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PROPERTY OWNERSHIP is a LIE in the USA --- You Own No Land of your Own

 
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Just saying, even if you own a property, you still gotta pay a bunch in property taxes, if you don't.

Government takes property


Ownership?

How can you own what will be taken if payments stop coming?


ownership means it is yours totally.

No such thing exists in the USA for land.
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seriously tho


how come you cant just buy some land and have it be yours until you sell it or die without paying someone for it every year
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I agree.
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Very true. where in the world would it be your property? Anywhere?
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Land Patent I've used it three times against imminent domain challenges and I don't pay property taxes.

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They would probably say that if you dont pay property taxes, there is no money to teach kids how to earn a living, so they will come and steal your land anyway.

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I can understand that when owning property gave you a higher status in society than some property taxes made sense


but now... property ownership does not change any status
you gotta pay huge amounts of money every year for somethign that you "own".

Government taxes too much now

needs checking

Property taxes are essential for budget now, but...

I think we should have an option of out-right ownership

without it, no one really owns a damn thing

the Government owns ALL LAND and Banks/You gotta pay up every year for it
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I can understand that when owning property gave you a higher status in society than some property taxes made sense


but now... property ownership does not change any status
you gotta pay huge amounts of money every year for somethign that you "own".

Government taxes too much now

needs checking

Property taxes are essential for budget now, but...

I think we should have an option of out-right ownership

without it, no one really owns a damn thing

the Government owns ALL LAND and Banks/You gotta pay up every year for it
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No. Let us be clear. The government doesn't own a damned thing. The government enforces and repossesses.
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Land Patent I've used it three times against imminent domain challenges and I don't pay property taxes.

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Read it. but still not sure how that gets you out of paying property taxes. What did I miss?
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I can understand that when owning property gave you a higher status in society than some property taxes made sense


but now... property ownership does not change any status
you gotta pay huge amounts of money every year for somethign that you "own".

Government taxes too much now

needs checking

Property taxes are essential for budget now, but...

I think we should have an option of out-right ownership

without it, no one really owns a damn thing

the Government owns ALL LAND and Banks/You gotta pay up every year for it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264


No. Let us be clear. The government doesn't own a damned thing. The government enforces and repossesses.
 Quoting: Cave Johnson


So if I own property X.
but, dont pay property taxes, the Government comes an repossesses for whom?

The bank I bought it from?

How can I own something I need to keep paying for?
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More like a lease - pay the lease, you can call it yours.

Miss a (Tax) lease payment, its no longer yours.
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True, and also true for anything else you pay property tax on.
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you--You know your nation is doomed.
Ayn Rand
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J*E*W Agenda of enslavement from the Start.

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So how does the land really belong to????

Privates, Banks, and Government

All of which must keep paying for it other than Government...
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Re: PROPERTY OWNERSHIP is a LIE in the USA --- You Own No Land of your Own
Look at the deed.. LOL a Deed. Anyway, it says you are a tenant. Also never register anything, when you do register something(like yourself for voting(which doesn't matter)) You voluntarily gave up your power to something else. Also if you use FRNs for exchange, the note holder owns it. You the serf are not the note holder. You never own anything. Entitlements is where everyone went wrong. It comes down to this, are you a serf or an outlaw?
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Technically the Vatican has claim over everything and no one has challenged it yet. Its not what you know, its why you know it.
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So how does the land really belong to????

Privates, Banks, and Government

All of which must keep paying for it other than Government...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264


You're 99.99% correct. There's a city or two in the United States that doesn't have property taxes.

Stafford, Texas is one city that has zero property tax.

And believe it or not, North Dakota residents voted NO to ending their property taxes this past summer.
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No offense OP but you're just figuring this out?

If you really want to get your blood boiling you should think about the people like me who "own" land that they have built up. I bought the 30 acres I reside on 18 years ago. This ground is no good for planting and pasture to timber ratio won't sustain more than a couple head of cattle. This ground had absolutely no improvements on it. No fencing, driveway, utilties, nothing. I built my 1800 square foot house with my own two hands from the ground up. Except for concrete work I sub'd that out. I dug the water and laid the water line, septic, etc with rental equipment and shovels. Numerous outbuildings including my 40x80 shop. Entire property is fenced, put in pond. Everything here has been done by me.

