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Its possible for people to ignore or voluntarily sever the bond that unites them with the Creator, but as a result they gradually die spiritually

 
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Its possible for people to ignore or voluntarily sever the bond that unites them with the Creator, but as a result they gradually die spiritually
"It is God who created us. It is he who feeds us and enables us to live. We therefore cannot exist outside of God, and no creature is truly independent of him. The feeling of independence which some people experience exists only in their mind. In fact, it is possible for people to ignore or voluntarily sever the bond that unites them with the Creator, but as a result they gradually die spiritually.

Some will say: ‘But God is in the heavens, and we are on earth; we are so far from him!’ No, I’m afraid this is no argument, for the reality of our link with God depends on our state of consciousness. God is in the heavens, but why shouldn’t we, while living here and now on earth, be with him in heaven at the same time? Yes, this is the state of consciousness we must each attain."

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There is no God who created anything. It is all mythology that you have bought into. Don't be afraid. Just admit that you are no more important than a butterfly or an inch worm. You are the same type of thing that they are. You are nothing. Stop pretending that some invisible being in the sky is intimately involved with your life. It makes you rather...childlike. Maybe you like being childlike, but I would rather be an adult.
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There is no God who created anything. It is all mythology that you have bought into. Don't be afraid. Just admit that you are no more important than a butterfly or an inch worm. You are the same type of thing that they are. You are nothing. Stop pretending that some invisible being in the sky is intimately involved with your life. It makes you rather...childlike. Maybe you like being childlike, but I would rather be an adult.
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"Having been a child and treated as a child for a certain period in your life, one day you are told you have come of age. This is not only true of life in society but also of the spiritual life, the difference being that for the spiritual life we do not reach majority at an age set down by law. Even at 99, many men and women have not truly come of age and become adults, because they have not yet acquired any spiritual maturity.

Only those who have received the Holy Spirit can be considered true adults; the others are still only children. Yes, those who have not reached this spiritual maturity are considered minors by heaven, and whatever their age they must maintain the attitude of a child; that is to say, they must remain obedient, humble and willing to submit to the divine world. All those humans we see wrestling with inextricable inner difficulties are still only recalcitrant children. True adults no longer suffer, for they are always in the light."

"It is quite pointless arguing about whether or not God exists! It is quite simple, actually. For the non-believer, it is true, God does not exist, for it depends on us whether things exist or not. When you are asleep, even if all the treasures of the world are heaped around you, since you are not aware of them it is as if they didn't exist. That is the way almost all humans are, deep in sleep, the sleep of unawareness. Only the initiates, because they are truly awakened beings, see the splendours all around them and delight in them. Everyone else has the same riches around them and within them, but they are unaware of it.

So it all depends on one's state of consciousness. When you are awake, certain things become a reality, but when you fall asleep they are erased. It is the same with God: if you are asleep, you do not feel him, and you say he does not exist. But if you wake up, you will feel that God is there, alive within you and around you."

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THE CULTURE OF THE ANGELS

It was one of those crystal clear days when the light reigns in space - the kind which the Master called "the diamond days of Nature". Every little stone, every blade of grass was encircled with an aura of radiance. The light which illuminated the rocks made them appear to be ethereal, almost weightless in their radiance. It was one of Nature's holy days. We were high up on the mountain with our Master, high up in the luminous universe, and he began to speak about the Angels:
"The whole Cosmos which God has created is filled with Beings who are more cultivated than we are and much more organized. Beings of the Angelic Hierarchy exist on the Sun. They live in an ethereal world: solid matter does not exist there in the way that it does on earth. Matter there is in an ethereal state.

"There are also Advanced Beings who dwell on Sirius and on other celestial bodies as well. Compared to the Culture of Sirius - the culture of humankind is still in its swaddling clothes.

"Three kinds of solar systems exist. Some manifest the material world; others manifest the more sublime spiritual elements: these belong to the spiritual world, the Angelic world. After some time - when your spiritual eyes have begun to develop - you will be able to see all worlds. For now like the astronomers, you can see only the material world. The third kind of Solar System is the Divine World: the One which has been created from the most sublime Divine Elements.

