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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18968393 United States 11/07/2012 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4613981 United States 11/07/2012 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | regardless who's in the whitehouse, any employer who treats his/her employees as no more than a statistical detail to measure against profit is a dick. these are people. with families and lives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27250005 Tough SHIT . Dont like it, hit the road. There are 30 people licking their chops for your job. We are in business, took risks,loans out the ass for the American dream ! My dream and i'll be damned if the Government is gonna tell me I have to insure people that are a dime a dozen. |
Kootsweet User ID: 26631765 United States 11/07/2012 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. Health care isn't free,they take a big chunk out of our checks to cover our insurance, nothing is free unless your on welfare. Kootsweet |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25646201 United States 11/07/2012 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. Health care isn't free,they take a big chunk out of our checks to cover our insurance, nothing is free unless your on welfare. u forgot this side of the coin, if there was jobs here there would be little or no need for welfare. mind the banks got the biggest handout in history trillions dollars. |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 13043121 United States 11/07/2012 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its mandatory here for a employee to work min 48 hours/week (IT sector)... 30 hrs a week is unimaginable ... good luck Quoting: GMarq Not mandatory here. I can have all part time employees if I choose. If they try to change that I will just fire everyone and close shop. Or move my business to the Bahamas. I am not alone in this thinking. .......and most of the clowns that you're gonna fire are Obamatards. There should be no "most" about it. ALL the departing employees MUST be Obamatards, at least for the first wave. Hopefully there won't need to be a second wave. I read a post a while back, the poster was being forced to lay off some of his workers. He went out into the parking lot, and all of the cars that had Obama stickers on them ended up belonging to the people he laid off. They are the dingbats who voted to put these mandates into place, and yet they expect to avoid their negative consequences. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1405546 United States 11/07/2012 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm going to still work my 40 hours a week. I have yet to hear any of this being mentioned at work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18968393 If I was to work 30 hours a week I would be so far behind,especially around the holidays. I dont expect it to happen over night. Otherwise people become hip. But I do expect the trend to continue for the next few months. As employers hire, they weight the option of available hours. If their employee worked 30 hrs, they owe them their pay. If that same employee worked 35 hours, NOW the employer needs to pay health care AND their pay rate. Which is a drastic change in profit. The 30 hrs line will not be breached unless you are REALLY needed (rare). Eventually, people will be working less hours PER job. And people will pick up more jobs over time to make up the lost income. That or the spouse works too, or uncles, etc. The limits will be pushed for profits. Now this person has to work 2 jobs at 30 hrs/wk each. Basically making people work harder with out over time pay. Because now that person is working 60 hrs/wk w/o overtime. As long as the jobs growth looks good, it will be easy for Obamas socialistic empire to grow. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18968393 United States 11/07/2012 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm going to still work my 40 hours a week. I have yet to hear any of this being mentioned at work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18968393 If I was to work 30 hours a week I would be so far behind,especially around the holidays. I dont expect it to happen over night. Otherwise people become hip. But I do expect the trend to continue for the next few months. As employers hire, they weight the option of available hours. If their employee worked 30 hrs, they owe them their pay. If that same employee worked 35 hours, NOW the employer needs to pay health care AND their pay rate. Which is a drastic change in profit. The 30 hrs line will not be breached unless you are REALLY needed (rare). Eventually, people will be working less hours PER job. And people will pick up more jobs over time to make up the lost income. That or the spouse works too, or uncles, etc. The limits will be pushed for profits. Now this person has to work 2 jobs at 30 hrs/wk each. Basically making people work harder with out over time pay. Because now that person is working 60 hrs/wk w/o overtime. As long as the jobs growth looks good, it will be easy for Obamas socialistic empire to grow. This part is good to know. I do 3 jobs where I work at and it doesn't get done right unless I do it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16098716 Canada 11/07/2012 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This entire thread looks and sounds like whining Bull$shit. Grow up. If you are a professional you always are in demand. If you are an owner of business that actually produces things that are NEEDED, you are going to be just fine. Whiners, go do something productive instead of dicking around at GLP, spitting tears and sheit about your miserable boring lives. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14324050 United States 11/07/2012 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People will work more for less, out of necessity. All the trolls that seem to be rejoicing about this on here, I wonder why? What is bad for business and the individual worker, will be bad for the trollers as well. They must have the misery loves company syndrome. Take note, we as Americans don't know real third world poverty. A blow to the knees that takes America down on its haunches, will cripple the rest of the world along with it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16098716 Canada 11/07/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...A blow to the knees that takes America down on its haunches, will cripple the rest of the world along with it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14324050 The only difference that rest of the world already lives for less. Only american whiners whining about iPhones and loss of jobs that pay for these stupid iPhones. Pathetic. |
