" and then go onto meditation which is the means by which "chakras" and the "third eye" are opened. These are portals we open to the devil and his demons to posess and incarnate in us. Not a GOOD thing at all!!
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it's absolutley true what he is saying. But since your mind is already made up, and you would never consider that you have it backwards, you'd probably never research that. You'll find plenty of evidence of your truth of course. Isn't it funny that religion is the ONE truth yet everything else discussed on this website is lies. Has it ever dawned on you that even that is distorted as well. Even though if you look up the chemicals in the food, water etc. the evidence if irrefutable.

The question here (and excuse me i didnt read this whole thread) is.. Is your third eye open? Because if not, then you are NOT basing your opinions on first hand experience. You are basing it on what you read, or heard. That is a belief, not an experience.
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What constitutes an open third eye if there is no such thing as a third eye? Aside from a demon coming into your mind and giving you sight. the so-called myth of the third eye being located in the pineal gland region is only a fabricated myth. That was designed only to get people to empty their minds, thus lowering their natural defenses, and open up doorways to possession. That comes from a former illuminati memeber himself.
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True words.
Perhaps one day the west will come to understand that yoga, for instance, is derived from the Sanskrit root, “yog” or “yuj,” which means the same as the English word, “yoke.” They mean “binding two together.” When one practices yoga, he is calling to the spirits to enter his body and mind and possess them. The west has been entirely deceived. Parents are enrolling their little ones in toddler yoga and the schools, free of Jesus, are bringing in yoga and meditation teachers.

This pushing of "third eye" enlightenment is so very deceptive. For instance yoga is sold as "Yoga is the progressive elimination of conscious- ness in order to secure pure Self-awareness." This is the quote used on the western gillible victims - and they are never told the sentence after that quote -

"This consciousness must be reduced to ashes, its seeds sterilized so as to render all future consciousness impossible."

If you go to a yogi guru for instruction in yoga, the above paragraph is what he is bound by agreements with his own guru master instructors to do to you over a course of time.

There idea is the state of nirvana - yogis sitting still for years having to have adult diapers changed around the clock and spoon fed meals. Seriously, people in the west have been SO DELUDED in abandoning the God of the Living, the Creator of Heaven and Earth for this crap.

But as in the garden, stir up their desire for god hood, psychic powers, healing and other "experiences" and they chase it in droves. Once they experience the altering of consciousness, they use that perception to prove the promise...which was a lie to begin with!

We are so drugged and medicated making us imbeciles with no critical thinking skills. We reject Jesus Christ as a made up story yet believe these serpents selling their wares. It truly is the end of the age when we've come full circle back to what happened in the garden. The world truly is choosing between the first Adam's inequity and the second Adam's sinlessness. I could never have foreseen this without understanding from above, the source of all wisdom and truth in this universe. Blessed be His name for ever and ever!
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The chakras are just a meditative way of dealing with personal struggles and finding peace.
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I agree with one small correction, it's a tool, how it's used is up to it's user. The same goes for religions, guns etc, just tools, how they are used is determined by those using such tools.
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So, we have to imagine a 7-floor building with this spiral stairway in the middle:
[link to www.archiexpo.es]

I (r e p l a c i n g "y o d" for "I o d") being male aspect of the androgynous God and E V E being the female aspect. Together I E V E instead of Y H V H (Y being a Greek letter as well as H or E T A). Neither J e h o v a h nor Y a h v e h...
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[link to www.sacredsemen.com]
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Gnostics - Sacred Semen of the Lost Gospel

The Gospel of Philip is related to "conception" and "giving birth", it could conceivably be a reference to the kissing of the genitals the Gnostic method of ritually collecting semen, and menses (i.e.-fellatio and cunnilingus), as both of these bodily-fluids were clearly Christian sacraments from the faiths earliest beginnings. (1)

Jesus took Mary the Magdalene "to the mountain, prayed, and took from his side a woman; he began to mingle with her; and thus, of course, partaking of his own emission, he indicated that we must act thus, so that we might live;
and when Mary was disturbed and fell to the ground, he raised her up and said to her, "O person of little faith, why did you doubt?"
-Greater Questions of Mary (2)

I stood upon a high mountain and saw a tall man, and another of short stature, and heard something like the sound of thunder and went nearer in order to hear. Then he spoke to me and said: I am thou and thou art I, and wherever thou art, there am I, and I am sown in all things; and whence thou wilt, thou gatherest me, but when thou gatherest me, then gatherest thou thyself. (3)