"Eventually, man will pass through all solar systems. Our solar system is at the border of the Cosmos. One day - when your consciousness evolves and passes from one solar system into one with a more highly-evolved culture than ours at present - your perception of things will be completely different.

"By 'Angels,' we imply those Beings whose consciousness is so awakened that they shine like the sun. If you were to visit the Angels, you would see that in their world there exists a state of order unlike anything which exists on the earth. People have notions about the Angels, just as ants have notions about people. If you were to ask the ants where man exists, they would say that man is in another world. The ants have no knowledge of the human world. When an ant crawls over a person, it does not think, 'this is a living being.' Just as we can see the ants even though they do not see us, there are invisible Beings who exist and can see us although we do not see them. They work for the betterment of the world.

"We think that man is on the highest rung of the evolutionary ladder, but evolution is without end. Just as there are beings that exist below man, there are Beings that exist above man as well. These Beings evolved from the universes of the past.

"The Angels have a completely different scale of measurement. The more that the consciousness expands, the more the field of vision broadens. For them, only one thing is impossible: they cannot err.

"The Angels have an evolved Consciousness, and they do not intermingle good with evil. The Angelic Universe is much larger than ours. We are children; they are adults. When an Angel errs, he is not accepted into Heaven for ten thousand years, whereas they are much more lenient towards human beings.

"The Angels do not know human error: because if they knew, they would be defiled. Even though the Angels have passed along another path, they are nevertheless interested in our world. For them, we are the objects of study, just as the plants and animals are objects of study for us.

"Some Angels have passed through one mental epoch of humankind in which they stumbled and fell. When the angels were being tested, some of them remained luminous, while others darkened. Those who were conceited and prideful grew dark.

"The Angels take an interest in man. They have no knowledge of the Divine in man, because man is moving on a different path of development as opposed to the path which they have passed along. The Angels are able to learn from man's existence, because there is something in it which is unknown to them. They have no Knowledge of our experience, just as we have no knowledge of their experience; and for this reason, we are interesting to them. Millions of years ago, they were the 'humankind' of their world.

"The Angel possesses Knowledge which is applicable in all worlds: physical, spiritual and Divine. What is the Knowledge of an Angel? If you were to compile all of the knowledge of humankind - all that it has accumulated over thousands of years - an Angel knows all that and more.

"For the Angels to travel from one solar system to another - what kind of transportation do you think they would need? From the Sun to the closest star, an Angel will travel faster than the speed of light. The Evolved Beings who live on the Sun come down to our earth. Beings from Venus, Mars and Mercury come down as well. They have the means of transportation. The light which comes from some universes takes 500 million years to get here. What a great distance! But for an Angel, this is just a stroll. Our scale of measurement is like that of a microbe. The Angels travel at a speed greater than light. For them, the speed of light is like that of a buffalo-wagon. If the speed of light is incomprehensible to human beings, then what about a speed much faster than that? Light travels at the greatest speed possible for the physical world, but the speeds about which we are speaking here belong to other, higher worlds, to different dimensions.

"The Angels are highly evolved Beings who send forth energy throughout the entire solar system. The earth is too small a field for the power of an Angel. An Angel moving at the speed of light would cross the entire earth in a split-second, and yet they travel at even greater speeds.

"The Angels have bodies which are more resilient than ours. Angels master their bodies in such a way that they can be either visible or invisible. When Angels look at human life, they do not see as people see. When an Angel visits you, you become inspired; but when common spirits come to you, you say, 'We are stupid. We are ignorant. We are dull.'

"An Angel is a Being of absolute Justice and Purity. Their clothing is classical in style. You have to live like an Angel in order to put on Angelic clothes. You have to think rightly to be able to dress in a Divine robe.

"In the Sanskrit language, the word 'Deva' means 'Angel.' The Angels are rich in Love, and they work because of their Love. They intuit what God's Will is - that is to say, what God desires - and they fulfill it immediately.

