Say goodbye to cheap electricity

I hear and understand what you are saying.
In the begining I am sure a car cost 10x's more than a horse and it was a choice to own one and that in todays society you really do not have that choice with electricity.

I am sure the people who chose to keep thier horse bitched about the cost of roads being built, but it was for the betterment of all.
Take every dime subsidized to oil and allocate it to this research. Wouldnt cost a penny more.

"Forcing people to pay obsene amounts" happens everytime you pull up to a gas pump. Normal supply and demand does not apply to big oil. The current price of a barrel does not support the price at the pump.

Let me paint a picture for you.
You are a inmate (American consumer) in prison and your being raped. There is a line waiting to take thier turn. Big oil is in you at the moment and at the end of that line is Alternative Energy. You cant wait to be fucked by alternatives because you know when they are done the fucking will be over. You are going to be fucked either way, but the sooner its over the better.

Siding with big energy as a politician just proves to me that they care nothing about the average American.

you should come down to Texas

we pay about .06c kwh for our business/residence

this state is on a different grid than the rest of the country, and the governor will fight the EPA the whole way down

it DOES matter where you live...and strength in numbers. If you don't think the policies in your state work, go to one where people who think like you are in the majority

at least then if the thing falls apart, you know its because those policies suck, and you take responsibility for it.

The other way, you feel helpless , which is a crappy way to go through life

gltu OP

But it's a lie.

It's a lie they created. And people didn't have to have cars. We have to have electricity. We can have it for cheap but a lie was perpetrated and we are going to pay for it.

We need to get off the oil/gas/coal tit and move to alternative energy.

We need to invest and give incentives for new technologies which will also create a new economy.

But that won't happen, cuz the oil and gas lobby is too strong.

I have made several energy related discoveries. One is a process that doubles the current output of solar cells. I was waiting for the direction of America to change before releasing it. Now that the libtards are continuing down the path of fascism I need to find a God loving country worthy of it's use. Any recommendations would be welcome. Are there any left, or should I wait until after the desolation?

People who had horses paid for roads...just sayin. If peak oil is a lie then we are really taking a pounding. I know coal is much cleaner now, but with technology we can do much better.
I am by no means a tree hugger, I am a country boy with a 4x4 and love to sling a little mud and will take a chainsaw to a tree in a heart beat, BUT, these energies are dirty. We can do better and the way BP treated America over the gulf spill is criminal, yet had no consequence. Ever seen oil and water mixed? We are gonna sprinkle some magic powder on it and "POOF", its gone. Utter bullshit. We can and need to do better.

You may enjoy Costa Rica. I do!

Got Algae?

With Coal on it's way out they will soon wish for the days where electricity was made for a mere $16 a megawatt.

It will now go to $167 per megawatt in PA. They will see the adjustment on their electric bills in a year or so and cry.

0hio will enjoy an adjustment to $357 per megawatt.


I guess that is what they wanted. They swung towards Obama. There are a lot of Coal miners and Coal mines shutting down ........


Say goodbye to cheap power. Those fools in those states are going to get a rude awakening.


The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt.


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Still won't make much dent...

you should come down to Texas

we pay about .06c kwh for our business/residence

this state is on a different grid than the rest of the country, and the governor will fight the EPA the whole way down

it DOES matter where you live...and strength in numbers. If you don't think the policies in your state work, go to one where people who think like you are in the majority

at least then if the thing falls apart, you know its because those policies suck, and you take responsibility for it.

The other way, you feel helpless , which is a crappy way to go through life

gltu OP

Let's pretend the GOP are not evil nasty oil hungry bastards.

Let's just say they want to see renewable energy.


Now with that said, you don't replace an industry with something that costs 10x's as much or in Ohio's case 22x's more and force the change.

You come up with a cheap alternative first, then change.


Forcing people to pay obscene amounts is fucking stupid and pointless. Making them change before anything cheap is ready is stupid.


I would feel bad for them but they voted for Obama. I hope they get big raises.