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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27120400 United States 11/08/2012 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would like everyone to refer to the chart that references the past TWENTY Presidential elections. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156 You will see that the absolute LOSS of one single demographic of the population amounting to 16 million, WHICH IS A LOSS OF 16% OF THE WHITE VOTING POPULATION, is simply NOT POSSIBLE. It is nice to be able to come up with some simpy-dimpy little explanation in your own mind, BUT THAT IS NOT HOW THE WORLD ACTUALLY WORKS. It is a known fact that a certain percent of the population votes or almost always votes, and a certain percent does not vote. When you are dealing with large numbers, in the millions, the trends become very much predictable and ingrained from one election to the next. When campaigning, when polling, etc., the party machine pretty much can predict how the election is going to go before it happens, WITHIN about 3 percent margin of error. There are really not any BIG surprises. The loss of 16% of the white voting population WOULD NOT HAPPEN. PERIOD. IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN. BUT TO HAVE IT HAPPEN AND THEN BE COMPLETELY IGNORED BY EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ITSELF IS JUST BEYOND THE TWILIGHT ZONE. putting silly little pictures in your post just shows how lacking your argument is and what a "ahem" you are |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1446267 United States 11/08/2012 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true. There was huge enthusiasm for this election. It is all in the polling statistics. The Republican white vote was 1)diluted by illegal aliens and computer hacking and 2)disappeared, imo this is what falls out from a review of the statistics. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27129967 United States 11/08/2012 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the whole purpose with early voting was that nobody was watching while party hacks could play with the incoming vote stream in comfort and convenience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958 Nobody watching, no need to do everything in a few hours, one could play with a few votes per day with ease and over days or weeks a few votes misplaced or added every day builds up to large objects. One thing for sure, libs have no problem winning by any means necessary, conservatives by their nature simply want to go by the rules and will always lose unless a massive turnout overwhelms the fraud machine Wow, clueless. Wish all fascist Republicans were as off the rails as you are, especially in that last sentence. The White Male Club, no matter how large, is no longer the only game in town. I'm a white male, but have never been asked to join their club, nor would I want to join. Glad they finally got what's coming to them. Many of them would like to go out and do physical harm to their detractors, but they won't be able to, and they know it. The game is up for the White Male Club, It's over. Now the entire world can start the long, slow healing process. You're not a White Male, you're a light colored slobbering excuse for a wimp. If you're not proud of who you are, you're just a loser. If you didn't join the White Male Club, you're a traitor AND loser. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27129967 United States 11/08/2012 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the whole purpose with early voting was that nobody was watching while party hacks could play with the incoming vote stream in comfort and convenience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958 Nobody watching, no need to do everything in a few hours, one could play with a few votes per day with ease and over days or weeks a few votes misplaced or added every day builds up to large objects. One thing for sure, libs have no problem winning by any means necessary, conservatives by their nature simply want to go by the rules and will always lose unless a massive turnout overwhelms the fraud machine Wow, clueless. Wish all fascist Republicans were as off the rails as you are, especially in that last sentence. The White Male Club, no matter how large, is no longer the only game in town. I'm a white male, but have never been asked to join their club, nor would I want to join. Glad they finally got what's coming to them. Many of them would like to go out and do physical harm to their detractors, but they won't be able to, and they know it. The game is up for the White Male Club, It's over. Now the entire world can start the long, slow healing process. You're not a White Male, you're a light colored slobbering excuse for a wimp. If you're not proud of who you are, you're just a loser. If you didn't join the White Male Club, you're a traitor AND loser. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5359980 United States 11/08/2012 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the whole purpose with early voting was that nobody was watching while party hacks could play with the incoming vote stream in comfort and convenience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958 Nobody watching, no need to do everything in a few hours, one could play with a few votes per day with ease and over days or weeks a few votes misplaced or added every day builds up to large objects. One thing for sure, libs have no problem winning by any means necessary, conservatives by their nature simply want to go by the rules and will always lose unless a massive turnout overwhelms the fraud machine It seemed odd to me that they constantly hammered home the message of voting early,because really why would it matter?At least to the extent they were pushing it,unless they had ulterior motives.I remember seeing that fruit cake Howard Dean on tv the day before the election brazenly stating that if Obama lost Ohio it could only be due to republican voter fraud.Dean`s a complete tool but he`s not stupid, so why would he do that and make himself look like a complete douche bag?I`ll tell you exactly why.Because a grandiose nut job statement like that would get traction from the media and if any accusations of impropriety were leveled at the dems in regards to voter fraud the dems would just say look, they`re just playing there games again,its more of the same old conspiracy theories like the birth certificate.THEY`RE JUST SAYING IT BECAUSE WE SAID IT FIRST. Think back to the campaign and look at all the baseless accusations that were made about Romney (hes a felon, hes a tax cheat, that guys wife died cause he closed the doors on his company)and it was all bullshit.But it served the purpose intended,it diverted attention away from Obama`s incompetence and put the focus on Romney. I smell a huge fucking rat! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26741443 United States 11/08/2012 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true. There was huge enthusiasm for this election. It is all in the polling statistics. The Republican white vote was 1)diluted by illegal aliens and computer hacking and 2)disappeared, imo this is what falls out from a review of the statistics. Interesting that a reported 16% of the white vote has "disappeared" and we are being told by the MSM and democrats that whites are no longer relevant in this country. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27184286 United States 11/08/2012 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Speaking for myself and another person in my household I will say though we have voted in every other presidential election over the last 24 years. When the Republicans clearly laid out it was their way or the highway, we chose the highway. We are now telling the three high school and junior high kids we are raising that the Republican party does not welcome grass roots efforts and has no intention of actually trying to represent its members. We former white voter went looking for a third party to represent us and until we find one we don't intend to ever vote again. I can not express enough how strongly we interpreted the "FUCK YOU PEONS, GET IN LINE NOW!!!", message our former party sent us. Signed, A Former Voter |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27184286 United States 11/08/2012 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not true. There was huge enthusiasm for this election. It is all in the polling statistics. The Republican white vote was 1)diluted by illegal aliens and computer hacking and 2)disappeared, imo this is what falls out from a review of the statistics. You are mistaking a huge block of people that despise Obama's record and policies for people who are enthusiastic to vote for someone they see as essentially the same. Or maybe you are remembering all the super enthusiastic young people contributing, campaigning, and showing a lively and rejuvenated Republican Party on the news before they told the grass roots to FUCK OFF? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9399003 United States 11/08/2012 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eh, people are too busy checking their facebook status's on their new Ipad's while sipping on a Starbucks frappacino and watching Dancing with the stars. No one gives a shit about anything anymore but their online presence and how fucking cool they look out in public. It wont be long now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27329804 Switzerland 11/08/2012 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eh, people are too busy checking their facebook status's on their new Ipad's while sipping on a Starbucks frappacino and watching Dancing with the stars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9399003 No one gives a shit about anything anymore but their online presence and how fucking cool they look out in public. It wont be long now. there is a whole lot of truth in what you just said...most white people I know aren't worth a damn anyhow. when the day of reckoning comes they will be the first ones dealt with... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5359980 United States 11/08/2012 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the whole purpose with early voting was that nobody was watching while party hacks could play with the incoming vote stream in comfort and convenience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958 Nobody watching, no need to do everything in a few hours, one could play with a few votes per day with ease and over days or weeks a few votes misplaced or added every day builds up to large objects. One thing for sure, libs have no problem winning by any means necessary, conservatives by their nature simply want to go by the rules and will always lose unless a massive turnout overwhelms the fraud machine Wow, clueless. Wish all fascist Republicans were as off the rails as you are, especially in that last sentence. The White Male Club, no matter how large, is no longer the only game in town. I'm a white male, but have never been asked to join their club, nor would I want to join. Glad they finally got what's coming to them. Many of them would like to go out and do physical harm to their detractors, but they won't be able to, and they know it. The game is up for the White Male Club, It's over. Now the entire world can start the long, slow healing process. You weren`t invited in our club cause you`re a cum guzzling pussy who has no qualms about selling out your own kind as long as you get a pat on the head from someone. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27253156 United States 11/08/2012 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is being widely reported that there were 117 million votes cast: 60 million Obama and 57+ million for Romney. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156 This is down 13 million from 2008 total of 131.4 million. In 2008 it is recorded that 100 million whites cast a vote representing 74% of the total and the minority share of the vote was 26%. Now they are reporting out of a total of 117 million votes, whites cast 72% and minorities cast 28%. That means that only 84 million whites voted in 2012 down 16 million from the 100 million whites who voted in 2008. Extrapolating from that, we have to say that 3 million more minorities voted in 2012 than in 2008. In 2010 the resident population of voting age (including aliens of voting age) was 234,564,000. This was an increase in resident population of almost 5 million from the 2008 figure. Yet we are expected to believe that there was a net loss of votes of 13 million representing 16 million fewer white voters and an additional 3 million minority voters. I mean, this is just NOT BELIEVABLE. I refer you to a chart of all the Presidential elections from 1932 -2010. [link to www.census.gov] As you can see, as the population increases, the number of voters increases in every election cycle except when Clinton ran for re-election against Dole. Not a hotly contested election. Kind of a walk away for Clinton. And, even with this....the drop in voters is not near 13 million, and 16 million whites. This turn out and loss of 16 million whites in a hotly contested election such as this one is absolutely NOT believable. What is really going on? Look. This is not difficult. Anyone can do this. I already showed clearly from the information and data that is being provided online and in the media. Here is how it is done. In 2008 100,000,000 white people voted. In 2012 84,000,000 white people voted. The 100,000,000 figure is easily obtainable online. I got the 2012 figure by multiplying the total number of voters by the percent of voters who "they" report are white ie. 72%. Those are the figures that the media are providing. It really ain't rocket science. Now, you can call that 16,000,000 voters or you can call them 16% of white voters since the previous total for white voters was 100,000,000. You can also call them points. You can refer to the 16% as 16 points. Remember everyone: for days and weeks before the election the news would report R:45 and O:47 and you could tell who was ahead in the polls. The 45 and the 47 are called points, but they are actually percents. Is this really necessary? I mean I don't know how far I have to dumb this down. Now lets take the percentage point of 16, representing the absent white vote and let's pretend we're pollers. Pollers know that Obama hasn't been getting more than a 40 percent approval rating from whites for a long time. And in fact, he got 61 percent of the white vote (actually it was higher) but let's use their data. 60% of 16 million is 9.6. and 40% of 16 million is 6.4. We're going with 10 and 6 because that is closer to their so called reality. So that 16 million would have given Romney at least 4 points over Obama. Instead of them being tied, Romney would have been four points ahead in the polls. And, instead of losing the election Romney would have won and won the popular vote also. Here is an article from February of 2012 discussing exactly what they made happen: [link to decoded.nationaljournal.com] I include it here just so you can clearly see that virtually everything that they report as having happened is exactly what they "knew" would happen 9 months before the election. But, in order to make the numbers work, they had to eliminate 16 million white voters. And, that is exactly what they did. With the number of polls that they allegedly take (nightly) for months and months (allegedly) and the hundreds of millions of people involved (supposedly), they can very accurately predict the outcome of an election. And, they know, without a shred of doubt that the 84,000,000 white turnout is ludicrous as it was 100,000,000 in the previous election and more was at stake in this election for whites. And they know what the turn out is going to be, and they know that 16 million whites are not just going to disappear. More people have voted in every election (except 1) since 1932, and the population has grown by at least 5 million since 2010 (that is their data). I know white people who voted in this election who have never voted in any election before, and they are in their thirties. Just one more thing. One can understand, maybe, if they made the claim that the voter turn out was low. Although that would be somewhat questionable because they reported all day that the polling places were jammed and there was long waits everywhere. But, if they just made it a generic missing voter scenerio maybe it could be questionably credible. The reality is that ALL of the missing voters are WHITE. It's not low voter turn out. It's low WHITE VOTER turn