This place is paid for now as of April of this year. I personally have increased the state's revenue based solely on my hard work on this piece of land. The state collects 50 times the sales tax on this ground than it did before I got my hands on it. But if I do not pay the state its yearly rent they will come with guns and chains and remove me without so much as a moments loss of sleep of what I or they have done.

Would like to see changes in property tax laws but never gonna happen. We are to much of a cash cow to the goverment when we are working and when we are at home.
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Re: PROPERTY OWNERSHIP is a LIE in the USA --- You Own No Land of your Own
Just saying, even if you own a property, you still gotta pay a bunch in property taxes, if you don't.

Government takes property


Ownership?

How can you own what will be taken if payments stop coming?


ownership means it is yours totally.

No such thing exists in the USA for land.
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...and this was done by the chosen people of G-d. Read baruck levy's letter to Marx. They are almost finished. God bless.
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Re: PROPERTY OWNERSHIP is a LIE in the USA --- You Own No Land of your Own
Just saying, even if you own a property, you still gotta pay a bunch in property taxes, if you don't.

Government takes property


Ownership?

How can you own what will be taken if payments stop coming?


ownership means it is yours totally.

No such thing exists in the USA for land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264


...and this was done by the chosen people of G-d. Read baruck levy's letter to Marx. They are almost finished. God bless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8384834


WOW!!! When you type J*O*O it changes to chosen people of G-d.
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I can understand that when owning property gave you a higher status in society than some property taxes made sense


but now... property ownership does not change any status
you gotta pay huge amounts of money every year for somethign that you "own".

Government taxes too much now

needs checking

Property taxes are essential for budget now, but...

I think we should have an option of out-right ownership

without it, no one really owns a damn thing

the Government owns ALL LAND and Banks/You gotta pay up every year for it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264


No. Let us be clear. The government doesn't own a damned thing. The government enforces and repossesses.
 Quoting: Cave Johnson


So if I own property X.
but, dont pay property taxes, the Government comes an repossesses for whom?

The bank I bought it from?

How can I own something I need to keep paying for?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264


Be careful, you're starting to fall down the rabbit hole.
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Re: PROPERTY OWNERSHIP is a LIE in the USA --- You Own No Land of your Own
Just saying, even if you own a property, you still gotta pay a bunch in property taxes, if you don\'t.

Government takes property


Ownership?

How can you own what will be taken if payments stop coming?


ownership means it is yours totally.

No such thing exists in the USA for land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264


...and this was done by the chosen people of G-d. Read baruck levy\'s letter to Marx. They are almost finished. God bless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8384834


WOW!!! When you type J*O*O it changes to chosen people of G-d.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8384834



Humanity has a terminal disease and is in a collective state of denial.

The Illuminati is wholly Jewish, started by a Jew, operated by the Jews who control the money. Now used, as a convenient myth by Jewish writers to say the problem is not really Jewish.

There is coming a time soon in which we shall have to fight Jews because they are Jews and because we are not,\\\" J.B. Campbell proclaimed in \\\'Jewish Rule\\\' - \\\"They will leave us with no other choice, just as they left the Russians and the Palestinians and the Hungarians and now the Lebanese with no other choice but fight or die a nasty death after captivity and thirst and starvation and torture.

They are everywhere in between, inserting their agenda, have nothing else to do, they are turning America into a grid, for NWO, using best of worlds stolen, manipulated offspring. They make it seem as if everyone is against everyone, and they are the saviors. They make mockery of truth and truely sacred things, and then use them against the masses by stealing fruits of truth. They rely on shame of Americas history and at the same hollow shortsighted pride of it masses who indulge in degradation. They are doctors, lawyers, producers of death for you and your children. Good luck living in their perspective reality.

Truth is:
\"There are no DNA sequences common to all Jews and absent from all non-Jews\"

Wait and see.
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Technically the Vatican has claim over everything and no one has challenged it yet. Its not what you know, its why you know it.
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Yes. Popes like Rothschild, Warburg, Kuhn and Loeb, Goldman Sachs, Israeli Moses....hmm. wait. those are not catholic names. wait a minute. this is the same people who control ALL media and ALL finance.

Oh my god. oh my god! It is NOT the Vatican!!!

We are in wars against muslims countries for all the non-catholics above who are all "the chosen people of G-d."

