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Who said PEOPLE should be FREE? if not for Christianity...
 Quoting: christian


People with innate good morals. It does not take ANY religion to be a decent human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094


WHO DETERMINES THOSE INNATE GOOD MORALS?

GOD OR MAN??


IT SURE WAS NOT

STALIN

MAO-SE TUNG

HITLER

MUSSOLINI

THE ROMAN AND GREEK EMPIRES....

SHARIA LAW

IRAN

NORTH KOREA

CHINA...

 Quoting: christian


What dont you get? Good morals are innate, a very young child can steal something and feel guilt, no one instilled that guilt in him, it just is. A young boy can hit another boy and cause pain, the former will feel "bad" that he made another person hurt. That feeling is inside every human with birth. It does not take religion to instill something that is already in us.

The people you listed HAD these innate morals, but at some point in THEIR life, they negated them to instead become bad humans. Lack of religion did not cause this, just as much as lack of religion did not keep me from being decent to other people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094



Are you kidding me??? Get Real...

A Child has no problem with telling a lie, unless he is taught that telling a lie is WRONG...

How many kids are Violent today? Obviously it is innate in them to be bullies or engage in School Shootings..

That is MORAL DECAY in a world that does not know GOD and HIS MORALITY...
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Who said PEOPLE should be FREE? if not for Christianity...
 Quoting: christian


People with innate good morals. It does not take ANY religion to be a decent human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094


WHO DETERMINES THOSE INNATE GOOD MORALS?

GOD OR MAN??


IT SURE WAS NOT

STALIN

MAO-SE TUNG

HITLER

MUSSOLINI

THE ROMAN AND GREEK EMPIRES....

SHARIA LAW

IRAN

NORTH KOREA

CHINA...

 Quoting: christian


There were good and moral people before
monotheistic religions.
20,000 years ago and before there were
good and moral people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25520860



WHO????

WHAT SOCIETIES????

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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 Quoting: christian


You are just too damn blind, close-minded, and indoctrinated to waste my time talking with.

Good bye.
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Because religion has been a tool to control people. The bible is full of contradictions and even has 2 origin stories of adam and eve ! You would have to be delusional to think "God" wrote a book or even inspired it. There is far more evidence for alien intervention than the bible and the sumerian texts even predate the jews book. The real value of a religion is that it gives people HOPE when there are no other sources of it, this doesnt mean it is real though.
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Who said PEOPLE should be FREE? if not for Christianity...
 Quoting: christian


People with innate good morals. It does not take ANY religion to be a decent human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094


WHO DETERMINES THOSE INNATE GOOD MORALS?

GOD OR MAN??


IT SURE WAS NOT

STALIN

MAO-SE TUNG

HITLER

MUSSOLINI

THE ROMAN AND GREEK EMPIRES....

SHARIA LAW

IRAN

NORTH KOREA

CHINA...

 Quoting: christian


Self determines morals. Rational thought by individuals.

Centralized power (who does not follow their own rules they give others) cannot determine my morals. When they tell me that my baby is going to hell because I didn't baptize him in time, while some child rapist can go to heaven because they repented and accepted Jesus as their savior, that doesn't make it true. It's certainly not my version of morality.
 Quoting: jcab2002



THAT IS ORGANIZED RELIGION...NOT THE WORD OF GOD...
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Who said PEOPLE should be FREE? if not for Christianity...
 Quoting: christian


People with innate good morals. It does not take ANY religion to be a decent human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094


WHO DETERMINES THOSE INNATE GOOD MORALS?

GOD OR MAN??


IT SURE WAS NOT

STALIN

MAO-SE TUNG

HITLER

MUSSOLINI

THE ROMAN AND GREEK EMPIRES....

SHARIA LAW

IRAN

NORTH KOREA

CHINA...

 Quoting: christian


Are you hysterical? No, Then why are you shouting (caps)?
 Quoting: NODOOM


Really Suzie
calm down
take several deep breaths
center yourself

and then GO INSIDE to see if what you are posting is true or not...

why are you so dang pushy? Just go inside, leave ego outside, and ask for the truth
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People with innate good morals. It does not take ANY religion to be a decent human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094


WHO DETERMINES THOSE INNATE GOOD MORALS?

GOD OR MAN??


