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Only GOD can change your heart, no one else....
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Then for heaven's sake *why* do so many of you go around demanding that unbelievers change their own hearts?
Unfortunately, we christian zealots generally order them to conjure up faith from their own willpower, as if people can simply snap their fingers and make it so.

If the "natural man cannot grasp spiritual things", why do christians still expect them to, and bang away trying to make it happen? That's carnal idiocy, and that's why people can't stand us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Christians are to plant the seeds


GOD grows the seeds...
 Quoting: christian


And like I said yesterday: let's take a poll on how many GLPers have never been told "Jesus loves you". You think the seeds aren't already in the ground pretty thoroughly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578



Many seeds on GLP are on top of the dirt..


Many seeds are still not in the dirt...

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If you never bother answering the door when it knocks, you will never know who was out there....Eternity awaits if you answer....
 Quoting: christian


You know the verse in Revelation 3 where Jesus says I stand at the door and knock? That was a letter to the churches, not to the lost heathen of the world.

The bottom line is that Christians are out to save us from their vengeful volcano god, because they don't know Him as Father, but as a bi-polar pyromaniac.
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I thought the people on GLP were awaken and not sheeple,but how can you claim to be awake and hate the Word of God.If you hate the Word of God you are a sheep,because the Word of God will guide you and make you awake.
 Quoting: TheWiseOne


Read this part, and tell me what I'm supposed to be learning from it.

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

God seems like a bit of a whacko to me.
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If you never bother answering the door when it knocks, you will never know who was out there....Eternity awaits if you answer....
 Quoting: christian


You know the verse in Revelation 3 where Jesus says I stand at the door and knock? That was a letter to the churches, not to the lost heathen of the world.

The bottom line is that Christians are out to save us from their vengeful volcano god, because they don't know Him as Father, but as a bi-polar pyromaniac.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


only the wicked will continue to be wicked...

It is for the sheep that have lost there way....

Abba knows only his children....He answers to them...
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For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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Then for heaven's sake *why* do so many of you go around demanding that unbelievers change their own hearts?
Unfortunately, we christian zealots generally order them to conjure up faith from their own willpower, as if people can simply snap their fingers and make it so.

If the "natural man cannot grasp spiritual things", why do christians still expect them to, and bang away trying to make it happen? That's carnal idiocy, and that's why people can't stand us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Christians are to plant the seeds


GOD grows the seeds...
 Quoting: christian


And like I said yesterday: let's take a poll on how many GLPers have never been told "Jesus loves you". You think the seeds aren't already in the ground pretty thoroughly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578



Many seeds on GLP are on top of the dirt..


Many seeds are still not in the dirt...

 Quoting: christian


What's more is that in the parable of the Sower, 3/4 of those soil types were believers - they received the seed. The stony ground and the thorny ground are christians. But only the good soil produced the fruit.

Eye-opening stuff, don't you think?
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Christians are to plant the seeds


GOD grows the seeds...
 Quoting: christian


And like I said yesterday: let's take a poll on how many GLPers have never been told "Jesus loves you". You think the seeds aren't already in the ground pretty thoroughly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578



Many seeds on GLP are on top of the dirt..


Many seeds are still not in the dirt...

 Quoting: christian


What's more is that in the parable of the Sower, 3/4 of those soil types were believers - they received the seed. The stony ground and the thorny ground are christians. But only the good soil produced the fruit.

Eye-opening stuff, don't you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Here ya go....



On the same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the sea. 2 And great multitudes were gathered to Him, so that He got into a boat and sat down; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.

3 Then He spoke many things to them in parables, saying: “Behold, a sower went out to sow. 4 And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the birds came and devoured them. 5 Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth; they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth. 6 But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up and choked them. 8 But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. 9 He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

10 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do you speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,

and seeing you will see and not perceive; 15
for the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
and their eyes they have closed,
lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
so that I should heal them.’

16 But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear; 17
or assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
Susie

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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Christians are to plant the seeds


GOD grows the seeds...
 Quoting: christian


"The beauty of your plan, seems to rest on everyone being really into seeds." - The Young Ones



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They do not like what it says. Like most people.. They do not like that N word in their vocabulary. " NO"

They do not want boundaries, rules, or anything that keeps them from doing anything and everything.They do not want laws, policemen; judge or jury to hold them accountable.

Easy. No GOD. No Bible.. No laws. Problem solved... in their minds. If they demean it or ridicule it.. and they do not drop dead.... it does not exist.
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They do not like what it says. Like most people.. They do not like that N word in their vocabulary. " NO"

They do not want boundaries, rules, or anything that keeps them from doing anything and everything.They do not want laws, policemen; judge or jury to hold them accountable.

