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Thor's Hamster User ID: 1248699 United States 11/10/2012 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you get a chance, get out to the Hopi Reservation some time. It's like another world. It's in northern Arizona, northeast of Flagstaff by about 60 miles, and it's surrounded by the Navajo Reservation. The main areas they live are the 3 Mesas; also Moenkopi and Keams Canyon. You can stop at some shops and take a lot at their arts and crafts. The Hopi are more spiritual in general than the Navajo. And, in general, Hopi are a bit shorter and squatter with rounder faces. The Navajo are generally taller, a little thinner, and have more angular faces. The Navajo are Athabascan, and the Hopi are Pueblo people, possibly descendants of the Anasazi. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
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Thor's Hamster User ID: 1248699 United States 11/10/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | especialy the story of the PaHaNa,Peacemaker,and his part of the tablet...................................... Quoting: Mi'Kmaq Mi'Kmaq, are you in far eastern Canada? The MicMac (forgive my spelling of it) were the native Americans that they think the Vikings encountered when they landed and set up temporary settlements along the coast of Newfoundland, circa 1000 A.D. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
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Mi'Kmaq User ID: 1040551 Puerto Rico 11/10/2012 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | especialy the story of the PaHaNa,Peacemaker,and his part of the tablet...................................... Quoting: Mi'Kmaq Mi'Kmaq, are you in far eastern Canada? The MicMac (forgive my spelling of it) were the native Americans that they think the Vikings encountered when they landed and set up temporary settlements along the coast of Newfoundland, circa 1000 A.D. No I live near Yo'Semite,but my family is from that area,Nova Scotia mostly................... |
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drhoecker User ID: 19191405 United States 11/10/2012 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lets begin with some truth the traditional Hopi i met call me papa, and they call me equatchie and also phousae i have gifted them a woodstone with many signs in it i have documented before hand,faces and signs,my own included. i have gifted them crystals and canes that both join as one cane, i made them a seven strand whip as directed to do. i made them a nazi staff or as you might know as a snake dance staff,i made them a peace pipe from the same wood. also i gave them a hopi bow as they make them. we have smoked together and i have slept in the white house. the oldest home in america. old oriabi where the prophesy rock resides is the same stone i read and was granted permission to speak on what it says. i told them many things no one could know and them as well. they received many photos of their secrets. they gave me permission to speak for them also. they were asked what they wanted more than anything else and told me their desires which i respect. they fed me and gave me drink many times. we spoke on respect and the future. i was gifted a painting and asked to keep it forever in my family and i have agreed. the parrott kschina dancer and its true meaning. we discussed harmony and both our parts in this venture. and they asked me what size shirt i wear so they can gift me again.i was taught about spirits and the relationship between man and spirits. in all i learned to love these people. we shared tears even and we respect each other. i was asked to speak on their behalf as the govt dont listen to them. as far as the future events coming they are almost fulfilled they told me their past and i relayed what i knew of the same.we viewed crystals together and i gifted them many special powerful crystals they use even now. the mots important thing i learned was we can overcome the hatred between us. what they wanted me to say for them was this they want to be left alone to live their lives and they want to be free to practice their faith as they always have. thus i have decided to comply and i leave them alone. i only came as a sign post to show them the time line is correct and as such they are ready for what comes. we are not finished though,not yet. they told me my ladder from my kiva goes up forever while i was on their old sacred grounds. i fully respect and love these people and all people. they showed me we can get along but it really is about the spirits and harmony. the message i was asked to reveal is this. we have to keep the harmony or we shall lose our smile and this is so true the picture was painted with every color there is from above and below there is a space event coming in the heavens above the heavenly bodies will show when it is near they told me truth,everything is made sweet. the creator sets on the tip of our tongue. well there is a lot more but for now i have to keep what is sacred sacred. however i can tell this,the stone shows when i read it as a missile in a silo. i also revealed the four power plants falling from within. they said they hoped not but japan event did come in thirty days to the day. as well i told them of the national monument falling,as you know it cracked out the corner most stone from the pyramid,closed still. and i hold a map of a special place they know from ancient. i followed their very footprints backwards ,they led to old oriabi verifing who was here first.i witnessed this fact firsthand. i know of the migration and i know their pain and suffering. as far as prophesy goes,it all has and or will come true my pics show a train even as they presaw. i stood in the sanctuary and spoke with the spirit in a place only they knew about,verified with their own signs in stone drawings and signs. really it is up to everyone else to stop and turn their hearts around.the Hopi are the storytellers of old. if you saw the hole in the wall and looked inside as i have you would be a better person. we have to release their bondage and free them. as obama promised he would make them first americans again but he lied,he sent more police(federal agents) to harass them. obama failed to give them a voice as he promised and i gave them the letter where he offerd these things up but did not. the Hopi have thanked me again for my help and what i am doing for them and will do. so pahana or not i made some friends from my natural enemies that society created. we smoked on this and well here i am still in the flesh,(those with wisdom understand what happens to liars in native society.) fact is i wa stold with honor i was the first "white man" who never lied to them and all my words were true as they studied them. they honored me and i honor them in return. that was mans biggest lesson i learned from the Hopi. we can talk out our issues and repair our wrongs. they taught me love,even with a slap on the head and back to wake me up. the thing i need to reveal is man is their own worst enemy. like corn has