IT SURE WAS NOT

STALIN

MAO-SE TUNG

HITLER

MUSSOLINI

THE ROMAN AND GREEK EMPIRES....

SHARIA LAW

IRAN

NORTH KOREA

CHINA...

 Quoting: christian


What dont you get? Good morals are innate, a very young child can steal something and feel guilt, no one instilled that guilt in him, it just is. A young boy can hit another boy and cause pain, the former will feel "bad" that he made another person hurt. That feeling is inside every human with birth. It does not take religion to instill something that is already in us.

The people you listed HAD these innate morals, but at some point in THEIR life, they negated them to instead become bad humans. Lack of religion did not cause this, just as much as lack of religion did not keep me from being decent to other people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094



Are you kidding me??? Get Real...

A Child has no problem with telling a lie, unless he is taught that telling a lie is WRONG...

How many kids are Violent today? Obviously it is innate in them to be bullies or engage in School Shootings..

That is MORAL DECAY in a world that does not know GOD and HIS MORALITY...
 Quoting: christian


Parents are able to teach kids morals even if they are atheists. The moral decay in the world is caused by an overbearing centralized government which takes responsibility away from parents. A truly free society would be moral because people as all mammals are born with parental instincts.

Religion contributes to this centralized power worship which is what is actually causing the moral decay!
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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I thought the people on GLP were awaken and not sheeple,but how can you claim to be awake and hate the Word of God.If you hate the Word of God you are a sheep,because the Word of God will guide you and make you awake.
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First off YOU just proved yourself a Lemming by using the term "sheeple", you follow the crowd to the point you can't even come up with a name on your own to separate yourself from the ones you disagree with!

Second "hate" so if people don't believe in the fairy tale they "HATE" it? I think the vast majority "hate" the biblethumpers that push it constantly not the work of fiction itself!

If you're going to point fingers and use terms trying to separate yourself from others makes sure you aren't one yourself first!!!




WISEONE??? AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS I needed some comedy gold for the day!
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Many of the people on sites like these are government agents and agents for the dark side. They are paid to try to turn people away from God's Word. People that hate the Word of God are brainwashed and cannot understand it, because in their hearts they hate God, so he does not reveal his secrets unto them. When people say that God is a ruthless tyrant because he caused or allowed women and children to be killed, they never show where in the Bible that is. The only time God commanded the Israelites to kill women and children is when they came upon the cities infested by giants, who were preserved from the flood, and were offspring of the watchers, or fallen angels. They were the cause for the first destruction of earth, the giants, or nephilim, and their fathers the watchers. They led men astray and taught them things they weren't supposed to find out, and men loved it so, so God destroyed the whole earth, save Noah and his sons. And the when the giants died, there went forth from their carcasses spirits which became demonic spirits, which are the same spirits leading mankind away to this day.

Be not concerned with the blind fools and paid agents on these sites that try to turn people away from their faith. They are completely lost and headed for destruction and condemnation, and they know it deep down, so they would just as soon take as many with them as they can. They have not been blessed with the spirit of God and the discernment necessary to tell truth from fiction, real history from made up lies. To hell with em.
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THEN!!!! You bump your own thread after 1 minute?????



LOW CLASS LEMMING BIBLETHUMPER!!!
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Christians were first, and horribly, targeted for persecution as a group by the emperor Nero in 64 AD. A colossal fire broke out at Rome, and destroyed much of the city. Rumors abounded that Nero himself was responsible. To divert attention from the rumors, Nero ordered that Christians should be rounded up and killed. Some were torn apart by dogs, others burnt alive as human torches. Over the next hundred years or so, Christians were sporadically persecuted. Then in the mid-third century, emperors initiated even more intensive persecutions. This, “The Great Persecution”, is considered the largest. Beginning with a series of four edicts banning Christian practices and ordering the imprisonment of Christian clergy, the persecution intensified until all Christians in the empire were commanded to sacrifice to the gods or face immediate execution. This persecution was to be the last, as Constantine I soon came into power and in 313 legalized Christianity.
 Quoting: Take That! 2562242


Uh huh, Nero is blamed for a lot, isn't he? I don't think he started the fire.