They say that the same soul is scattered about in animals, beasts, fish, snakes, humans, trees, and products of nature. - The Gospel of Eve (4)

Aside from swallowing semen as a measure to prevent the waste and spillage of seed, ingesting ejaculate can have spiritual benefits, as we will see. Although the Old Testament makes reference to the bitterness of semen (And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water. [Numbers 5:24]), the New Testament casts the act of consuming ejaculate in a much more affirming light, as in the following passage, where Jesus speaks to the woman of Samaria about the gift of “living water”: Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you, "Give me a drink,' you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water." 11 The woman said to him, "Sir, you have no bucket, and the well is deep. Where do you get that living water?...15 The woman said to him, "Sir, give me this water, so that I may never be thirsty or have to keep coming here to draw water." 16 Jesus said to her, "Go, call your husband, and come back." (John

4:10-16) “Living water” in this context refers to semen, which literally is the liquid of life. As Christ indicates, drinking of the “living water” provides a spiritual replenishment for the soul. When the woman asks Jesus where she can get this “water”, he tells her to fetch her husband, clearly with the intention of instructing her on how to fellate him and swallow his semen. - Gospel of Thomas (5)

1. The Gospel of Philip
2. Epiphanius Against Heresies 26.8.2f tr. Bently Layton link
3. Epiphanius, Panarion, 26.3.1
4. Epiphanius, Panarion, 26.9.1


OTO A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE GNOSTIC MASS - BETWEEN BISHOP RICHARD GERNON AND RT. REV. JEROME PEARTREE "This is my semen." This is the vehicle of the Holy Spirit - very straightforward
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The Gnostic Mass as Biological Allegory The wine is the semen, "the blood that is thy life," (Liber CLVI, v.2) that flows from the grapes of the testes.
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the "holy kiss"(Romans 16:16), or "kiss of Love"(1 Peter 5:14) which is suggested as a means of greeting. But, as the "kiss", in the case of The Gospel of Philip is related to "conception" and "giving birth", it could conceivably be a reference to the kissing of the genitals the Gnostic method of ritually collecting semen, and menses (i.e.-fellatio and cunnilingus), as both of these bodily-fluids were clearly Christian sacraments from the faiths earliest beginnings . "Fellatio was... used, according to Epiphanius...as a ritual technique among a number of Gnostic sects"(Camphausen 1991)

Jesus gave them a revelation when he took them with him up the mountain. He prayed, and then took a women out of his side and began to have sexual intercourse with her. He caught his ejaculated semen in order to demonstrate that such behavior was necessary for us to live.

Upon seeing the savior consume his own flowing semen, Mary Magdalene was in such a state of shock that she fell to the ground. After lifting her back up, Jesus responded with remarks that were also used in the New Testaments Gospel of John; "Why do you doubt me, o you of little faith?"; "If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you of heavenly things?"(John 3:12); and "...unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you" (John 6:53).

the sacramental use of semen, both eaten and rubbed on the body "had a long tradition in Canaanite religion"(Allegro 1980)

erotic acts taking place at the Christian Agape ritual, (the Love-feast), and recorded to have originated from the fertility practices of Baal-Peor. This early tradition of erotic behavior at the Love-Feasts, indicates that the Question of Mary, although not referred to on the historical record before Epiphanius's fourth century refutation, could conceivably be a secret account of an actual apostolic tradition . Such an idea would certainly throw a new light on ...Jesus' statement not to "cast your pearl's before swine. If you do they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces"(Matthew 7:6), (Which would have definitely been the fate of Jesus had he revealed this secret Gnostic-Tantric technique of ingesting semen (pearls?) at one of his sermons before Jewish crowds!).

Carl Jung, saw profound symbolism in the auto-erotic tale of Jesus eating his own semen, that so shocked the early Church Fathers. He commented that: "For the medical psychologist there is nothing very lurid about it." . Jung continued, stating that similar "shocking" imagery can appear in both dreams and intense psychological treatment. The famed psychologist and Gnostic aficionado, felt that by the references to John 3:12, the author of the tractate intended that this was to be seen as symbolic of Christ as the inner man, who had to be reached through the path of self knowledge, i.e.-"the kingdom of heaven is with you".