"A World exists where Joy is real and suffering is make-believe. This is the World of the Angels, of the luminous Beings. Happiness on earth is not the Happiness of the spiritual world. In Heaven, your joy and suffering is unknown, but they have knowledge of what the Divine is. In the Angelic World, you cannot speak a word that has a double meaning, nor can you say something negative. If you imply that something which is pure is impure, you will need to leave paradise. On the Sun, if you want to speak an unkind word, your mouth will not open. If you want to speak a good word, then it will open readily.

"Sainthood is one of the highest states of a human being on earth, but the Angels stand higher than the saints.

"There are different orders of Angels. There are Angels who are from the first, second and third Realms. They speak different languages. The lives of the Angels who live in the second Realm are hidden from those who live in the first. And similarly, the lives of those who live in the third are hidden from those who live in the second. In the Angelic World, you can never pronounce a word if you do not like the object which it indicates. For example, if you like apples, you will be able to pronounce the word 'apple', but if you do not - you will not. You can never say, 'I do not like you.' Because before you can speak the words, the one to whom you are directing these words will no longer be in front of you. Compared to the celestial Angelic language, the human language is like the sound of thunder.

"If you go to the invisible World, to the luminous Beings, you will need to know their language, just as when someone comes to you, they will need to speak in your language. The Angels know all tongues. They will speak to you in that ancient Bulgarian language which has preserved its initial purity.

"When the Angels speak amongst themselves, man rejoices, because in their speech, there is something new. Light emanates from their speech: it is something very beautiful. There is a saying, 'When the Angels are eating - on the crumbs from their tables - humans are feasting.' This means that nothing is ever lost. In the same way, the ants are being fed by the crumbs which fall from the table at which man eats. Nothing ever goes to waste.

"The Angels are God's servants. There are Angels of Love, of Wisdom, of Gentleness, of Temperance, and so on. Each of the virtues is represented by specific Angels. The same is also true for all of the arts: music, poetry, etc.

"For the Beings of the Divine World, neither death nor reincarnation exist. The Divine Life is a Life of Perfection.

"When we speak about the sun and the stars, we should look at them as the result of the activity of the Intelligent Beings which lived 25 million, 250 million and 2, 500 million years ago.

"You say, 'I am interested in the other worlds.' It is impossible for you not to be interested, because the aspirations of the human soul originate from the higher Consciousness and culture of the Intelligent Beings from the other worlds.

"The Angels are Beings who have participated in the creation of the world. All of the Divine Powers pass through them. They are protecting us; they are helping us; they are bringing us Divine Blessings.

"It is the Intelligent Beings who work with and direct the life processes of the plants. There is a special class of Angels which works upon the plants. The whole plant kingdom is the accomplishment of the Angels. The intelligence within the plants is that of the Angels. For example, look at how regularly the berries of the grape in a grape cluster are arranged, what perfect form it has. Through the apple, we connect with the Beings of the Sun. The apple is a radio which connects us with these Beings. The flowers are the children of the Angels; they are the paintings of the Angels: their art. Flowers should not be picked. And should you step on a flower - at the same time - you are stepping on the thoughts and feelings of the Angels. We are very unruly children. We have a very high opinion of ourselves.

"The Angels work not only on the plants, but also on the whole of Nature. They work on all the natural kingdoms: animal, mineral, etc. If I say that the Angels are among us, you would ask, 'Where are they?' This very light by which we see today - this is of the Angels. They desire to stimulate our consciousness with their light.

"The Angels are helping us. We have helped them when they have been in the [evolutionary] position of humankind and our bodies were as the animals. In the future, when the animals of the present reach the human level of development, we will be helping them.

"At one time - when they were more like man - the Angels resembled us in certain things, but in other things not at all. The lowest existence of the Angels is still higher than the most sublime existence of man. This is the result of the intensity by which the Angels live. The relationship between the Angels and man can be compared to the relationship between man's life and that of the plants. In order to connect with a man, an Angel must come down and prod him for a long time until his mind awakens and is prompted into motion. The Angel wants to tell him that he is in the presence of a highly evolved Being with whom he needs to connect that he may learn something.