Persecution of Christians by Persians and Jews during Roman-Persian WarsAccording to Antiochus Strategos, a 7th century monk in Palestine, shortly after the Persian army entered Jerusalem in 614, unprecedented looting and sacrilege took place. Church after church was burned down alongside the innumerable Christian artifacts, which were stolen or damaged by the ensuing arson. Given that Khosrau II generally practiced religious tolerance and did deem Christians respectfully, it is not known why Shahrbaraz ordered such a massacre. One reason could simply have been Shahrbaraz's rage at the resistance that had been offered by Jerusalem's Christian populace. Accounts from early Christian chroniclers suggest that 26,000 Jewish rebels entered the streets of the city. Some Jerusalem Christians were taken captive, gathered together and murdered in mass by Jews. The Greek historian Antiochus Strategos writes that captive Christians were gathered near Mamilla reservoir and the Jews offered to help them escape death if they "become Jews and deny Christ". The Christian captives refused, and the Jews in anger had purchased the Christians from Persians and massacred them on spot. Antiochus writes: Then the Jews... as of old they bought the Lord from the Jews with silver, so they purchased Christians out of the reservoir; for they gave the Persians silver, and they bought a Christian and slew him like a sheep. According to Antiochus, the total Christian death toll was 66,509, of which 24,518 corpses were found at Mamilla, many more than were found anywhere else in the city. Other sources give a figure of 60,000 slain. The Jews destroyed the Christian churches and the monasteries, books were burnt and monks and priests killed. According to Israeli archeologists, there was no destruction of churches. A mass burial grave at Mamilla cave was discovered in 1989 by Israeli archeologist Ronny Reich.
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To hell with em.
 Quoting: jack of all trades


Classic. How's the view from atop Mt. Pious?

rolleyes
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Without the spread of Christianity..

There would of NEVER been a USA

Slavery would of NEVER ended

and we today would have NO freedom unless the KING of a NATION felt like giving it to us....

 Quoting: christian


That is so wrong I don't even know where to begin.

The world doesn't even worship God or Allah or whatever. They worship the people controlling their lives, while thinking they're worshiping God or Allah.

You don't need the church or government. You only need you.
 Quoting: jcab2002


Your words should be engraved in gold.

I have known the christ and that consciousness is not in a church.
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Many of the people on sites like these are government agents and agents for the dark side. They are paid to try to turn people away from God's Word. People that hate the Word of God are brainwashed and cannot understand it, because in their hearts they hate God, so he does not reveal his secrets unto them. When people say that God is a ruthless tyrant because he caused or allowed women and children to be killed, they never show where in the Bible that is. The only time God commanded the Israelites to kill women and children is when they came upon the cities infested by giants, who were preserved from the flood, and were offspring of the watchers, or fallen angels. They were the cause for the first destruction of earth, the giants, or nephilim, and their fathers the watchers. They led men astray and taught them things they weren't supposed to find out, and men loved it so, so God destroyed the whole earth, save Noah and his sons. And the when the giants died, there went forth from their carcasses spirits which became demonic spirits, which are the same spirits leading mankind away to this day.

Be not concerned with the blind fools and paid agents on these sites that try to turn people away from their faith. They are completely lost and headed for destruction and condemnation, and they know it deep down, so they would just as soon take as many with them as they can. They have not been blessed with the spirit of God and the discernment necessary to tell truth from fiction, real history from made up lies. To hell with em.
 Quoting: jack of all trades










A word from one of those paid government agents WE DON'T CARE if you believe in that crap just don't try to convert us!

THANKS!


For that matter I'm sure you could find something beside a conspiracy forum to push your drivel like a biblethumper forum.
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WHO DETERMINES THOSE INNATE GOOD MORALS?

GOD OR MAN??


IT SURE WAS NOT

STALIN

MAO-SE TUNG

HITLER

MUSSOLINI

THE ROMAN AND GREEK EMPIRES....

SHARIA LAW

IRAN

NORTH KOREA

CHINA...

 Quoting: christian


What dont you get? Good morals are innate, a very young child can steal something and feel guilt, no one instilled that guilt in him, it just is. A young boy can hit another boy and cause pain, the former will feel "bad" that he made another person hurt. That feeling is inside every human with birth. It does not take religion to instill something that is already in us.

The people you listed HAD these innate morals, but at some point in THEIR life, they negated them to instead become bad humans. Lack of religion did not cause this, just as much as lack of religion did not keep me from being decent to other people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094



Are you kidding me??? Get Real...