many colors on one stock from one soil,so is man come.we should be as corn and just be. i have pictures and videos but not from their land as this is their law. as i stated ahead i can and do speak for the traditional Hopi. who will hear what the saints say? with respect and love i ask everyone to be kind on this posting. and do not be mean nor nasty. the Hopi taught me how to be human. i have to respect them for this. in truth i wrote this for posterity and to wake you up. hey listen,when they fed me their food they also fed me food i eat and it showed me we are really the same inside. they turned their prison sentence they were born into ,into a paradise they call heaven, take note. the bad they turned good we all could learn from them how to act. for now i shall stop,and as i said,it dont matter what you feel i am ,pahana or not i made friends with the people we forgot about in america. i will leave it at that for now. sincerly ,dana rene hoecker as one Peter Deane said, "there is a man somewhere north of the Catalina's,who speaks with kschina's". this is myself he spoke of. love and respect to all life, i stand down . |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26169464 United States 11/10/2012 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lets begin with some truth Quoting: drhoecker 19191405 the traditional Hopi i met call me papa, and they call me equatchie and also phousae i have gifted them a woodstone with many signs in it i have documented before hand,faces and signs,my own included. i have gifted them crystals and canes that both join as one cane, i made them a seven strand whip as directed to do. i made them a nazi staff or as you might know as a snake dance staff,i made them a peace pipe from the same wood. also i gave them a hopi bow as they make them. we have smoked together and i have slept in the white house. the oldest home in america. old oriabi where the prophesy rock resides is the same stone i read and was granted permission to speak on what it says. i told them many things no one could know and them as well. they received many photos of their secrets. they gave me permission to speak for them also. they were asked what they wanted more than anything else and told me their desires which i respect. they fed me and gave me drink many times. we spoke on respect and the future. i was gifted a painting and asked to keep it forever in my family and i have agreed. the parrott kschina dancer and its true meaning. we discussed harmony and both our parts in this venture. and they asked me what size shirt i wear so they can gift me again.i was taught about spirits and the relationship between man and spirits. in all i learned to love these people. we shared tears even and we respect each other. i was asked to speak on their behalf as the govt dont listen to them. as far as the future events coming they are almost fulfilled they told me their past and i relayed what i knew of the same.we viewed crystals together and i gifted them many special powerful crystals they use even now. the mots important thing i learned was we can overcome the hatred between us. what they wanted me to say for them was this they want to be left alone to live their lives and they want to be free to practice their faith as they always have. thus i have decided to comply and i leave them alone. i only came as a sign post to show them the time line is correct and as such they are ready for what comes. we are not finished though,not yet. they told me my ladder from my kiva goes up forever while i was on their old sacred grounds. i fully respect and love these people and all people. they showed me we can get along but it really is about the spirits and harmony. the message i was asked to reveal is this. we have to keep the harmony or we shall lose our smile and this is so true the picture was painted with every color there is from above and below there is a space event coming in the heavens above the heavenly bodies will show when it is near they told me truth,everything is made sweet. the creator sets on the tip of our tongue. well there is a lot more but for now i have to keep what is sacred sacred. however i can tell this,the stone shows when i read it as a missile in a silo. i also revealed the four power plants falling from within. they said they hoped not but japan event did come in thirty days to the day. as well i told them of the national monument falling,as you know it cracked out the corner most stone from the pyramid,closed still. and i hold a map of a special place they know from ancient. i followed their very footprints backwards ,they led to old oriabi verifing who was here first.i witnessed this fact firsthand. i know of the migration and i know their pain and suffering. as far as prophesy goes,it all has and or will come true my pics show a train even as they presaw. i stood in the sanctuary and spoke with the spirit in a place only they knew about,verified with their own signs in stone drawings and signs. really it is up to everyone else to stop and turn their hearts around.the Hopi are the storytellers of old. if you saw the hole in the wall and looked inside as i have you would be a better person. we have to release their bondage and free them. as obama promised he would make them first americans again but he lied,he sent more police(federal agents) to harass them. obama failed to give them a voice as he promised and i gave them the letter where he offerd these things up but did not. the Hopi have thanked me again for my help and what i am doing for them and will do. so pahana or not i made some friends from my natural enemies that society created. we smoked on this and well here i am still in the flesh,(those with wisdom understand what happens to liars in native society.) fact is i wa stold with honor i was the first "white man" who never lied to them and all my words were true as they studied them. they honored me and i honor them in return. that was mans biggest lesson i learned from the Hopi. we can talk out our issues and repair our wrongs. they taught me love,even with a slap on the head and back to wake me up. the thing i need to reveal is man is their own worst enemy. like corn has many colors on one stock from one soil,so is man come.we should be as corn and just be. i have pictures and videos but not from their land as this is their law. as i stated ahead i can and do speak for the traditional Hopi. who will hear what the saints say? with respect and love i ask everyone to be kind on this posting. and do not be mean nor nasty. the Hopi taught me how to be human. i have to respect them for this. in truth i wrote this for posterity and to wake you up. hey listen,when they fed me their food they also fed me food i eat and it showed me we are really the same inside. they turned their prison sentence they were born into ,into a paradise they call heaven, take note. the bad they turned good we all could learn from them how to act. for now i shall stop,and as i said,it dont matter what you feel i am ,pahana or not i made friends with the people we forgot about in america. i will leave it at