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amywood71605
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Friend had this on FB, in an argument with her about the answer. I say 20, right?
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she says 320 cause "Thats what the calculator says", but I'm guessing basic calculators don't use the order of operations rule.
"Live each day like it's your last, love like you've never been hurt, and dance like no one is watching."

GO PATS!!
:Go Patriots!:
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Friend had this on FB, in an argument with her about the answer. I say 20, right?
 Quoting: amywood71605


please excuse my dear aunt sally.
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Friend had this on FB, in an argument with her about the answer. I say 20, right?
 Quoting: amywood71605


You is correct.

Multiplication/division takes precedence over addition/subtraction.
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Friend had this on FB, in an argument with her about the answer. I say 20, right?
 Quoting: amywood71605


please excuse my dear aunt sally.
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exactly
"Live each day like it's your last, love like you've never been hurt, and dance like no one is watching."

GO PATS!!
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Windows scientific calculator says 20
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Friend had this on FB, in an argument with her about the answer. I say 20, right?
 Quoting: amywood71605


= 20. You don't even need the calculator.
(4x4) - (4x4) = 0
So you a are left with (4x4) +4 = 20

Elementary school knowledge in Russia.
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she says 320 cause "Thats what the calculator says", but I'm guessing basic calculators don't use the order of operations rule.
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20 is correct.
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320
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she says 320 cause "Thats what the calculator says", but I'm guessing basic calculators don't use the order of operations rule.
 Quoting: amywood71605


They do, but the equation is poorly written by someone intentionally attempting to make a mess of mathematical syntax so the calculator will be wrong. They're not foolproof.
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I got 360

There are no brackets in the original equasion. but i don't know, don't call me on it.
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It's Bush's fault.
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You just earned the dubious accomplishment of being smarter than your friend.
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4x4+4x4+4-4x4

=4x4-4x4+4x4+4 (just writing the equation in an other order, doesn't change anything as it is addition/substraction)

=0 +4x4+4 (because 4x4-x4x =0)

=16+4

=20
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Friend had this on FB, in an argument with her about the answer. I say 20, right?
 Quoting: amywood71605


Correct. Math requires that all multiplication and division be completed before the addition and subtraction of the resulting terms. If, however, just types in the formula from left to right, the calculator will have garbage in and will return garbage out.
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Friend had this on FB, in an argument with her about the answer. I say 20, right?
 Quoting: amywood71605


320

Last Edited by El Quisqueyano on 10/13/2012 10:03 AM
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Friend had this on FB, in an argument with her about the answer. I say 20, right?
 Quoting: amywood71605


Correct. Math requires that all multiplication and division be completed before the addition and subtraction of the resulting terms. If, however, just types in the formula from left to right, the calculator will have garbage in and will return garbage out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24988597


Which is why RPN (reverse polish notation) works much better in a calculator - you can feed anything in without having to use parenthesis.

In RPN, the data goes first, and the operation follows, with the result saved for use by the next operation that needs it. The OP's example would read like this in RPN:

4 4 * 4 4 * + 4 + 4 4 * -

HP makes calculators that work like this, and once you got used to it, it's much more flexible!
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(4x4)+(4x4)+4-(4x4)=

(16)+(16)+4-(16)=

32+4-16=20
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(4x4)+(4x4)+4-(4x4)=

(16)+(16)+4-(16)=

32+4-16=20
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4X4+4X4+4-4X4=
16+16+4-16= 20
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25311324


Oh shoot! slaphim There had to be one from UK. Did you go to school in Scotland, by any chance?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25311324


Oh shoot! slaphim There had to be one from UK. Did you go to school in Scotland, by any chance?
 Quoting: Merlin


No you always do the multiples first, treat them like they have brackets even if not there.
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This is very advanced stuff. Forth year university hear in the us. Kept classified until then.



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Friend had this on FB, in an argument with her about the answer. I say 20, right?
 Quoting: amywood71605


= 20. You don't even need the calculator.
(4x4) - (4x4) = 0
So you a are left with (4x4) +4 = 20

Elementary school knowledge in Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19710596
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I can do it in my head and it's 20.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25311324


Oh shoot! slaphim There had to be one from UK. Did you go to school in Scotland, by any chance?
 Quoting: Merlin


No you always do the multiples first, treat them like they have brackets even if not there.
 Quoting: alexisj9


I know that and you obviously do too, but our countryman, Anonymous Coward 25311324, clearly hasn't got a clue.

However, I apologise for the remark, aimed at AC, about going to school in Scotland. That was a little unnecessary, perhaps. Actually, they have some very fine schools in Scotland, even if they do, rather pretentiously, call them "Academies".
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Friend had this on FB, in an argument with her about the answer. I say 20, right?
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Good god we are doomed.
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Friend had this on FB, in an argument with her about the answer. I say 20, right?
 Quoting: amywood71605


You is correct.

Multiplication/division takes precedence over addition/subtraction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479268


yep
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forget the rest of the nonsense....they are tards!
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she says 320 cause "Thats what the calculator says", but I'm guessing basic calculators don't use the order of operations rule.
 Quoting: amywood71605


She says 320 because she is an idiot. Next!





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