out. Specifically. White. Exclusively white. Now in the history of the United States whites have shown up to vote in far greater percentages than minorities including the last 2008 election. The percent of voters of each race who voted in the last election was 66% of the registered whites, 65% of the registered blacks, and 50% of the registered Hispanics, and 40 some percent of the Asians. White people vote. They don't just disappear. They were erased. There is absolutely no reason to believe that 16 percent of the whites who voted in 2008 would stay away in 2012. Again, I encourage you to follow the link to the previous 20 Presidential elections. It is unheard of. It is absolutely ludicrous. It did NOT happen. And, if you think that there is nothing going on with this, ask yourself why NO ONE ANYWHERE has reported this fact. It is their figures and no one has mentioned it. Ask yourself why the Republicans aren't even questioning it. Ask yourself why the spin that the media has taken on the election 100% across the boards, without a single dissenting voice, is that the Republicans are out of it and they are too white, or too old, or too stodgy, or not pandering quite enough to the minorities. Try to figure out that spin when 74% of the voters are white and over 60% of those white voters, an overwhelming mandate by any standard, heartily approve of the Mitt Romney/Republican platform and strategy. The reason they can not take any other stance, like the obvious racial divide, is because people would start looking more closely at the numbers of each group (white and minority) and they certainly wouldn't add up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27293645 United States 11/08/2012 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dissing Ron Paul as they did, for Romney no less! Bizarre! Do you think millions of Christians are going to cheerfully vote for a cult member, what ever Mormonism is, it is not Christianity (See the last sentences of the last book of the Bible for confirmation,Revelation that is). So even Atheist independents were not going to vote crook ass GOP and any Christians voting Romney did it out of ignorance or in hope that the marxist cabal would be put back in the shadows. The Repububes who backed Romney and pissed on Ron Paul now have to live with their deception of their neighbors. Rest assured, God will take care of his own. All informed Christians need to do is kick back and watch while this circus burns down,they will be fine. The others,wait and see.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27319291 United Kingdom 11/08/2012 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like how you use widely reported. But couldn't it be that those 16mil simply decided no to vote this time? I mean 2008 was a record year with huge youth turnout that normally didn't occur, so maybe the blip was that year not this one. And not everybody cared about this election like you think they did. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27319291 United Kingdom 11/08/2012 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of votes were lost to the GOP when they pissed on the American people? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27293645 Dissing Ron Paul as they did, for Romney no less! Bizarre! Do you think millions of Christians are going to cheerfully vote for a cult member, what ever Mormonism is, it is not Christianity (See the last sentences of the last book of the Bible for confirmation,Revelation that is). So even Atheist independents were not going to vote crook ass GOP and any Christians voting Romney did it out of ignorance or in hope that the marxist cabal would be put back in the shadows. The Repububes who backed Romney and pissed on Ron Paul now have to live with their deception of their neighbors. Rest assured, God will take care of his own. All informed Christians need to do is kick back and watch while this circus burns down,they will be fine. The others,wait and see.... lol, in other words the 16 million whites were too bigoted to vote for Romney. The preferred a black guy they think is a secret Muslim to rule them rather than a Mormon. Dang |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15640364 United States 11/08/2012 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is being widely reported that there were 117 million votes cast: 60 million Obama and 57+ million for Romney. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156 This is down 13 million from 2008 total of 131.4 million. In 2008 it is recorded that 100 million whites cast a vote representing 74% of the total and the minority share of the vote was 26%. Now they are reporting out of a total of 117 million votes, whites cast 72% and minorities cast 28%. That means that only 84 million whites voted in 2012 down 16 million from the 100 million whites who voted in 2008. Extrapolating from that, we have to say that 3 million more minorities voted in 2012 than in 2008. In 2010 the resident population of voting age (including aliens of voting age) was 234,564,000. This was an increase in resident population of almost 5 million from the 2008 figure. Yet we are expected to believe that there was a net loss of votes of 13 million representing 16 million fewer white voters and an additional 3 million minority voters. I mean, this is just NOT BELIEVABLE. I refer you to a chart of all the Presidential elections from 1932 -2010. [link to www.census.gov] As you can see, as the population increases, the number of voters increases in every election cycle except when Clinton ran for re-election