Anyone got any tricks for making yourself dream about something specific? | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/12/2012 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | did your thread get hijacked by an 'mk ultra' wannabe? sux. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25445131 yes OP. set intention before falling asleep. carlos casteneda describes this in one of his first lessons to don juan...'look at your hands in your sleep. be aware of yourself looking at your hands, and that you are dreaming.' he was instructing on BASIC dream work...in fact, lucid dreaming is a trap and there are steps beyond it, if you care to go. check out robert moss. and stay way away from the monroe institute. our mk ultra friend should know what i mean. some of us are happy to say we weren't fucked up with brainwashing...and choose how we program ourselves in alignment with higher self and greater good. lmao yeah it got jumped on straight away. im aware of castendas work and other techniques for lucidity.i need tricks for within that for pulling"specifics"into it and holding the state long enough to do something(which seems to be easier with altered states where you start from an awake state). ill look into Robert Moss thankyou very much. everyone is susceptible to some programming just by being born, by culture and how we are raised, the information fed to us by society, teachers our families etc.The trick is in Deconstruction and questioning every ideal we have learnt by either being taught or have taught ourselves by proxy due to our learning experiences. thankyou again. i was raised entirely off the land, off grid, no media, no electricity, phone, toilet; animals, gardens, etc. so yeah. :) some of us do have very different perspectives. my entire life has been dedicated solely to the path of the heart. :) it goes to some dark places, i tell you. :) in one sense i think you are lucky to have been raised like that, it makes things easier, except for the experience of having to undo so much.Very nice to meet you! I know darkness, but i do not view it as others may, it is just another"side" of the whole. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/12/2012 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you wake up at 7am, set your alarm for 5:30 or so then turn it off and go back to sleep. This will put you in the lucid dreaming state. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21427624 i agree thats the best time for lucidity and the waking and going back to sleep works very well for vivid/lucid dreams, however, im looking for tricks to brings specifics into it, not for gaining lucidity as such.Thankyou screw steiner. jung is good 101. robert moss is good 102. the tibetan yogas of dreams and sleep...why yes. 103. [link to www.amazon.com] and holger kalweit. [link to www.amazon.com] The last two links i appreciate very much-thankyou!jung i read years ago, but will look into the links when i get a chance(brainfood) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/12/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | depends on if the individual has spent enough time deconstructing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25454833 what have you been working on deconstructing read my post on page one about how were programmed from birth.its case specific for everyone so what is specific to me is not necessarily what will be specific to everyone, base premise for what i wrote does apply for everyone though. yes i can be fun OYE, i didnt write this thread to play in though. I understand things without the need of studying them. So yes I understand how people are "programmed" is all facets of their life. However, I want to know what YOU are working on within yourself. So I can mirror the conversation with you more effectively. I can be your greatest sage. If you let your guard down and Open up. nice suggestive talk there.I dont believe you have any info on what im looking for and the rest is a ruse, no matter how "flattering" and polite your wording. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/12/2012 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand things without the need of studying them. Quoting: Open Your Eyes So yes I understand how people are "programmed" is all facets of their life. However, I want to know what YOU are working on within yourself. So I can mirror the conversation with you more effectively. I can be your greatest sage. If you let your guard down and Open up. nice suggestive talk there.I dont believe you have any info on what im looking for and the rest is a ruse, no matter how "flattering" and polite your wording. You would be surprised what kinds of answers I can receive instantly if the intent of the recipient is pure. Lucifer enjoys helping humans evolve. i doubt id believe anything you said combining pure and intent in the same sentence. ive offered You help(more than once, and more than in this thread,lol)...it will never be the other way around OYE.i know that. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/12/2012 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ive offered You help(more than once, and more than in this thread,lol)...it will never be the other way around OYE.i know that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25454833 Tell me what your vantage point is. In terms of how you view you can be of suggestive guidance. experience.This was discussed elsewhere once. i do relise youre not serious -doesnt mean ive never been serious in my offer though. so do you have any tips and tricks for what ive asked? i know you dont lol.no matter, youre displaying your behaviour very nicely...for 3 pages.thanks for that OYE. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/12/2012 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ive offered You help(more than once, and more than in this thread,lol)...it will never be the other way around OYE.i know that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25454833 Tell me what your vantage point is. In terms of how you view you can be of suggestive guidance. experience.This was discussed elsewhere once. i do relise youre not serious -doesnt mean ive never been serious in my offer though. so do you have any tips and tricks for what ive asked? i know you dont lol.no matter, youre displaying your behaviour very nicely...for 3 pages.thanks for that OYE. Experience. Well if I think about something, I can dream it. That is Experience. In Action. thats not what i was adressing and you know that lol.nice diviersion.(everyones watching OYE) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/12/2012 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i doubt id believe anything you said combining pure and intent in the same sentence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25454833 My consciousness level (vibrational energy level) is the highest in the world. That measures PURE INTENT. hahahahahahaha I could show the world my Natural State of Pure Love However, they are not ready for that yet. and no we have not met irl. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/12/2012 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Open Your Eyes Tell me what your vantage point is. In terms of how you view you can be of suggestive guidance. experience.This was discussed elsewhere once. i do relise youre not serious -doesnt mean ive never been serious in my offer though. so do you have any tips and tricks for what ive asked? i know you dont lol.no matter, youre displaying your behaviour very nicely...for 3 pages.thanks for that OYE. Experience. Well if I think about something, I can dream it. That is Experience. In Action. thats not what i was adressing and you know that lol.nice diviersion.(everyones watching OYE) you did adrees the subject of this thread slightly but not what i was adressing in the post you responded to.Do you have any tips and tricks for what ive asked??lol or just statements that bear holding to answering directly? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/13/2012 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could show the world my Natural State of Pure Love However, they are not ready for that yet. and no we have not met irl. Have we spoken before in other threads? Do you have a registered account? weve discussed programming in another thread.actually maybe more than one other thread. |
machonocho User ID: 25164238 United States 10/13/2012 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Speaking from experience. We process information at night that is fresh and challenging. In the same way we drive home on familiar roads and do not even pay conscious attention to it and just "show up," the opposite happens when we encounter the unfamiliar. When we cram for exams and learn new concepts we often have a dream about a test the night before a real test. that is because of stress and new pathways of thinking. You can't think about cars all day and expect to dream about women. So what to do? Write, think, wonder, create. Write out what you want to dream about. write out how the story begins. create a stressful but positive situation in the fantasy/dream desired. During the day associate names with places, colors, and smells that are part of the dream/fantasy. ex, green hills, fresh rain, red dress... Fantasy is exciting because of the unknown, stressful element. When lying in bed, imagine what you want to dream about, then modify it, change the people, or setting, or outcome. CHALLENGE your mind and its creativity and it will answer back. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/13/2012 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | weve discussed programming in another thread.actually maybe more than one other thread. The big one. That was a fun thread! lol no it was a brief interjection in a random thread.lol, i relaise you make that many posts in multiple threads itd be hard to remember. nice diversion yet again.haha. i did not state(nor do i have to state) what the specific things are or what exactly im doing i asked for tips and tricks to dream of specifics. lol.. at least if youre trying to derail here it keeps you busy and thus you cant bug other people. do you get this OYE? im not here to divulge why or what.thats nobodys business but mine, lol im just asking for helpful tricks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1146136 United States 10/13/2012 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems like the basic concepts of certain memory tricks might work. The more effective ones might be the visual association techniques. These normally string together images similar to what you want to remember, to help you remember multiple things. The crazier the images the easier they are to remember. For instance, to remember peach, banana and an apple. I might picture the peach fighting the banana and it starts peeling the banana. Then the apple jumps from the top rope of a ring and takes out the apple. There are also objects you can use, for instance if you wanted to remember to fly in your dream, perhaps a feather under your pillow. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/13/2012 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Speaking from experience. Quoting: machonocho 25164238 We process information at night that is fresh and challenging. In the same way we drive home on familiar roads and do not even pay conscious attention to it and just "show up," the opposite happens when we encounter the unfamiliar. When we cram for exams and learn new concepts we often have a dream about a test the night before a real test. that is because of stress and new pathways of thinking. You can't think about cars all day and expect to dream about women. So what to do? Write, think, wonder, create. Write out what you want to dream about. write out how the story begins. create a stressful but positive situation in the fantasy/dream desired. During the day associate names with places, colors, and smells that are part of the dream/fantasy. ex, green hills, fresh rain, red dress... Fantasy is exciting because of the unknown, stressful element. When lying in bed, imagine what you want to dream about, then modify it, change the people, or setting, or outcome. CHALLENGE your mind and its creativity and it will answer back. thankyou, and yes maybe more consideration is needed during the day to "prime the subconcious", interesting you said"stressful but positive"i think i get what you mean..create a "program" (so to speak) so energypacked that the mind has no choice but to try resolve it it dream form...i think thats what you mean...thankyou..it think that may just work. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/13/2012 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems like the basic concepts of certain memory tricks might work. The more effective ones might be the visual association techniques. These normally string together images similar to what you want to remember, to help you remember multiple things. The crazier the images the easier they are to remember. For instance, to remember peach, banana and an apple. I might picture the peach fighting the banana and it starts peeling the banana. Then the apple jumps from the top rope of a ring and takes out the apple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1146136 There are also objects you can use, for instance if you wanted to remember to fly in your dream, perhaps a feather under your pillow. thats also excellent advice, thankyou very much creative association. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25445131 United States 10/13/2012 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The more you bear your soul to me. Quoting: Open Your Eyes The more of my magic I can share with you. Lucifer is the Ultimate Magician. Why do you think the stars in Hollywood promise their allegiance and make bidding commitments to him. So he shares some of his essence with them. Lucifer Cares! you live a lie. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25445131 United States 10/13/2012 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The more you bear your soul to me. Quoting: Open Your Eyes The more of my magic I can share with you. douche magnifique. You will learn to understand after a few more incarnations. PS - I forgive you! forgiveness precludes judgement. keep it. :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25445131 United States 10/13/2012 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand things without the need of studying them. Quoting: Open Your Eyes So yes I understand how people are "programmed" is all facets of their life. However, I want to know what YOU are working on within yourself. So I can mirror the conversation with you more effectively. I can be your greatest sage. If you let your guard down and Open up. nice suggestive talk there.I dont believe you have any info on what im looking for and the rest is a ruse, no matter how "flattering" and polite your wording. You would be surprised what kinds of answers I can receive instantly if the intent of the recipient is pure. Lucifer enjoys helping humans evolve. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25445131 United States 10/13/2012 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you concentrate intensely on something right before you fall a sleep. I have done this and it works once in a while. The only time I really dream a lot is when I am under stress. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25214191 i do the kind of dreaming OP is asking about, constantly. this is called intention.:) i do it all the time, and always get my answer, like it or not. we have our own answers. dreams are the way. what was it writ upon the oracle of delphi...? google this: writings at the oracle of delphi |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25454833 Australia 10/13/2012 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you concentrate intensely on something right before you fall a sleep. I have done this and it works once in a while. The only time I really dream a lot is when I am under stress. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25214191 agreed this does work somewhat although sometimes there arew too many variants to effect what i actually dream.thankyou |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25474162 United States 10/13/2012 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you concentrate intensely on something right before you fall a sleep. I have done this and it works once in a while. The only time I really dream a lot is when I am under stress. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25214191 agreed this does work somewhat although sometimes there arew too many variants to effect what i actually dream.thankyou meh..... another thread gone dead. i have done nothing but follow my dreams...maybe it is time for me to speak. |
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