Easy. No GOD. No Bible.. No laws. Problem solved... in their minds. If they demean it or ridicule it.. and they do not drop dead.... it does not exist.
 Quoting: NightWisp


So I take it you're among the Saints who are convinced that the common folks of society are all heathen evildoers teetering on the verge of wanton savagery run amok, yes?
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They do not like what it says. Like most people.. They do not like that N word in their vocabulary. " NO"

They do not want boundaries, rules, or anything that keeps them from doing anything and everything.They do not want laws, policemen; judge or jury to hold them accountable.

Easy. No GOD. No Bible.. No laws. Problem solved... in their minds. If they demean it or ridicule it.. and they do not drop dead.... it does not exist.
 Quoting: NightWisp


Everything is absolute, huh? There are no non-religious people who live moral lives and there are no religious people who live immoral lives. Ha.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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Everything is absolute, huh? There are no non-religious people who live moral lives and there are no religious people who live immoral lives. Ha.
 Quoting: jcab2002


What? You mean Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Jones, etc etc, were NOT upstanding Chrisitians?
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They do not like what it says. Like most people.. They do not like that N word in their vocabulary. " NO"

They do not want boundaries, rules, or anything that keeps them from doing anything and everything.They do not want laws, policemen; judge or jury to hold them accountable.

Easy. No GOD. No Bible.. No laws. Problem solved... in their minds. If they demean it or ridicule it.. and they do not drop dead.... it does not exist.
 Quoting: NightWisp


Everything is absolute, huh? There are no non-religious people who live moral lives and there are no religious people who live immoral lives. Ha.
 Quoting: jcab2002


Yes there are....

GOD judges the heart, which only he can do....

However as a witness to the truth of Jesus Christ we must remember his words:


JOHN 14:6

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Everything is absolute, huh? There are no non-religious people who live moral lives and there are no religious people who live immoral lives. Ha.
 Quoting: jcab2002


What? You mean Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Jones, etc etc, were NOT upstanding Chrisitians?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094


Christopher Hitchens never acknowledged GOD when he was alive or on his deathbed....

When his body and spirit seperated..GOD will judge his heart in spirit and soul and that will determine his eternal destiny....

John 14:6

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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And whos to blame them? They are tought to judge and hate.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix



The Christian churches have been infiltrated and corrupted by jesuits and others...

this is well-documented...

has nothing to do with the importance of Christ's teachings...

:)

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We live in a money based society. The rulers are the bankers.
If we lived in a Resource society then we would see the truth.
As someone already said, religion keeps the masses (sheeple) under control.
That is why all societies have some form of religion! Fear is such a good way of control. Religion is Fear. Religion teaches you to fear God and obey the commandments and teachings of God. The only seed planted was the seed of compliance.
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Everything is absolute, huh? There are no non-religious people who live moral lives and there are no religious people who live immoral lives. Ha.
 Quoting: jcab2002


What? You mean Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Jones, etc etc, were NOT upstanding Chrisitians?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094


Christopher Hitchens never acknowledged GOD when he was alive or on his deathbed....

When his body and spirit seperated..GOD will judge his heart in spirit and soul and that will determine his eternal destiny....

John 14:6

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

 Quoting: christian


And someone raised by wolves in a cave will die never knowing that Jesus existed and burn in hell for eternity.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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The only seed planted was the seed of compliance.
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I like that statement. Akin to the sci-fi Borg - they have all been assimilated into drones.
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I thought the people on GLP were awaken and not sheeple,but how can you claim to be awake and hate the Word of God.If you hate the Word of God you are a sheep,because the Word of God will guide you and make you awake.
 Quoting: TheWiseOne


A word to the wise... Only about 2.5% of the population is making it to sainthood right now. Factor in the Churches and that's about 1 out of every 15 in church.

The problem is nobody is searching out God.
God knows you.
You don't know God.

This is inherantly dangerous.
When God chooses to forget you then...
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And someone raised by wolves in a cave will die never knowing that Jesus existed and burn in hell for eternity.
 Quoting: jcab2002


No. Thread: Spiritual "Prepper" Instructions

God holds people responsible for what they could know or grasp.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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I don't hate the bible. I think it's great entertainment. It's really just a spellbook for christian sorcerers.
It's chock full of magic when you look at it. Miracles are spells, pure and simple. People who claim to heal in the name of jesus are just practising a different kind of magic.
Everything about it seems magical so I say it's one of the most powerful spellbooks around.
Just look at how many people are 'spellbound' by it :-)
Abracadabra!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4064145



The BIG difference is that Christ taught to love God and live our brothers and sisters... not use this knowledge for personal gain at the expense of others...

and Christ washed the feet of His disciples and told them no servant is greater than their master to explain why!

sorcerers here are satanic and use supernatural/demon spirits to gain power...

this too, is well-documented and has a cost: your soul!