"In the Scriptures it is said, 'Speak not an empty word in the presence of the Angel who is guiding you, because this will turn your cause to naught.' This means that if you do not respect the Angel who is guiding you, you will lose everything and will continuously feel discontent.

"The Beings who have completed their development send their Love to us. We need to connect with them. The Angels on the Sun as well as those of the other solar systems - are thinking about us. When you find yourself in darkness - when you are under attack by inferior beings - a luminous Soul will come to you, will tell you something, will bring you a new idea. These luminous Souls will tell you, 'We will be with you.' These are the helpers, the guardian Angels of humankind. These Advanced Beings surround you; and because of them, your life can progress. You need to make every endeavor that your heart and mind may become an altar in order that you may work with these Advanced Beings. We have to study not only the physical world, but also the spiritual. We need to be connected with not only the physical world but the spiritual as well. We need to maintain contact with the Advanced Beings who are helping us along on our path. Many of our thoughts are the fruits of the thoughts of Advanced Beings. When a seed from one of these fruits lands in your mind, in your heart or in your soul, it will propagate in and of itself. These are the Divine Ideas which have come to grow within you. They are great treasures. Even if only one of these small, precious thoughts penetrates you every day - within ten years, your life will have become drastically changed.

"If you are in good spirits - this is an indication that Advanced Beings are sending their sublime thoughts to you. On the other hand, there are inferior beings as well who are sending to you their parasitic thoughts through which they attempt to prevent you from hearing clearly. Both kinds of beings are active. When you have a stale outlook on life. you have come into contact with beings who are on a lower level of development than you. When you have a fresh prospective, you have connected with Beings who are on a higher level than you.

"If you do not connect with the luminous Beings, no future awaits you. If you nourish yourself in the proper way, you will come into contact with all pure and righteous souls. The Intelligent Beings from the invisible World are sending their good ideas to man; but should these ideas not find good soil for their development, they will be deflected and will return to whence they have come, to their source. This is the reason why - regardless of the great wealth, the great abundance of Blessings which God is sending to earth - the majority of people are spiritually poor.

"If, through the efforts which you are making, you are able to communicate with the Intelligent Beings, you will be able to improve your destiny. This means that you must come to have faith in God, to trust in God. Through higher reasoning, you can come into contact with the Angels; and through Love - with God. The beauty of life lies in man's ability to live in harmony with the Advanced Beings. Man's thought needs to be in harmony with their thought. What greater music - than to think as the Advanced Beings think.

"The Angels who are teaching us are above us. Learn from them. Why should we learn from them? Because they possess a greater understanding than we do. Follow the path of the Angels that you may correct your error.

"People today think that once they come to believe, the sciences and the arts are no longer needed. But people are peculiar in their beliefs about God and in their attitudes about faith. Is it not God the great God of Wisdom, the Great Cause who has created all the worlds? Is it not God who has created the Angels? We need to come to know that there is another Science which exists, another Music, another Poetry, another Art. There exist other worlds as well, other forms of life-all a thousand times more beautiful than ours. There is much to learn.

"You live in an Intelligent World. The Sublime Beings who participated in the creation of the world are still working upon your consciousness and want you to learn, to come to understand things.

"The real wealth in man is the good within him. As it is with the Good, so it is with Love, Wisdom and Truth: they are inseparable. No one can say, 'This Love, this Wisdom, this Knowledge is mine.'

"We have the ability to comprehend the thoughts of the Sublime Beings. Work upon yourselves that you may develop your receptivity, through which you may come into contact with the more advanced Beings.

"Those who have had experiences and personal encounters with the other World - should they become ill, they will be able to overcome their illness more easily. Their Angels from the invisible World will visit them, will take away their pain, their suffering, their discouragement. The Intelligent Powers in the world are very active. The benevolent beings come from above or from the right side, whereas the inferior beings - from below or the left.

"When you are passing through a trial, pray and the luminous Beings will come to help you.

"There is a Law which states: no act performed by an Advanced Being exists in which the loss is greater than the benefit.

"If a man's heart is filled with sublime and noble thoughts and feelings - it is sufficient for him to think merely about an Angel, and the Angel will be with him. Without these feelings in his heart, no Angel will be able to leave his world to help him.