It is THEM!!! Stop deflecting with Vatican.
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Re: PROPERTY OWNERSHIP is a LIE in the USA --- You Own No Land of your Own
Just saying, even if you own a property, you still gotta pay a bunch in property taxes, if you don\'t.

Government takes property


Ownership?

How can you own what will be taken if payments stop coming?


ownership means it is yours totally.

No such thing exists in the USA for land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264


...and this was done by the chosen people of G-d. Read baruck levy\'s letter to Marx. They are almost finished. God bless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8384834


WOW!!! When you type J*O*O it changes to chosen people of G-d.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8384834



Humanity has a terminal disease and is in a collective state of denial.

The Illuminati is wholly Jewish, started by a Jew, operated by the Jews who control the money. Now used, as a convenient myth by Jewish writers to say the problem is not really Jewish.

There is coming a time soon in which we shall have to fight Jews because they are Jews and because we are not,\\\" J.B. Campbell proclaimed in \\\'Jewish Rule\\\' - \\\"They will leave us with no other choice, just as they left the Russians and the Palestinians and the Hungarians and now the Lebanese with no other choice but fight or die a nasty death after captivity and thirst and starvation and torture.

They are everywhere in between, inserting their agenda, have nothing else to do, they are turning America into a grid, for NWO, using best of worlds stolen, manipulated offspring. They make it seem as if everyone is against everyone, and they are the saviors. They make mockery of truth and truely sacred things, and then use them against the masses by stealing fruits of truth. They rely on shame of Americas history and at the same hollow shortsighted pride of it masses who indulge in degradation. They are doctors, lawyers, producers of death for you and your children. Good luck living in their perspective reality.

Truth is:
\"There are no DNA sequences common to all Jews and absent from all non-Jews\"

Wait and see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6428218



Thank god there is still someone with intelligence!!!
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Re: PROPERTY OWNERSHIP is a LIE in the USA --- You Own No Land of your Own
wait till you see what the FED is going to "exchange" for that massive debt... everyone's private land!


step 1) big emergency, goverment excersizes EO's to seize all private property.

step 2) banks call in debt, government, now holding all property, gives it all to banks.

bye bye usa
It's almost here....
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Re: PROPERTY OWNERSHIP is a LIE in the USA --- You Own No Land of your Own
Just saying, even if you own a property, you still gotta pay a bunch in property taxes, if you don't.

Government takes property


Ownership?

How can you own what will be taken if payments stop coming?


ownership means it is yours totally.

No such thing exists in the USA for land.
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100% right...thanks for educating the masses OP!
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Just saying, even if you own a property, you still gotta pay a bunch in property taxes, if you don't.

Government takes property


Ownership?

How can you own what will be taken if payments stop coming?


ownership means it is yours totally.

No such thing exists in the USA for land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264


Because since the emergency banking act of 1933, the republic has been bankrupt. The act "dissolve(s) the soveriegn authority" of these united states. The whole house folded and the "government" you think you have now is a private for profit international maritime lenter, private law, private monetary system, corporation not a government. It serves the creditors in the bankruptcy. Most are ignorant of this fact and are tricked by the federal reserve private banking cartel funded public education system into using their unrestricted signature of the birth certificate name to contract with them "voluntarily", because ignorance "is no excuse for the law."
They own that certificate, and if you use the name, they own you as you are pledging your flesh and blood as an agent of the corporation created to resemble your "first, last name"

The whole government corperate FEDERAL UNITED STATES is run from the bottom up as a recievership mechanism to deliver unto the international creditors of the bankruptcy, all the land, goods, labor, mineral rights etc to satisfy the debt of the now defunct republic.

Where this intersects with your property rights, is where you bought the house. Simply you used their birth certificate name to bond the private credit that purchased your house into existance using the monetary system of the foriegn occupying corporation and thereby you dont have alloidum title to your property. "your money" is really their promissory notes and you pay a use fee (income taxes) for the right to use what you buy with it. They still have first lein on anything you buy with their money, its called hypothecation. you are merely the custodian of their property. Does not matter if you took a loan or not. Your signature authorized their private corp banking system to create that "money" substitute which you then paid for your property with. They own your property you are merely the tenet or occupant in that arrangement. You operate that property and upkeep it for its true owner.