thadividedsky User ID: 26857841 United States 11/07/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I must be lucky because all summer long I worked overtime, 10 hours a day plus 8 hours on saturdays so we could catch up. The only way my company will be hurt is if we go back to horse and buggy and bicycles. As long as there are cars, my company will have customers because cars do break down and we supply the replacement parts. I have also been cross trained to work in every department, I don't understand why so many people shy away from being cross trained. The deal with my company is new hires work 37 1/2 hours, are not allowed to do overtime and we don't hire walk-ins. We get temps and the ones who work hard and show up on time every day get hired. I luckily started before the 37 1/2 hour policy was implemented, get 40 hours, vacation, personal days and dibs on overtime. We have a high turn over rate because it's a high paced environment with a lot of heavy lifting and manual labor. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4613981 United States 11/07/2012 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. Well just make sure you increase the wage per hour and everything will be OK. You could pay exactly the same amount of weekly salary by doing this conversion. Now 30 hours is not a good number, you must decrease the hours to 24 hours a week. Foe example: 40 hours at $10 per hour = $400 a week 24 hours at $16.67 per hour = $400 a week 24 hours a week is mentally and physically healthy for the people, specially if they have children. But to be fair if you cut hours you have to increase the wage. Otherwise the government will crush your company. You lil buddy are delusional. NO RAISE, NO BONUS, 30 HRS and out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10957384 United States 11/07/2012 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently got a job at a steel casting foundry in Wa state and they made all the new hires sign a paper that they agreed that they were 30 hour a week employees. You would get 40+ hours a week if you signed the paper and only 30 if you refused. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3643010 See what I mean, employers don't care about your health. Finally we have an affordable system and they don't even want that for you. Employers should be doing back flips now that they can provide healthcare for their employees. NOT! Bullshit. I'm a small business owner with 23 employees. They have a dental plan that is unbeatable (i pay for all non-cosmetic work), and health insurance. I clear roughly $60k a year and I work 60 hours a week. To say I don't care is an insult. Be more specific when calling out employers. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24957083 United States 11/07/2012 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. I've already considered it. This is what they do in Europe and now this is what's going to be done in the states. We'll also develop a black market employment just like in Europe. This reality is like straight out of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shurgged book. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4613981 United States 11/07/2012 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol , You bet your ass I will once obamacare kicks in. As I said, employee's will be working a max. 25-30 week. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4613981 Pssst.... Einstein , Once I cut everyone's hours I sure will. No raises, No bonus, No benifits. Welcome to obamanation You'll get all the kick-ass employees who can't spell benefits. They dont need a brain LOL. Just do what I say and you will still have your job tomorrow, maybe |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1291555 United States 11/07/2012 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol , You bet your ass I will once obamacare kicks in. As I said, employee's will be working a max. 25-30 week. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4613981 Pssst.... Einstein , Once I cut everyone's hours I sure will. No raises, No bonus, No benifits. Welcome to obamanation You'll get all the kick-ass employees who can't spell benefits. They dont need a brain LOL. Just do what I say and you will still have your job tomorrow, maybe It's actually already happening, at least in places like food and retail |
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CurbSide User ID: 27070163 United States 11/30/2012 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reform is actually going to make it cheaper for companies to provide insurance. it is not going to cost them. If you find information otherwise on a RELIABLE source i would be interested......But all RELIABLE sources right now are saying pretty much that the companies that cut hours are only making mistakes that they were warned would hurt them and to me at that point it is their own dumb fault. They will loose their employees and be stuck trying to find people who want to work for a company that doesn't offer full time. They will then be forced to go back to offering 40 hour weeks to be able to get employees! So lets be smart about our choices here! Quoting: YAS 28724457 You have got to be kidding me. Pure ignorance. You have obviously never been even close to a management or ownership position. If you want "RELIABLE" sources just look around at all the Big and Small businesses that are closing or laying off personnel. If I don't aim... no one can say I missed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28008747 United States 11/30/2012 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reform is actually going to make it cheaper for companies to provide insurance. it is not going to cost them. If you find information otherwise on a RELIABLE source i would be interested......But all RELIABLE sources right now are saying pretty much that the companies that cut hours are only making mistakes that they were warned would hurt them and to me at that point it is their own dumb fault. They will loose their employees and be stuck trying to find people who want to work for a company that doesn't offer full time. They will then be forced to go back to offering 40 hour weeks to be able to get employees! So lets be smart about our choices here! Quoting: YAS 28724457 Yes, you must be right. The economy is strong and those people who are not working are very reluctant and choosy when and if ever they are presented with a new position. Your people are like gold! Take care of them well so they will be less likely to jump to one of your competitors! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33568463 Belgium 02/03/2013 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11630085 At the start of the year I'm being forced to pay for health insurance for myself and my son. 300 dollars a month they just take out of my check. Why are business owners complaining if I'm paying for it? why are you complaining? my government takes away roughly half of my paycheck, every month. in return, i get subpar healthcare (it used to be better) and access to the whole social wellfare/wellness system should i need it (which include pension funds, but those have been gambled away by bad investments; the next generation of elder will have no pension, but they did pay for it their entire life). |