But other Gnostic documents, clearly portray that there was a very literal side to the semen eating described in the ancient Gnostic writing. In fact Epiphanius recorded that the Gnostic writers of the Question of Mary interpreted a saying they borrowed from John (6:62), as Jesus' justification of the act; "What if you were to see the Son of Man ascending where he was before?", as meaning "that is when you see the ejaculated semen restored to its source"(i.e.-the substance of the Son, is restored to the Father).

a parable concerning seed that "The one who sowed the good seed [semena] is the Son of Man... the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom... the harvesters are angels."(Matthew 13:37-39) Through the harvest "the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father"(Matthew 13:43). A conception, which as we shall show, is completely in line with the Gnostic beliefs concerning the ingestion of seminal fluids.

contributing to the development of the Gnostic's sacramental ingestion of semen, may be passages from the New Testament's Gospel of John, a text which some researchers have suggested may have been penned by a Gnostic author. Interestingly, it was with quotes from the Gospel of John, that the Question of Mary had Jesus defend his sacrificial ingestion of the sacred bodily fluid, and these appear in a story where Jesus reveals himself as "the bread of life", telling the disbelieving disciples "it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives the true bread from heaven. For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.... I am the living bread that came down from heaven... This bread is my flesh.... I tell you the truth, unless you can eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you." (John 6:32-53) The bread of life and living water of John's Jesus are present within himself. This peculiar doctrine caused many of Jesus' followers to question him; "This is a hard teaching who can accept it?" (John 6:60). A query that caused Jesus to give the above quoted reply of "What if you were to see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!" As a direct result of this curious new teaching many of Jesus' "disciples turned back and no longer followed him"(John 6:66).

the Latin word mas, very similar to the Catholic Church's Latin name for the Eucharistic meal Mass, translates as "male seed" , leaving one to wonder just what the original Christian Eucharist was.

Old Testament's first Psalm, as making secret references to the sacramental ingestion of semen; "He is like a tree planted by streams of water, that yields its fruit in its seasons, and its leaf does not wither"; The "yield" of "fruits" in "season", was interpreted as "seminal ejaculation in pleasure", where as "the leaf does not wither", meant to them "we do not let it fall to the ground, but we eat it ourselves"(Panarion 26,8)

in Gnosticism, where the elect could bestow "grace" on lesser initiates with a sacramental gift of their semen, in Tantrism semen is imbued with magical powers and a "drink containing the semen of a respected master is consumed by his disciples. semen represents the genetic heritage handed down from generation to generation"(Danielou 1992) In relation to Jesus eating his own semen, it is interesting to note that in Tantric rites, a man offering semen through masturbator practices, was referred to as a "fish", a popular symbol of the living Christ.

Sacramental ingestion of semen was also practiced in ancient Thrace and Greece, where they believed that in homosexual love, "the virtues of the lover were transferred to the beloved. It was believed that this happened physically through the transmission of the semen which contained [a part of] the essence of the soul..."(Wellesley 1973).

Robert Anton Wilson pointed to a number of medieval Alchemical manuscripts as making hidden references to the act of ingesting one’s seed, and noted that it is still practiced by modern occultists, who believe that semen "contains a real spiritual substance that is beneficial when consumed.... the semen contains this 'life force' and gives one the extra energy needed to reach the higher mystical trances"(Wilson 1973).

the rites of the Ophites and the closely related Naasenes (both of whose names have connotations of serpent) are by some sources suggested to predate Christianity and may conceivably have had a profound influence on the beliefs and rites instituted by Jesus. "Much of the [Ophites] serpent worship and occult ritualism was probably derived from primitive paganism"(COLUMBIA 1968). "Primitive paganism" being the orgiastic rites that were practiced throughout Canaan, and adopted by the Israelites on and off, ever since Balaam first seduced them into "sin" at Baal-Peor.

the Naasenes viewed phallic-vaginal intercourse as "exceedingly wicked", as by the potential of producing children, it prevented the return of the light trapped in matter back to the Kingdom of Light. The Naasenes paid reverence to gods, including Jesus, in the form of phallic images , and practiced ritual masturbation in celebratory worship of the male power, ingesting the semenal emissions as the highest sort of sacrament.. "semen was referred to by the Naasenes as the 'beauteous seeds of Benjamin,' , 'the water in those fair nuptials which Jesus changing made into wine'"(Conner 1993) .

As a sacred text defending their autoerotic and homoerotic practices, the Levites quoted from the apocryphal Gospel of Philip, which speaks of "knowing oneself", which they interpreted as masturbation, of "collecting all that has been scattered of oneself into oneself again", which they interpreted as saving or eating one's own semen, and of "sowing no children" for the evil God of the Old Testament, which they interpreted as sanctioning auto- and homoeroticism"(Conner 1993).
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