This type of corporate activity on your part is taxable by both the feds and your bankruptcy corp incorporated state. So if you dont pay them tribute, then they take back whats really, at law, theirs the whole time you buy the line about "ownership"

Wake up america, the bankster coup was in our grandparents generation, they had their economic situation used against them in a bait and switch. The corporate federal united states and its privately owned federal reserve private credit banking cartel are foriegn occupiers in respect to the free men and women on this land. This situation is not to your benefit and is designed to deliver, over two-three generations, all of your productive labor and substance to international bankers. This is how they took back what they lost when we won the revolutionary war. They knew they could not use arms to overcome us, so they used money.

OP, respectfully, all our problems are way bigger than property taxes. Staying free and not paying 50% of your lifesblood to these parasites for their odius debt should be the priority of every american. They want you to slave. Only through our unity can we hope to spread this truth as is plainly obvious in LAW and in the public record, to all flesh and blood men and women and take back our republic from these foriegn occupying tyrants.
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Just saying, even if you own a property, you still gotta pay a bunch in property taxes, if you don't.

Government takes property


Ownership?

How can you own what will be taken if payments stop coming?


ownership means it is yours totally.

No such thing exists in the USA for land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264


Because since the emergency banking act of 1933, the republic has been bankrupt. The act "dissolve(s) the soveriegn authority" of these united states. The whole house folded and the "government" you think you have now is a private for profit international maritime lenter, private law, private monetary system, corporation not a government. It serves the creditors in the bankruptcy. Most are ignorant of this fact and are tricked by the federal reserve private banking cartel funded public education system into using their unrestricted signature of the birth certificate name to contract with them "voluntarily", because ignorance "is no excuse for the law."
They own that certificate, and if you use the name, they own you as you are pledging your flesh and blood as an agent of the corporation created to resemble your "first, last name"

The whole government corperate FEDERAL UNITED STATES is run from the bottom up as a recievership mechanism to deliver unto the international creditors of the bankruptcy, all the land, goods, labor, mineral rights etc to satisfy the debt of the now defunct republic.

Where this intersects with your property rights, is where you bought the house. Simply you used their birth certificate name to bond the private credit that purchased your house into existance using the monetary system of the foriegn occupying corporation and thereby you dont have alloidum title to your property. "your money" is really their promissory notes and you pay a use fee (income taxes) for the right to use what you buy with it. They still have first lein on anything you buy with their money, its called hypothecation. you are merely the custodian of their property. Does not matter if you took a loan or not. Your signature authorized their private corp banking system to create that "money" substitute which you then paid for your property with. They own your property you are merely the tenet or occupant in that arrangement. You operate that property and upkeep it for its true owner.

This type of corporate activity on your part is taxable by both the feds and your bankruptcy corp incorporated state. So if you dont pay them tribute, then they take back whats really, at law, theirs the whole time you buy the line about "ownership"

Wake up america, the bankster coup was in our grandparents generation, they had their economic situation used against them in a bait and switch. The corporate federal united states and its privately owned federal reserve private credit banking cartel are foriegn occupiers in respect to the free men and women on this land. This situation is not to your benefit and is designed to deliver, over two-three generations, all of your productive labor and substance to international bankers. This is how they took back what they lost when we won the revolutionary war. They knew they could not use arms to overcome us, so they used money.

OP, respectfully, all our problems are way bigger than property taxes. Staying free and not paying 50% of your lifesblood to these parasites for their odius debt should be the priority of every american. They want you to slave. Only through our unity can we hope to spread this truth as is plainly obvious in LAW and in the public record, to all flesh and blood men and women and take back our republic from these foriegn occupying tyrants.
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I wrote this^^^. BTW I have done much research into this subject in LAW, and history. I have seen no indication that this current of information involves a certain "chosen race" or any other religion etc, as comments by other posters above would indicate. I have seen some connections to zionism as a political construct, but not to any religion or race. Simply that some of the political backers of zionism seem to have personally been involved in setting up this system in the last hundred years. Although, in the spirit of research integrity I welcome links and supporting evidence for some of the statements above, I dont think that this was done to benefit the jewish people at large. Hell if we connect every adherent and congregation of every religion to every wrong doing at one time or another of the same religion or race, then we would all be murdering each other all the time.


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