A Child has no problem with telling a lie, unless he is taught that telling a lie is WRONG...

How many kids are Violent today? Obviously it is innate in them to be bullies or engage in School Shootings..

That is MORAL DECAY in a world that does not know GOD and HIS MORALITY...
 Quoting: christian


Parents are able to teach kids morals even if they are atheists. The moral decay in the world is caused by an overbearing centralized government which takes responsibility away from parents. A truly free society would be moral because people as all mammals are born with parental instincts.

Religion contributes to this centralized power worship which is what is actually causing the moral decay!
 Quoting: jcab2002


You said:

A truly free society would be moral because people as all mammals are born with parental instincts.

Who determines what is MORAL in a Free Society???

Do you have any examples of that?

Some mammals kill and eat there offspring..

Today you have Kids killing parents brutally and parents murdering there kids in record numbers in addition to gazillion of abortions...

and you are WRONG...Many people have children with NO PARENTAL INSTINCTS....


You are looking at MORALITY through ONE Rose Colored Lense...Your own.....

MORALITY is given not by one individual person, group, nation or Leader...

It is GIVEN in the WORD OF GOD FROM DAY ONE UNTIL THE END OF TIME..

The 10 Commandments have NO EXPIRATION DATE.....

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Without the spread of Christianity..

There would of NEVER been a USA

Slavery would of NEVER ended

and we today would have NO freedom unless the KING of a NATION felt like giving it to us....

 Quoting: christian


That is so wrong I don't even know where to begin.

The world doesn't even worship God or Allah or whatever. They worship the people controlling their lives, while thinking they're worshiping God or Allah.

You don't need the church or government. You only need you.
 Quoting: jcab2002


Your words should be engraved in gold.

I have known the christ and that consciousness is not in a church.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12042051


Thank you, that is very kind.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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People with innate good morals. It does not take ANY religion to be a decent human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094


WHO DETERMINES THOSE INNATE GOOD MORALS?

GOD OR MAN??


IT SURE WAS NOT

STALIN

MAO-SE TUNG

HITLER

MUSSOLINI

THE ROMAN AND GREEK EMPIRES....

SHARIA LAW

IRAN

NORTH KOREA

CHINA...

 Quoting: christian


Are you hysterical? No, Then why are you shouting (caps)?
 Quoting: NODOOM


Really Suzie
calm down
take several deep breaths
center yourself

and then GO INSIDE to see if what you are posting is true or not...

why are you so dang pushy? Just go inside, leave ego outside, and ask for the truth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827087


Not pushy..

NO EGO (EDGING GOD OUT)

Maybe a bit frustrated people really do not understand history and look at things from a society that has dumbed them down to who truly GOD is and the freedom of living in a Godly Moral Society....
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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What dont you get? Good morals are innate, a very young child can steal something and feel guilt, no one instilled that guilt in him, it just is. A young boy can hit another boy and cause pain, the former will feel "bad" that he made another person hurt. That feeling is inside every human with birth. It does not take religion to instill something that is already in us.

The people you listed HAD these innate morals, but at some point in THEIR life, they negated them to instead become bad humans. Lack of religion did not cause this, just as much as lack of religion did not keep me from being decent to other people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094



Are you kidding me??? Get Real...

A Child has no problem with telling a lie, unless he is taught that telling a lie is WRONG...

How many kids are Violent today? Obviously it is innate in them to be bullies or engage in School Shootings..

That is MORAL DECAY in a world that does not know GOD and HIS MORALITY...
 Quoting: christian


Parents are able to teach kids morals even if they are atheists. The moral decay in the world is caused by an overbearing centralized government which takes responsibility away from parents. A truly free society would be moral because people as all mammals are born with parental instincts.

Religion contributes to this centralized power worship which is what is actually causing the moral decay!
 Quoting: jcab2002


You said:

A truly free society would be moral because people as all mammals are born with parental instincts.

Who determines what is MORAL in a Free Society???

Do you have any examples of that?

Some mammals kill and eat there offspring..

Today you have Kids killing parents brutally and parents murdering there kids in record numbers in addition to gazillion of abortions...

and you are WRONG...Many people have children with NO PARENTAL INSTINCTS....


You are looking at MORALITY through ONE Rose Colored Lense...Your own.....