that for now. sincerly ,dana rene hoecker as one Peter Deane said, "there is a man somewhere north of the Catalina's,who speaks with kschina's". this is myself he spoke of. love and respect to all life, i stand down . Thank you very much for sharing your story Dana, I share a very deep connection w/ the natives of this land and also share your sentiment. Please keep the show in mind, I would be honored if you would call in and share with us live on Tuesday evening if you're available. Much Love, Sin :Hugging: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27457525 United Kingdom 11/10/2012 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have all had your chance with these prophecies, it's now 2012, and nothing as happened. now your digging this shit up again and carrying the date further on, well that's just fucking sad isn't it. all i can is your miserable fucking lifes, and you really need this shit to happen, well i fucking dont, there many ppl who want to live without you fucking sad acts around, just go get a fucking rope and end your miserable fucking cunting lifes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13813766 Australia 11/10/2012 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have all had your chance with these prophecies, it's now 2012, and nothing as happened. now your digging this shit up again and carrying the date further on, well that's just fucking sad isn't it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27457525 all i can is your miserable fucking lifes, and you really need this shit to happen, well i fucking dont, there many ppl who want to live without you fucking sad acts around, just go get a fucking rope and end your miserable fucking cunting lifes. |
drhoecker User ID: 19191405 United States 11/10/2012 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have all had your chance with these prophecies, it's now 2012, and nothing as happened. now your digging this shit up again and carrying the date further on, well that's just fucking sad isn't it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27457525 all i can is your miserable fucking lifes, and you really need this shit to happen, well i fucking dont, there many ppl who want to live without you fucking sad acts around, just go get a fucking rope and end your miserable fucking cunting lifes. 6-16 to be exact |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27457525 United Kingdom 11/10/2012 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have all had your chance with these prophecies, it's now 2012, and nothing as happened. now your digging this shit up again and carrying the date further on, well that's just fucking sad isn't it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27457525 all i can is your miserable fucking lifes, and you really need this shit to happen, well i fucking dont, there many ppl who want to live without you fucking sad acts around, just go get a fucking rope and end your miserable fucking cunting lifes. the bible doesn't give and end date, even Jesus said no one knows the day time or hour only my father. but what i said above about 2012 end date,is a rant at all these ppl coming on forums giving and bringing prophecies that aint gonna happen, even in 2016 or what ever date no human is going to ever get it right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19200631 United States 11/10/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder. "This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies." "This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle." "This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron." "This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web." "This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun." "This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it." "This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom. "And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease. |
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drhoecker User ID: 19191405 United States 11/10/2012 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have all had your chance with these prophecies, it's now 2012, and nothing as happened. now your digging this shit up again and carrying the date further on, well that's just fucking sad isn't it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27457525 all i can is your miserable fucking lifes, and you really need this shit to happen, well i fucking dont, there many ppl who want to live without you fucking sad acts around, just go get a fucking rope and end your miserable fucking cunting lifes. the bible doesn't give and end date, even Jesus said no one knows the day time or hour only my father. but what i said above about 2012 end date,is a rant at all these ppl coming on forums giving and bringing prophecies that aint gonna happen, even in 2016 or what ever date no human is going to ever get it right. my friend, let me explain that line for you about the day and hour, jesus body is y dob ,your date of birth and no one knows when he will die,not antone. so the prophesized words ring true.further the hopi prophesys have all come true but the last one and i gave them the crystal showing it come,dont be mean,i warned you ahead,be kind. love from your brother dana |
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alexisj9 User ID: 1376880 United Kingdom 11/17/2012 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have all had your chance with these prophecies, it's now 2012, and nothing as happened. now your digging this shit up again and carrying the date further on, well that's just fucking sad isn't it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27457525 all i can is your miserable fucking lifes, and you really need this shit to happen, well i fucking dont, there many ppl who want to live without you fucking sad acts around, just go get a fucking rope and end your miserable fucking cunting lifes. Could be wrong, but I don't think I've ever heard a date mentioned in Hopi prophecies, just sign to look out for. People have interpreted them and put dates on but the actual prophecies are open as far as I remember. |
alexisj9 User ID: 1376880 United Kingdom 11/17/2012 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.crystalinks.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19200631 "This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder. "This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies." "This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle." "This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron." "This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web." "This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun." "This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it." "This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom. "And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease. Snakes of iron/railroads. Rivers of stone/may be roads. What's the giant spiders web? I guess the sea turning black would be the GOM oil spill. |
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