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I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real

 
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I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
So I wrote a proof that everything is real.

[link to www.xanderism.com]

I'm looking for feedback. I want to see if anyone can find a flaw in my logic.

I hope everyone agrees with me, so this issue can be settled.
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11/10/2012 01:25 PM
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
So I wrote a proof that everything is real.

[link to www.xanderism.com]

I'm looking for feedback. I want to see if anyone can find a flaw in my logic.

I hope everyone agrees with me, so this issue can be settled.
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
So I wrote a proof that everything is real.

[link to www.xanderism.com]

I'm looking for feedback. I want to see if anyone can find a flaw in my logic.

I hope everyone agrees with me, so this issue can be settled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


laugh
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“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.” Gandhi
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11/10/2012 01:32 PM

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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Then the kid gets hypnotize
told cold water is hot
then kid pulls arm a way thinking cold is hot


Txt this with a friend this morning

Truth or illusion
Its all an illusion
There for no truths

His response
Your illusion your truth
My response
ROFL so true

To each his own

Last Edited by Force King on 11/10/2012 01:36 PM
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Actually the latest cutting edge theories are suggesting that the entire reality we see including all the visible universe is just a holographic projection of captured data on spherical surface of the event horizon of a black hole.

Good luck.
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Even a shadow is related to reality, but by itself it is not real. All assertion calls for a denial, but this is the first step only. The next is to go beyond both.

Šrí Nisargadatta Maharaj
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
If our reality is real then why is there computer error correcting code built into the physics of our universe, according to some physicists.
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Actually the latest cutting edge theories are suggesting that the entire reality we see including all the visible universe is just a holographic projection of captured data on spherical surface of the event horizon of a black hole.

Good luck.
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Where did the data come from?
I saw this on wormhole I think.
But never answered that question
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
So I wrote a proof that everything is real.

[link to www.xanderism.com]

I'm looking for feedback. I want to see if anyone can find a flaw in my logic.

I hope everyone agrees with me, so this issue can be settled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


laugh
 Quoting: Deej


“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.” Gandhi
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You are not entitled to use that phrase, since it is you who have the mainstream accepted point of view.
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Actually the latest cutting edge theories are suggesting that the entire reality we see including all the visible universe is just a holographic projection of captured data on spherical surface of the event horizon of a black hole.

Good luck.
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what projects ME though, sitting here, with a floor above me, and a ceiling and roof above that?

I am blocked from view from the edge of the universe when I'm sat here, so WHAT is my projector?
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
well I got a lot of responses. But I can tell none of you actually looked at anything I wrote.

So, let me put up a summary.

1. You can split any experience into distinct sensations
-images
-sounds
-feelings
etc.

2. One distinct sensation is always REAL

3. You associate sensations together to form concepts

4. When you encounter new things, you believe that all aspects of that thing will meet your preconceived concept.

5. If it does, you say... it is REAL

6. If one or more aspects is different, you say, it is NOT REAL

7. However, since all distinct sensations are real. Even if something is 'not real', it is still really something in of itself. You simply have to come up with a new concept.

I think this is put better on the website. But I hope this makes sense here.
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Even a shadow is related to reality, but by itself it is not real. All assertion calls for a denial, but this is the first step only. The next is to go beyond both.

Šrí Nisargadatta Maharaj
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Love this man... great quote

applause
No matter what happens... just say "Thank You." - D W Fierce
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Actually the latest cutting edge theories are suggesting that the entire reality we see including all the visible universe is just a holographic projection of captured data on spherical surface of the event horizon of a black hole.

Good luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


what projects ME though, sitting here, with a floor above me, and a ceiling and roof above that?

I am blocked from view from the edge of the universe when I'm sat here, so WHAT is my projector?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26860799


You're thinking only 4 dimensionally stop that it's very limiting. Try something closer to 6 dimensional thinking and you'll be in the right direction.
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Actually the latest cutting edge theories are suggesting that the entire reality we see including all the visible universe is just a holographic projection of captured data on spherical surface of the event horizon of a black hole.

Good luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


what projects ME though, sitting here, with a floor above me, and a ceiling and roof above that?