MORALITY is given not by one individual person, group, nation or Leader...

It is GIVEN in the WORD OF GOD FROM DAY ONE UNTIL THE END OF TIME..

The 10 Commandments have NO EXPIRATION DATE.....

 Quoting: christian


I said you are born with parental instincts. Centralized power which takes responsibility away from people removes these instincts.

I can easily define morality with one rule. Do not harm others. That covers all 10 commandments. You don't need to believe in what you think is the word of god to believe in not harming others. You don't have a monopoly on morality. I am moral and I don't believe in the bible. I do believe in divinity that I'm finding on a personal level.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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Are you kidding me??? Get Real...

A Child has no problem with telling a lie, unless he is taught that telling a lie is WRONG...

How many kids are Violent today? Obviously it is innate in them to be bullies or engage in School Shootings..

That is MORAL DECAY in a world that does not know GOD and HIS MORALITY...
 Quoting: christian


Parents are able to teach kids morals even if they are atheists. The moral decay in the world is caused by an overbearing centralized government which takes responsibility away from parents. A truly free society would be moral because people as all mammals are born with parental instincts.

Religion contributes to this centralized power worship which is what is actually causing the moral decay!
 Quoting: jcab2002


You said:

A truly free society would be moral because people as all mammals are born with parental instincts.

Who determines what is MORAL in a Free Society???

Do you have any examples of that?

Some mammals kill and eat there offspring..

Today you have Kids killing parents brutally and parents murdering there kids in record numbers in addition to gazillion of abortions...

and you are WRONG...Many people have children with NO PARENTAL INSTINCTS....


You are looking at MORALITY through ONE Rose Colored Lense...Your own.....

MORALITY is given not by one individual person, group, nation or Leader...

It is GIVEN in the WORD OF GOD FROM DAY ONE UNTIL THE END OF TIME..

The 10 Commandments have NO EXPIRATION DATE.....

 Quoting: christian


I said you are born with parental instincts. Centralized power which takes responsibility away from people removes these instincts.

I can easily define morality with one rule. Do not harm others. That covers all 10 commandments. You don't need to believe in what you think is the word of god to believe in not harming others. You don't have a monopoly on morality. I am moral and I don't believe in the bible. I do believe in divinity that I'm finding on a personal level.
 Quoting: jcab2002




Well I do hope the Holy Spirit leads you to truth....

Only GOD can change your heart, no one else....
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Parents are able to teach kids morals even if they are atheists. The moral decay in the world is caused by an overbearing centralized government which takes responsibility away from parents. A truly free society would be moral because people as all mammals are born with parental instincts.

Religion contributes to this centralized power worship which is what is actually causing the moral decay!
 Quoting: jcab2002


You said:

A truly free society would be moral because people as all mammals are born with parental instincts.

Who determines what is MORAL in a Free Society???

Do you have any examples of that?

Some mammals kill and eat there offspring..

Today you have Kids killing parents brutally and parents murdering there kids in record numbers in addition to gazillion of abortions...

and you are WRONG...Many people have children with NO PARENTAL INSTINCTS....


You are looking at MORALITY through ONE Rose Colored Lense...Your own.....

MORALITY is given not by one individual person, group, nation or Leader...

It is GIVEN in the WORD OF GOD FROM DAY ONE UNTIL THE END OF TIME..

The 10 Commandments have NO EXPIRATION DATE.....

 Quoting: christian


I said you are born with parental instincts. Centralized power which takes responsibility away from people removes these instincts.

I can easily define morality with one rule. Do not harm others. That covers all 10 commandments. You don't need to believe in what you think is the word of god to believe in not harming others. You don't have a monopoly on morality. I am moral and I don't believe in the bible. I do believe in divinity that I'm finding on a personal level.
 Quoting: jcab2002




Well I do hope the Holy Spirit leads you to truth....