"When I look at you, I can see what kind of relationship the higher Beings have with you. This is because you are like a candle which has been illuminated, and from the intensity of the light of your candle - of your mind - a determination can be made regarding the essence of your candle as well as the quality of the burning which is taking place within you - whether it be full, or only partial. The Advanced Beings utilize this fire, that is to say, the energy of your mind for their work. This means: when you are making the endeavor to love, the Sublime Beings use this energy for their work.

"There are Angels who are guiding the nations. The Angel is a very real being, with both a body and a mind. Man thinks, and the animal thinks - but what a difference between man and animal!

"Sometimes highly Evolved Beings instill themselves within a man for 10, 15 or even 20 years and work. This is more economical and saves time in comparison to being born. In this sense, the man of genius is a collective being. One or more Advanced Beings has fallen in Love with him, has come to dwell within him and to manifest through him. Those people within whom an Angel comes to dwell, we call geniuses or saints. Within each great soul a great spirit lives. A musician in the true sense of the word can be only the one within whom an Angel lives. All things in the world which are sublime are because of the Angels.

"Man's consciousness needs to be awakened that he may be able to connect with the Consciousness of the Great Beings and learn from them.

I believe not in enthusiasm, but rather in Inspiration. Enthusiasm lasts for a day and a half, whereas Inspiration endures forever. Whatever one seeks to do, one must have Inspiration.

"In the future, the earth will be aglow, just as it was illuminated in earlier times. There is a saying [in Bulgarian]: 'To wherever it did flow, it will flow again.' It is the Advanced Beings who order our lives. They are investing something new into your account. It is important for you that everything which they have imparted to you increases. It is important that you invest something in their account as well. How? Through your gratitude to them. Be thankful for your friends from above who are helping you.

"All the Sublime Beings gather around those who have sublime aspirations."

Peter Deunov (Beinsa Douno)


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THE NEW ORDER - THE ANGELIC CULTURE

"A new Order is coming into the world. When you return to the earth after several thousand years, you will verify what I am telling you now. The houses will not be constructed as they are now, but will be built several kilometers away from one another. The animals will be given rest from the people. To the artists, musicians and other people of the arts, the best conditions for work will exist. This will be accomplished by the sixth race.

"The inner wealth, the knowledge which a person possesses, will be available to all. Now you are provided with air, light and water. One day the bread too will be given to you like the air, the water and the light. In the sixth race, people will have bread in abundance. Every one will have a home, a garden and fruit trees. When you pass through a place that is new to you, you will be asked from all sides to come in for a visit.

"In the new Order, everything old will disappear and all things will be completely new. The fruit too - pears, apples, plums, etc. - will change; they will be different. At the present time, the lemon tree blossoms and its fruit ripens throughout the whole year. In the future, this will be the same with the apples as well.

"The culture will be smokeless. Everything will be done by electricity.

"That which we desire, exists. There are Beings who have this; they live this. The Angels live in such a culture, the kind in which we will live after thousands of years. After thousands of years, we will live in the Angelic Culture. Everything in the world is real. Everything exists already, but it descends from above downwards. The Angelic Culture descends to the human culture, and the human culture descends to that of animals and so on. Thus, a culture descends from above.
"Somebody may say, 'When we are perfect, what will we do?' We will then begin to live."

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Dangers of materialism and atheism

« By trying hard to show that there is no God, no providence, no heaven, no hope of life after death, materialists deny everything that gives meaning to human life: the reality of the soul and spirit. They have claimed that religion was the "opium of the people" and that, to be happy, man only needed something to eat, a roof over his head, a family to raise and something to study. What actually happens?

Even when someone has satisfied all the claims of his body, heart and intellect, he is still not satisfied. He neglects to nourish his soul and spirit, so now it is they that demand something!