:)

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We live in a money based society. The rulers are the bankers.
If we lived in a Resource society then we would see the truth.
As someone already said, religion keeps the masses (sheeple) under control.
That is why all societies have some form of religion! Fear is such a good way of control. Religion is Fear. Religion teaches you to fear God and obey the commandments and teachings of God. The only seed planted was the seed of compliance.
 Quoting: NODOOM


Agreed.

People are brainwashed to worship the church which in turn makes it easy for them to worship the state. They work hand in hand. The only thing anyone needs is self. If we evolved to this point the problems of the world would disappear.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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And someone raised by wolves in a cave will die never knowing that Jesus existed and burn in hell for eternity.
 Quoting: jcab2002


No. Thread: Spiritual "Prepper" Instructions

God holds people responsible for what they could know or grasp.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Why isn't your book in the bible?
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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If people out there in the world are so very horribly wicked, why don't we Jebus-freaks simply *forgive* them, per John 20:23? It couldn't turn out any worse than any of our other techniques.
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Everything is absolute, huh? There are no non-religious people who live moral lives and there are no religious people who live immoral lives. Ha.
 Quoting: jcab2002


What? You mean Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Jones, etc etc, were NOT upstanding Chrisitians?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25827094


Christopher Hitchens never acknowledged GOD when he was alive or on his deathbed....

When his body and spirit seperated..GOD will judge his heart in spirit and soul and that will determine his eternal destiny....

John 14:6

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

 Quoting: christian


And someone raised by wolves in a cave will die never knowing that Jesus existed and burn in hell for eternity.
 Quoting: jcab2002



No not at all...

Have you heard the testimony of Atheist Howard Storm and how GOD brought him back in a NDE conversion?

[link to www.youtube.com]


He experienced death in June '85. This 1998 documentary on him is a true story.
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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God holds people responsible for what they could know or grasp.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


This is precisely why christians are first in line for judgment. This exactly why we as a faction are worse than anyone. Psalms says "the wicked are estranged form the womb". . .but what's *our* excuse?
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because many people think the idea that eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions god's infinite love is silly.

because many people were raised in authoritarian religious sects & thru personal experience have come to their own conclusions about the nature of reality that differ from what they were taught to believe.

because many people use the bible as a tool to get people to submit to them in the name of their "higher power".

because it's been polluted by the myriad of conflicting fevered ego's who claim to follow it & it's easier to have a conversation about your personal experiences with reality by excluding it & all the baggage that comes with it.
 Quoting: metaball


NOT if you consider that lucifer was made perfect and chose to rebel...

if you were the Creator and your free-will creations had this potential flaw, you might set up a system to contain and allow you to choose the wheat from the weeds....

Creation, as any gardener and beekeeper knows, has a destructive aspect...

but is worth it, from a divine point of view...

even if you think of spirit as just energy, the system makes sense...

we can choose Christ-centered blue-print and have an amazing reality globally...

Loving God and each other...

:)

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God holds people responsible for what they could know or grasp.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


This is precisely why christians are first in line for judgment. This exactly why we as a faction are worse than anyone. Psalms says "the wicked are estranged form the womb". . .but what's *our* excuse?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Exactly..

GOD said we do not want to walk smelling like Woodhay and Stuble...Only cared about our own salvation....
Susie

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God holds people responsible for what they could know or grasp.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


This is precisely why christians are first in line for judgment. This exactly why we as a faction are worse than anyone. Psalms says "the wicked are estranged form the womb". . .but what's *our* excuse?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578



The church is corrupted by non-Christ-centered jesuits and satanists, etc

this is well-documented...

it seems important to be aware of this and make a distinction...

:)

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If people out there in the world are so very horribly wicked, why don't we Jebus-freaks simply *forgive* them, per John 20:23? It couldn't turn out any worse than any of our other techniques.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578



Truly Christ-centered people are loving and compassionate...

not perfect, but not judgmental to the best of their ability...

those who do not live by Christ's standard are not Christians, IMO

their is a bigger supernatural picture to this...

:)

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8. And now I show unto you that light and darkness, day and night, see all your sins. 9. Be not godless in your hearts, and lie not and alter not the words of uprightness, nor charge with lying the words of the Holy Great One, nor take account of your idols; for all your lying and all your godlessness issue not in righteousness but in great sin. 10. And now I know this mystery, that sinners will alter and pervert the words of righteousness in many ways, and will speak wicked words, and lie, and practice great deceits, and write books concerning their words. 11. But when they write down truthfully all my words in their languages, and do not change or minish ought from my words but write them all down truthfully--all that I first testified concerning them. 12. Then, I know another mystery, that books will be given to the righteous and the wise to become a cause of joy and uprightness and much wisdom. 13. And to them shall the books be given, and they shall believe in them and rejoice over them, and then shall all the righteous who have learnt therefrom all the paths of uprightness be recompensed.'





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