Only GOD can change your heart, no one else....
 Quoting: christian


If you're right, it'll be done without the bible, which is what I actually believe is the true message of Jesus and the answer to the question this thread brought up.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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because many people think the idea that eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions god's infinite love is silly.

because many people were raised in authoritarian religious sects & thru personal experience have come to their own conclusions about the nature of reality that differ from what they were taught to believe.

because many people use the bible as a tool to get people to submit to them in the name of their "higher power".

because it's been polluted by the myriad of conflicting fevered ego's who claim to follow it & it's easier to have a conversation about your personal experiences with reality by excluding it & all the baggage that comes with it.
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I don't hate the bible. I think it's great entertainment. It's really just a spellbook for christian sorcerers.
It's chock full of magic when you look at it. Miracles are spells, pure and simple. People who claim to heal in the name of jesus are just practising a different kind of magic.
Everything about it seems magical so I say it's one of the most powerful spellbooks around.
Just look at how many people are 'spellbound' by it :-)
Abracadabra!
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Only GOD can change your heart, no one else....
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Then for heaven's sake *why* do so many of you go around demanding that unbelievers change their own hearts?
Unfortunately, we christian zealots generally order them to conjure up faith from their own willpower, as if people can simply snap their fingers and make it so.

If the "natural man cannot grasp spiritual things", why do christians still expect them to, and bang away trying to make it happen? That's carnal idiocy, and that's why people can't stand us.
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because many people think the idea that eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions god's infinite love is silly.

because many people were raised in authoritarian religious sects & thru personal experience have come to their own conclusions about the nature of reality that differ from what they were taught to believe.

because many people use the bible as a tool to get people to submit to them in the name of their "higher power".

because it's been polluted by the myriad of conflicting fevered ego's who claim to follow it & it's easier to have a conversation about your personal experiences with reality by excluding it & all the baggage that comes with it.
 Quoting: metaball


Absolutely. People just don't like being manipulated, and unfortunately manipulative efforts are the only thing most christians have to offer.
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Only GOD can change your heart, no one else....
 Quoting: christian


Then for heaven's sake *why* do so many of you go around demanding that unbelievers change their own hearts?
Unfortunately, we christian zealots generally order them to conjure up faith from their own willpower, as if people can simply snap their fingers and make it so.

If the "natural man cannot grasp spiritual things", why do christians still expect them to, and bang away trying to make it happen? That's carnal idiocy, and that's why people can't stand us.
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Christians are to plant the seeds


GOD grows the seeds...
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Only GOD can change your heart, no one else....
 Quoting: christian


Then for heaven's sake *why* do so many of you go around demanding that unbelievers change their own hearts?
Unfortunately, we christian zealots generally order them to conjure up faith from their own willpower, as if people can simply snap their fingers and make it so.

If the "natural man cannot grasp spiritual things", why do christians still expect them to, and bang away trying to make it happen? That's carnal idiocy, and that's why people can't stand us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


That's the way I see it too. I can't force something that isn't there just because people are screaming at me that I have to do something. In fact I resist it even more. I'm stubborn.

And I also don't know how if there is a god, who gave me free will and an independent and inquisitive mind and never convinced me to worship him that he'd punish me eternally for it.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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I don't hate the bible. I think it's great entertainment. It's really just a spellbook for christian sorcerers.
It's chock full of magic when you look at it. Miracles are spells, pure and simple. People who claim to heal in the name of jesus are just practising a different kind of magic.
Everything about it seems magical so I say it's one of the most powerful spellbooks around.
Just look at how many people are 'spellbound' by it :-)
Abracadabra!
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I knew an evangelist who would try to goad people into saying "Thank you, Jesus" because he was convinced that if they just mouthed it, it would legally allow God's foot in their proverbial door. How jacked up is that?

sigh
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Only GOD can change your heart, no one else....
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Then for heaven's sake *why* do so many of you go around demanding that unbelievers change their own hearts?
Unfortunately, we christian zealots generally order them to conjure up faith from their own willpower, as if people can simply snap their fingers and make it so.

If the "natural man cannot grasp spiritual things", why do christians still expect them to, and bang away trying to make it happen? That's carnal idiocy, and that's why people can't stand us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Christians are to plant the seeds


GOD grows the seeds...
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And like I said yesterday: let's take a poll on how many GLPers have never been told "Jesus loves you". You think the seeds aren't already in the ground pretty thoroughly?
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If you never bother answering the door when it knocks, you will never know who was out there....Eternity awaits if you answer....
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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And I also don't know how if there is a god, who gave me free will and an independent and inquisitive mind and never convinced me to worship him that he'd punish me eternally for it.
 Quoting: jcab2002


Indeed - it's simple common sense. Love never fails, and God will have no need to dispose of anyone.





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