That is why the use of drugs (that plague that is becoming more and more widespread in the world) is a warning. It is a sign that the soul is trying to make its needs understood: it is suffocating and it uses drugs to free itself, but this so-called liberation is suicidal. Oh, of course, we had to get rid of the opium of religion... and now we have marijuana, heroin, cocaine... Should materialistic philosophy be proud of this result? »

« Why is it that some people's perception, lucidity and clarity of mind increase with age, and even with old-age, and in others they decrease? Because the first have from very early on acquired the habit of connecting, bonding with cosmic Intelligence, they believe in it, they open themselves up to it, they love it, and little by little it reveals itself to them because it is attracted by this love. Whereas the others, who do not acknowledge any Intelligence in the universe, close off the path to true understanding. They are focussed on their sole intelligence, trust only their own intelligence, and because this intelligence is limited, it dries up after a while. People who refuse to acknowledge cosmic Intelligence, who repudiate it, limit their mental faculties. So everyone has a choice: the path taken by all the materialist scientists and philosophers, or the path of the initiates, of the great masters who receive revelations every day because they continually draw from the infinite ocean of cosmic Intelligence. »

« There is nothing to be greatly admired in the many brilliant, wealthy and powerful people who place no importance on the life of the soul and spirit. Because they do not seek spiritual nourishment, which alone could fulfill them, they are like starving beasts; and their ambition, their voracity and their greed finally lead them down paths that are dangerous both for themselves and for those around them.

Unfortunately, many so-called spiritualists do not conduct themselves any better: they try to gain the same success as the materialists by the means given to them by initiatic science. In doing so they betray the most sacred principles and are thus even guiltier than the materialists. It is clear that they are satisfied and proud of succeeding by these means, but heaven, which does not like to be used for egotistical ends, will demand an accounting one day, and they will be severely punished. »

« We often hear certain well-known people expressing indignation about the fact that even in these times human beings have not yet rid themselves of religious beliefs which are considered to be irrational. It is true that after a period of materialism, of scientism, more and more people are once again turning to religion, spirituality, or mysticism, and this tendency sometimes takes forms which are completely confused and nonsensical. Even religious authorities are disturbed by it, because they feel overtaken by these new currents which they cannot control.
Well, the responsibility for this situation lies with the faithful themselves, who have been more preoccupied with extending the domination of the Church than with responding to the real needs of souls and spirits.
It also lies with the scientists, whose materialistic philosophies leave people hungry and thirsty.

Both groups should therefore cease complaining about a situation that they themselves have helped to create. Instead, they should come together and see how they can change it. »

« Materialistic theories may seduce people for a time and sever their ties with the Divinity, but only temporarily.
Whether many celebrated thinkers like it or not, the Creator has designed human beings in such a way that they cannot manage without Him. If they imagine they can, it will only be for a brief moment. Right away they will sense that they have crippled themselves and will be obliged to return to another conception of the world and of themselves.

It is pointless, therefore, to waste time fulminating against those incorrigible human beings who need to believe in a Creator of the universe, in an invisible world peopled by spiritual entities, in life after death, and in the power of prayer, because they will remain incorrigible. Yes, because this is the reality of humankind and the universe, a reality no one can change. »

« "In the beginning... God created the heavens and the earth,..." The entire initiatic philosophy is contained in these first few words of the Book of Genesis. The heavens and the earth... The heavens represent the spirit and the earth represents matter. It is for good reason that Moses first mentioned the heavens and then the earth, because heaven must always come first. This is what human beings have not yet understood very well. They put the earth first. And some go even farther and behave as if only the earth had been created, and who knows by whom! By putting the earth first, human beings have introduced an imbalance in social life and this imbalance is also reflected in them. Be aware that all imbalance stems from not understanding the place the Creator has given to the spirit and matter respectively. Matter should not be neglected, of course not, but it is far more detrimental to humankind not to have understood once and for all that they must put the spirit first. »

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« The universe embarraces me, and I cannot think this clock exists and has no clockmaker. »

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"Humans see life in very simple terms: everything that exists must serve their needs. Whenever they can, they also exploit other creatures, and in every way possible. As for nature, it is only there to be exploited. If they could also make the Lord serve them, they would have no compunction in doing so. At least materialists and atheists leave God alone, since they do not believe in him. But what do believers do most of the time? They pester him with their demands and try to use him for their highly selfish ventures.