I am blocked from view from the edge of the universe when I'm sat here, so WHAT is my projector?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26860799


You're thinking only 4 dimensionally stop that it's very limiting. Try something closer to 6 dimensional thinking and you'll be in the right direction.
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so basically, totally opposite to what Op is suggesting, it is really true, that NOTHING is real?

gotcha!

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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
what are the 5th and 6th dimensions by the way?

how do they WORK?
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Even a shadow is related to reality, but by itself it is not real. All assertion calls for a denial, but this is the first step only. The next is to go beyond both.

Šrí Nisargadatta Maharaj
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Love this man... great quote

applause
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He was an exceptionaly sharp thinker.hf
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Yeah everything is real, but even your imagination can be real. So what's the point of this lol?

Non-existance could be non-existant. So imagination can be considered as real as reality.
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
everything is an illusion, our brains are near real-time chemical synthesizers of the input from the environmental via our senses.

we dont hear air pressure our mind makes up the sound, we dont see the object just the light bouncing off it.

etc etc

btw i did read
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Yeah everything is real, but even your imagination can be real. So what's the point of this lol?

Non-existance could be non-existant. So imagination can be considered as real as reality.
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ok. that is my point. You get it. But no one else on here gets it.
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Yeah everything is real, but even your imagination can be real. So what's the point of this lol?

Non-existance could be non-existant. So imagination can be considered as real as reality.
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Your imagination is real but for you, yours. Not for me.
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Yeah everything is real, but even your imagination can be real. So what's the point of this lol?

Non-existance could be non-existant. So imagination can be considered as real as reality.
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Your imagination is real but for you, yours. Not for me.
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This is going to be harder than I thought.
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
everything is an illusion, our brains are near real-time chemical synthesizers of the input from the environmental via our senses.

we dont hear air pressure our mind makes up the sound, we dont see the object just the light bouncing off it.

etc etc

btw i did read
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Well thanks for reading. I guess I'll go back to the drawing board.

I feel that I have failed to convey my idea. I will rethink my method and try again.

Thanx for the feedback guys.
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11/10/2012 02:11 PM
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
everything is an illusion, our brains are near real-time chemical synthesizers of the input from the environmental via our senses.

we dont hear air pressure our mind makes up the sound, we dont see the object just the light bouncing off it.

etc etc

btw i did read
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27441934


Well thanks for reading. I guess I'll go back to the drawing board.

I feel that I have failed to convey my idea. I will rethink my method and try again.

Thanx for the feedback guys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


what?!

you got that from my response?

everything is an illusion, its also real, because illusions are real.

lmao

the reality is only in our mind
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
its all relative to what your comparing it to.
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
everything is an illusion, our brains are near real-time chemical synthesizers of the input from the environmental via our senses.

we dont hear air pressure our mind makes up the sound, we dont see the object just the light bouncing off it.

etc etc

btw i did read
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27441934


Well thanks for reading. I guess I'll go back to the drawing board.

I feel that I have failed to convey my idea. I will rethink my method and try again.

Thanx for the feedback guys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


what?!

you got that from my response?

everything is an illusion, its also real, because illusions are real.

lmao

the reality is only in our mind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27441934


oh ok. I apologize. In your original response you stated that everything was an illusion, but did not say that it was also real. But now I understand what you are saying.

I appreciate the feedback.
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11/13/2012 02:59 PM
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Today is a "day" taking place in "November 13"

I seen so many coincidences that most likely
this is a
"Simulated-Virtual Reality"

........I grew up +18 years believing I live in "planet earth" in the
"21st century".


I did alot of research of how this reality is all an "illusion".


The funny thing is that I am still here in a "mix-up"


This will help you ALOT,OP:

Thread: Hello!!!!......is there anybody out there with me inside "Matrix/Holodeck/Fake Reality/Fake 2012/Truman Show/Source Code/Inception" Life???


cool2
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
How about...

Reality is just a construct of your imagination determined by external influences.blink
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
this thread is not real
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Re: I am tired of people saying everything is an illusion/not real
Everything is an illusion and not real.coffee4





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