against Dole. Not a hotly contested election. Kind of a walk away for Clinton. And, even with this....the drop in voters is not near 13 million, and 16 million whites. This turn out and loss of 16 million whites in a hotly contested election such as this one is absolutely NOT believable. What is really going on? The minorites will succed in destroying the wealth of the usa What will that leave themselves No foodstamps ,wellfare checks How is mama gunna feed da babies Allgheto fucks are tools You cant wait to be used |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27184286 United States 11/08/2012 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget the white population is aging. My Grandmother is in a nursing home. I would have helped her get an absentee ballot and vote for Ron Paul if he was running. With no difference between the two candidates and with me already planning on not voting myself, her vote was gone too. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19054218 United States 11/08/2012 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This article: [link to www.realclearpolitics.com] explains what happened. Part of what happened is that there are 7 million outstanding ballots that haven't been counted yet. Mainly, though, some white people didn't vote, for whatever reasons. Their votes were not stolen or hidden. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4791997 United States 11/08/2012 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it didn't really matter if you were white or black period... tripple period. Its the democratic way. Keep the people opressed whether they know it or not. Give them housing, Food stamps, EBT cards, and free health care. Automatic votes for your party because they don't have the education to think for themselves. They only know how their parents survived and if it was good for them then ...... Did his economic bailout (American reinvestment Act) really help the economy long term. I'm not seeing it. When he bailed out GM and Chrysler did it have long term benefits for the US. Don't forget cash for clunkers where did that get us. When he bailed out AIG did it help save the world wide economy (maybe) since most of the money was world wide. Is my neighbor still loosing his house because of his Housing Bailout. Where was the trickle down effect to help the homeowner. Banks saw the money not the people that are upside down on their mortgages because of his economic policies. How much money are we still giving, millions of dollars to foreign countries for aid. Whats the point trying to help afgan and iraq when the US economy is in such bad shape. Keep our hard earned money at home for these situations. I hope it can't get any worse but the reality (unless someone comes up with hard evidence of voter fraud) is we just have to keep our jobs for another four years or impeach/fire the bastard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27326218 Turkey 11/08/2012 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is being widely reported that there were 117 million votes cast: 60 million Obama and 57+ million for Romney. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156 This is down 13 million from 2008 total of 131.4 million. In 2008 it is recorded that 100 million whites cast a vote representing 74% of the total and the minority share of the vote was 26%. Now they are reporting out of a total of 117 million votes, whites cast 72% and minorities cast 28%. That means that only 84 million whites voted in 2012 down 16 million from the 100 million whites who voted in 2008. Extrapolating from that, we have to say that 3 million more minorities voted in 2012 than in 2008. In 2010 the resident population of voting age (including aliens of voting age) was 234,564,000. This was an increase in resident population of almost 5 million from the 2008 figure. Yet we are expected to believe that there was a net loss of votes of 13 million representing 16 million fewer white voters and an additional 3 million minority voters. I mean, this is just NOT BELIEVABLE. I refer you to a chart of all the Presidential elections from 1932 -2010. [link to www.census.gov] As you can see, as the population increases, the number of voters increases in every election cycle except when Clinton ran for re-election against Dole. Not a hotly contested election. Kind of a walk away for Clinton. And, even with this....the drop in voters is not near 13 million, and 16 million whites. This turn out and loss of 16 million whites in a hotly contested election such as this one is absolutely NOT believable. What is really going on? Your BSmeter doesn't affect reality friend. This is THEIR truth.. and we ALL have to live with it! |
Northman User ID: 1110904 Puerto Rico 11/08/2012 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the whole purpose with early voting was that nobody was watching while party hacks could play with the incoming vote stream in comfort and convenience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958 Nobody watching, no need to do everything in a few hours, one could play with a few votes per day with ease and over days or weeks a few votes misplaced or added every day builds up to large objects. One thing for sure, libs have no problem winning by any means necessary, conservatives by their nature simply want to go by the rules and will always lose unless a massive turnout overwhelms the fraud machine That's hard to do when a lot of people are observing and tracking the process from the reception of the votes, to the counting, to final tally. |