As for you, you must understand that you will not be a truly spiritual person until you place yourself in the service of the Lord. Then, you will no longer even need to ask him for anything. Why? Because as soon as you begin to serve him, he will give you the benefit of his riches – true riches, those that never change and that nothing and no one can take away from you."

"Atheists think that they show objectivity, logic and reasoning: they think that they at least judge according to what they see, hear, touch, measure, etc., unlike believers who are so obsessed by their faith that they are incapable, according to them, of being lucid. Well, no, however intelligent a man may be, if he does not accept the existence of God, the reality of the soul, the immortality of the spirit, he will always lack an essential element to complete his observations and judgments. The absence of this element limits him, for he pays too much attention to form, to the surface of life.

An atheist is like someone who, looking at a human being, considers only his anatomy. As long as it is only a question of identifying the limbs and organs, and describing their aspects, that is all right, anatomy can suffice. But to pay too much attention to anatomy means to take an interest in a body without taking into account the life that animates it. Only the belief in the life of the soul and spirit and in the divine world, where they have their origins, can give a man the true dimension of beings and things and the consciousness of the currents that circulate within them."

"Religions are accused of having massacred human beings in the name of the love of God. And it is true. But it is also true that those who have advocated the love of human beings have been as guilty of serious mistakes as those who have preached the love of God. Atheists, as well as believers, have ruthlessly murdered their kin, and the citizens of nations ruled by political regimes hostile to all forms of religion have been neither freer nor happier. So it is not the fault of religion. It is the fault of human beings who do not see that it is essential above all to study oneself and seek the best methods for transforming oneself. This is why they spoil everything they touch: not only religion, but also philosophy, politics, science, art and so on. These are only what human beings make of them. People must understand that what is most important is to carry out a work on themselves to improve their thoughts, their feelings and their actions."

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Re: Its possible for people to ignore or voluntarily sever the bond that unites them with the Creator, but as a result they gradually die spiritually
The Atheist Delusion: Answering Richard Dawkins

By GREG TAYLOR

There is no more esteemed debunker and denouncer of all things religious than British intellectual Richard Dawkins. In his latest book, The God Delusion, Dawkins makes a frontal assault on not just religious fundamentalism, but religion in general. To quote the name of the accompanying television series, Dawkins appears to see it as “the root of all evil.”

There is much truth in Dawkins’ criticism. One only has to look at human tragedies occurring around the world to see the effects of unquestioning faith and religious righteousness. And not just in recent years; consider the Albigensian Crusade, the witch-hunts of the Middle Ages, right up to the troubles in Northern Ireland. Belief in a dogma, without doubting the actions that arise out of that faith, can be the foundation upon which horrors grow. Millions have died fighting for, and against, particular religious ideas.

Dawkins is a gifted thinker, and some of his questions and insights about religion are certainly worthy of contemplation. For instance, Dawkins queries the righteousness of any particular religion in the following passage:
If you have a faith, it is statistically overwhelmingly likely that it is the same faith as your parents and grandparents had. No doubt soaring cathedrals, stirring music, moving stories and parables, help a bit. But by far the most important variable determining your religion is the accident of birth. The convictions that you so passionately believe would have been a completely different, and largely contradictory, set of convictions, if only you had happened to be born in a different place.

Also insightful is his concern for political representation. In The God Delusion, Dawkins points out that religious groups can form powerful lobbies, able to effect large-scale changes in government policy which rule all of our lives. One of the more prominent examples is the Bush administration’s stance on stem cell research, a strand of science which perhaps offers the most profound steps forward in medicine for decades (suggested as a possible treatment for spinal injury paralysis, Parkinson’s Disease and Alzheimer’s).

Current US leaders rely far too heavily on ‘heartland’ support by the large Christian voting blocks to allow research into stem cells – even if the arguments against seem to be at best scare campaigns based on faulty logic. This situation, in which non-believers like Dawkins are at the ‘democratic’ mercy of religious groups able to exert political pressure, must be a particularly troubling one for him – and I must confess, it is to me as well.

Continue to read:
[link to www.newdawnmagazine.com]

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